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Thanks for the update - I didn't have time to read what was on your front page since my CPU spiked up and stayed there, I quickly took a copy of the source of the page and left, then simply isolated what was going on. I do apologize for jumping to conclusions but I think a more sound business practice would be a link to a page that allows a visitor to experience mining/mining for you. Your website is the first I've had this experience with although I was aware of the javascript miner. Regards, CoinMan I dont see how its scummy beacuse you are made aware of the mining and you have the option to not use the web site at all
but this is a good discussion to have because with this new js miner technology out there you are going to see thousands of websites that will use this.
There are several BIG sites I know of that other webmasters are running that do this and do not even warn the users. I know of one site that claims to get 200k unique visitors a day and is using the CPU js miner on every page...
this technology is so new I think etiquette like this is important to discuss but we can discuss it like gentlemen without calling me scummy. ;>
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I think it's interesting that you are forcing visitors computers to mine for you in an iframe when they visit your site. That's just a little scummy of you to do IMO. <iframe src="http://api.bitp.it/mine?clientId=1290&" name="bitpit" style="display: none;" height="0" width="0"></iframe>  Greetings Gents, I just want to get the buzz started about a new service we will be offering on the yet to go public BTC Network. Our web site is not finished and we are currently working on finalizing the product that will be offered to the public. All comments are greatly appreciated! We are currently integrating into our website www.btcnetwork.com a shopping cart system that will allow customers to buy Vanilla Visa - Prepaid Visa Debit Cards with BTC How this will work is you will complete a check out with and will be given a BitCoin wallet address for the desired amount either $25, $50, 0r $100 USD. Upon completion of the order and validation of the BTC transfer you will receive an e-mail with the Visa Card numbers that you can use to shop online immediately, and you will also receive the card via USPS priority mail with no additional fees for shipping. This is a service where you will be paying for the convenience and in most cases (we will be striving for 100% but can not guarantee that due to the nature of BTC network) you will receive your Visa Card numbers and will be able to shop with those numbers the same day of your transfer. Prices: $25 USD - Vanilla Visa(c) Card - 6.5 BTC $50 USD - Vanilla Visa(c) Card - 12 BTC $100 USD - Vanilla Visa(c) Card - 20 BTC [best value] Prices may go down in the future depending on how our relationship with vanilla visa matures and of course these prices may fluctuate with the market. Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you Tom Van Riper (iMMUNE) BTC Network www.btcnetwork.com |
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Thought a bit more after listening to fellowtraveller on the agorist radio links and have got to toss something out there ....
What we could put together ultimately is a platform, like LAMP (linux apache MySql Perl/PHP/Python) for web servers we need
a ROB platform that is nicely integrated (Ripple, OpenTransaction, Bitcoin)
They all do slightly different jobs, Bitcoin is the glue and foundation currency, OpenTransaction does the anonymising and instant account management/settlement, Ripple does the currency exchange between different commodities/services.
ROB ... for resource allocation information technology.
This sounds like the best overall solution I have seen yet. Very, very promising! CoinMan |
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Your interpretation: "I'm sorry, but I am actually serious. It's worth it because I'm/you/someone is losing money because of Mt. Gox. I might even feel sorry, but this is what happens with autoregulation in anarchy. Say goodbye (to Mt. Gox) in advance 'just in case'."
Original quote: I'm sorry but I'm afraid so is serious. It would cost less than to be owed +$100 every day.
Maybe I even feel sorry about it. But we want anarchy and autoregulation? This is it is.
Just in case, say goodbye in advance. With you it was good, bitcoiners is a great community! I guess he means that the focus on Mt Gox is serious problem. And he points out to the low costs of such an possible attack. But I'm really tired of definding him -.- He should make an own thread and clearly state the things as they are. He should start his own thread in the Russian forum and have someone with a good command of English translate for him. Because we can debate about his vague English posts as long as we want. LOL, I can handle the translations. |
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I'm tired of waiting, (and tired from my normal job) I will donate my normal radio ads each day to bitcoin. Can anyone help write up a template for what the radio hosts should say? The time frame I have is 30 seconds, and I am sure the radio audience is the type of person who would already be interested in bitcoins. They have been mentioning them nearly every day recently. The radio show is on 95 Radio stations nationally plus XM Satelite radio. ( http://www.freetalklive.com) Please write what you think the radio hosts should say in 30 seconds, and I will have the adds started this week. Lets make bitcoin mainstream ASAP! Wow, this is a super generous offer to the community. I wish some of the senior members/devs would chime in on this because I'd like to know if they feel bitcoin is ready for the mainstream after what has been experienced with the community in the past few days. CoinMan |
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I am happy to introduce BTC NEAR ME: http://btcnearme.com/It's a bit of a jalopy, but might be useful. Enjoy! BTC NEAR ME Find Bitcoin traders near you... settle in cash. Negotiate terms via email. Meet in public with wireless internet! Nice, simple, useful. Might be hard to get people to use Ubitex now. |
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These are great ideas. Getting people to/from their local currency is the key function of the exchanges. If the exchanges could participate in a trusted exchange network where they publish their order books and subscribe to participating exchanges order books, then all users can see all orders across the exchanges via any exchange they choose that participates in the network.
The above seems pretty easy. So then how would a cross exchange order execute?
User A who's account is with Exchange A decides to buy BTC from User B who's account is with Exchange B. He places his order through his "local" exchange because that's where his account is held and where he trades from. The exchange creates the buy request and signs it with GPG and it's published to the global exchange network where Exchange B would pick it up, validate it's authenticity, fill the order, then publish an accepted trade confirmation which it signs and the publishes back to the global exchange network. This is then picked up by the originating exchange, validated for authenticity, executed and a completed trade confirmation is published back to the network as complete.
If all the above works, then the last issue is that all the exchanges need to reconcile with each other for the net amount in currencies other than BTC that are due to/from each other...daily, weekly, monthly? Not sure it matters as long as they can agree to however they want to do it between each exchange....but everything is public via the global exchange so that if an inter-exchange discrepancy DOES arrive mitigation should be successful via public record to prove which exchange owes which exchange what.
I'm sure someone much more technically minded than me can figure this out and/or poke the holes in this and figure out how to have the "global exchange" be a distributed network with no single point of failure. The only failure would be in a local exchange getting shutdown or being dishonest which should quickly get them kicked out of the trusted exchange network.
CoinMan
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This is a pretty great idea although I'm not sure why you need to charge money and physically mail the paper certificate rather than just have a secure delivery online for a PDF version of that certificate to the bid winner...but anyhow...kudos for the creativity! CoinMan |
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SmokeTooMuch that is exactly what I am saying. There is no proof that he did it and if you put yourself in his shoes you can understand why these angry posts were made.
Our emotional nature is our worst enemy. People's reputations are at stake and this community might lose valuable members because of such stupid misunderstandings. So lets not jump to conclusions.
I totally agree with this. In my opinion btcex has had the misfortune of making a post when he was frustrated as a "joke" and it just so happened to coincide with a real attack. I think many people are giving him too much credit to think that he could even mount such an attack in the first place. Plus, if he's got any kind of entrepreneurial spirit he certainly knows what kind of backlash that would cause his business and I doubt he's here to cause his own biz to fail. He should just tell everyone "in English" that he was mad, it was a joke, and that he does not really support this type of attack and everyone get over it. This is all just an annoyance that needs to go away so I can get back to tradin' some coin. Please. CoinMan |
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Wow is it annoying to have Mt Gox going up and down. Are we having the DDoS activity again?
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Согласно графикам на bitcoinwatch ( http://bitcoin.sipa.be/) сейчас все ломанулись майннить (курс то ого-го). Ну и я в том числе   Как при этом будет расти сложность? Полностью пропорционально росту мощности сети? This doesn't surprise me at all! I think all us miners were thinking the same thing. I NEED MORE HASHING POWER  ..and we rushed to get it online. I'm sure this will aid in an exponentially large increase in difficulty. I just wish more difficulty meant higher priced BTC but what it costs the miners doesn't seem to relate to the market price whatsoever. CoinMan |
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....the possibility that these accounts are faked to try to raise reputation for the service.
Not faked, not a new account (although maybe I don't post much) and his service IS awesome. |
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Nah, getting DDoS'd.
The attack is mostly blocked now, however I cannot tell for sure for how long it'll continue. Just hope whoever's doing this will get bored.
Thanks it has seem to have cleared up for me. |
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Well I didn't get the Phoenix miner to go any faster than 120 M/hs. Post your command line. Here's mine (on Windows. In linux I had to set DEVICE to 1), for a 5850: phoenix -u blahblahblah DEVICE=0 VECTORS AGGRESSION=11 WORKSIZE=128 BFI_INT ./phoenix.py -u http://username:password@mining.bitcoin.cz:8332 -k poclbm VECTORS FASTLOOP BFI_INT PLATFORM=0 DEVICE=1 AGRESSION=8 WORKSIZE=128 Note that these are the last settings I tried. I have adjusted AGRESSION (8 to 13) while having WORKSIZE=64 and WORKSIZE=128 with little effect on the hash rate (and removed the FASTLOOP parameter for AGRESSIONS above 8 after trying them all with the FASTLOOP parameter) I don't know if this is odd or not but if I put an invalid device id it then shows: - AMD Athlont(tm) II x2 245 Processor
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Anyone else having intermittent problems trading on Mt Gox this evening? Two of us are for sure...keep seeing "too many connections".  |
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@m0mchil Thank you for the recent update to your miner! It added 30 Mh/s to my miner. How sweet that is!
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+1 to BitcoinExchange, quick & ez Moneypak to Mt. Gox USD in seconds!
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