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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 20, 2016, 06:58:26 AM
What about our ETC DAO, is there any news?

There is no news. We are still waiting for the words from the DAO hackers. The fate of the ETC is determined by them.
62  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: August 20, 2016, 06:52:58 AM
much people say this because is lost money in trade
bitcoin price down lost and reduce capital money is very sad agry so say this

That is right. If many people can make profit of out the bitcoin, they will not complain. However, if they do not make many profits, they might still complain.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Top ten AltCoins on: August 20, 2016, 06:48:59 AM
I voted for Ethereum or the ETH. I think it has the biggest potential to be a good coin and it has very fast transaction speed.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Does anyone care if ICO projects have real code and real teams behind them? on: August 20, 2016, 06:47:57 AM
If a team is working, has code, has the ability to deliver, isn't working on 4 projects at once I am all ICO's as its a good way to get money in peoples hands to deliver.

I agree with that. We need good coder and programmer for the projects. They also need to be very dedicated.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 17, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
Just hold ur coins to long term guys.

Etc hás a great future coming

Only word's hold them will not change down trend.

Tell me why i should hold them? Im holding them since the price was 3,20 dollars. And dont worry i didnt invest more then i can lose. Soo now i need something better then only HOLD THEM because of great future. Give me some facts or even what will change in next mounths or years that you know about? What will change to hold them? Give me a reason to hold them.

You are right. There are not many developers supporting the ETC at the moment. And the development will cost a lot of money.
66  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: August 17, 2016, 04:31:11 PM
i think there is some people against of bitcoin they want to down bitcoin through negative news about bitcoin, because they invest their money in other currency .

That could be one reason. The other reason are the bitcoin lovers who missed the boat, so they want lower price to buy more.

Some big whales will spread bad news and push down the price, then they will buy a lot of bitcoin at low price. Then pump and dump it.
67  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 17, 2016, 04:29:53 PM
It is not an easy thing to get rich because you need to do some proper strategy and courage to be rich one day. If you think to get rich with gambling then it is not going to happen. Because I haven't heard someone did become rich with gambling unless you are going to be a stakeholder of a gambling site.

Absolutely right, because it is not like it that we seem it. When people say that buy the bitcoin because it is a easy way to get rich. No way if you have already big amount and than you invest in Bitcoins so you can say, it is easy to get rich but only for those kind of people who invest a big amount in bitcoin.
That's being realistic man, I agree with you, we should take into actions our plans and ways to become rich. We always say that we can be rich if we invest in bitcoins but if we will not risk any amount as our investment to be rich would not be realize even the price will skyrocket.
Investment is always have risk, so the risk is the way that must be taken if we want to achieve success. bitcoin investment also has a big risk, but a lot of people who put a lot of money in it, because it could benefit enormous. but of course it needs to be a strategy to minimize the risk.
Bitcoin can also be risky in future but if you know when to withdraw your profits then it can reduce some risks, as we don't know how long bitcoin will survive so holding it too long can also be risky.
thats right, if you dont want to lose money with bitcoins then you need to know when to withdraw it all, i think trading can give you big money
It can but it would not guarantee that any trader who will enter in trading bitcoin and other crypto currency will automatically earn from it. They are those who earn and also there are people who lose, this is just like gambling without house edge so it has a better chance for you to make profit if you play it well.

I very much agree with you, and the way to address it is enough knowledge about trading. Because without science or enough knowledge about trading, then we will be trading in a way that does not deserve to do. And the most basic trading is about analysis about market data

I have done some trading of bitcoin with altcoins such as Monero or Ethereum. It is quite successful so far this year.
Altcoin market is very hot and attractive at a moment and more people are interested in altcoin trading at a moment and that is the reason bitcoin is not going up.

That is right. The total trading volumes of the altcoins are more than the bitcoin and every day, there is a high rising coin.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH Foundation was basically caught trading stolen coins in exchanges on: August 17, 2016, 04:28:08 PM
When Barry declared that he bought is first altcoin with ETC then it says a lot more of how he hates ETH than the love he has for ETC. It is an act of sending the Ethereum foundation a message that there are people in the Bitcoin community that are willing to support the original chain to express that they are against rolling back, tweaking, and changing transaction histories in blockchains. I believe Charles Hoskinson is also of the same mindset when he declared and committed to his full support of ETC even he says he is in it for academic purposes.

These guys are just opportunists. Being involved with Bitcoin = negative moral authority...
To be blunt, no major high tech project in history has had sleazier players than BTC.

And ETH is clinging to it's market value by it's fingernails... because vaporware is a lottery ticket.



It is difficult to say that the Ethereum is vaporware. It has very good community support and the market cap is about $1 billion.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: RIP Litecoin on: August 15, 2016, 05:52:38 PM
He just mad because Litecoin hasn't made him rich yet... ROFL!
Patience is a virtue. Fundamentals will eventually win out. For now traders just want to PnD for profits.

LOL. It's like, what makes these guys decide a coin is dead? This coin by metrics has been a top coin for years at this point. It's like guys just wake up one morning and decide red is the new blue.

And given how hard it would be to FUD a price change into LTC, given market cap, I never get these threads.



It is possible that the litecoin price is kept low so that the big whales can accumulate more coins and pump it later.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum ? on: August 15, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
until now iam still choose bitcoin
bitcoin without ethreum still work and antoher coin is work and run in marketplaced
ethereum and another coin without bitcoin is colaps

If the bitcoin does not improve and some bitcoin users hack the bitcoin, it will be replaced by the Ethereum.

If there is not further improvement of the user experience, the bitcoin could be replaced by other coins.
you might be right, in my opinion other currencies is a huge threat for bitcoin and it might replace bitcoin in the future easily

The Ethereum could replace the bitcoin if there is no good improvement in the bitcoin. One version of the Etheruem could be a good currency.

So which is better?  It depends on what your use case.  Right now, Bitcoin is a better currency and Ethereum is a better smart contracts platform.

That is right. It seems it is wise to hold both coins But the bitcoin is more mature at present, so I will hold it more.
71  Economy / Speculation / Re: 350 USD in August on: August 15, 2016, 05:49:46 PM
Yes people who have lost their money in scam will not forget it easily as they have lost their hard earned money in it and they will prefer not to invest anytime in those sites.

People haven't actually lost money yet, because they have been given BFX tokens. They can always wait for them to be redeemed, if Bitfinex recovers. Of course, these people won't be investing additional money any time soon.

Its really hard to digest when you loose your money in such scams and if you have invested all your money then it may make you bankrupt which can affect even your family.

It would be really hard to move on when you are experiencing  such big loss because you wouldnt know  what thing would you do next. You will back to zero and start from the beginning  and the hardest part is when that money you invest  on those scams are  those money you just borrowed or loaned from others.

That is the reason I do not invest in HYIP. They are too risky and most of the them are almost certain scams.
72  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: August 15, 2016, 05:47:54 PM
bitcoin will never die imo

Yup, for bitcoin is not a living thing Lolz: v. but the heyday or the use of the bitcoin will surely change with other digital currencies are much more sophisticated and modern, but it is still very long. For we see that there are still no signs of market demand about a better currency again. Enjoy using bitcoin and will certainly get great returns

Bitcoin is the best crypto currency at a moment and it will get more developed in future holding some really great price so I don't think bitcoin will be ever dead in future.

Bitcoin is the best crypto currency at the moment. But this situation might not last long. There are many good crypto currencies are emerging.
73  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price? Who is making it? on: August 13, 2016, 08:16:07 AM
It seems that some whales are pushing the price down atm.
whats the point for the whales to push the price down? in my opinion people themselves are selling coins not only big owners of bitcoins though we cannot do anything about it
There are some whales who wish they knew how to use trading. The drop appears to me and I've wondered why someone would sell a huge quantity of coins in a market order, thereby drive the price down, and fail to get top dollar for their coins vs taking more times to liquidate them as a steady price.

The bitcoin price drop just means there are not enough funding in the crypto currency world. People are more interested in Ethereum now.
thats true, right now i am buying and holding all my ethereum in order to make some money soon

I mine the Ethereum. I keep most of the Ethereum and trade that against the bitcoin. I will also hold some bitcoin.
74  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: August 13, 2016, 08:14:28 AM
When the shorters want to make profit, they will spread bad news about the bitcoin so that price will be lower. I will buy more when the price is low.
75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: August 13, 2016, 08:12:03 AM
I believe we need to make a "Dead Bitcoin Announcements Board". This way we can have all those articles/accusations/interviews etc together.  Wink

I do not care about the comments about the "bitcoin is dead". I have bought more bitcoin because the bitcoin is cheaper due to the comments.
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77  Economy / Speculation / Re: 350 USD in August on: August 12, 2016, 10:54:29 AM
I totally disagree with you, because bitcoin going to rise up its price too much faster

Price may fall in coming days but there is no scope of falling to the price of $350 as that price is history now and we will never see that price again, from here price will only go higher.

Yeah, i really agree with you. The price of bitcoin will be decrease, but not decrease so much to $350, it's to much for me. But i hope the price of bitcoin can stable or maybe increase.

I think the bitcoin price will be stable in the next few months if there is not big news. The price will rise according to mass adoption.
78  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 12, 2016, 10:52:52 AM
Who knows, i though i know but i am still not so rich, it means that i don't know how to do this. But i really want to know and i will do this, later Grin
Well, if you have no plan to be rich then you will not become rich, to be rich is hard if you do not have a plan to follow. Maybe you can call that as a wish to become rich and you need some miracles to be rich like winning in the lottery accidentally or find a lost bag with full of money in the steet.

My plan is quite simple to get rich. I will buy some bitcoins when the price is low, and then hold most and trade some.
79  Economy / Economics / Re: Which one is good, trading or investing? on: August 12, 2016, 10:50:28 AM
Both is good, but it's can't be compared, because you getting your profit with trading just now, investing is for people who will recive their money in future.

Just remember, trading is also an investment because you put your money into it to earn some profit out of it. Then its all the same but there are lots of investment which they differ some may gain profit for a long time or in a short time basis. You can choose freely on what investment would you like just  be careful on choosing the right one.

I only trade bitcoin with good altcoins. So if I buy the Ethereum, for example, its price drops against bitcoin, but it still rises against dollar.
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: FUCK! The Bitcoin is dead again. This time for sure. on: August 12, 2016, 10:46:49 AM
What made several people join bitcoin besides the magic number of 1000 dollars, its the volatility around it, in fact that big miners has invested more and more companies are interested at bitcoin, i remember one big miner at USA besides those there are now more some big miners at China.

I heard John Mcfee is going to build 10 PH/s mining farms in the US. But after he builds it, it will be less than .5% of the total hash.
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