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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with Fiat or Crypto? on: January 15, 2020, 05:44:46 PM
Yes we can gamble with crypto so easily for this we can game online using our phone or PC so it’s good to gamble online but the problem is crypto user remain anonymous and you will not be able to that with whom you are actually gambling that’s why I prefer using crypto only to invest my money and use fiat for gambling I know it's little hard-working but enjoyable too.
I disagree with this, using fiat in gambling is too very risky in our part if that is online gambling. You know why? - just because it will be linked to your personal details through using your bank account or credit card. What is the problem of being anonymous in gambling? That was most gamblers like for the purpose of privacy. I still prefer using crypto in gambling than fiat.
Yes there are many gamblers the families of whom are not gambler and if a person is not gambler he do not like gambling because of that they know that they family members are not gamblers and they do not like gambling seeing this they like to gamble in private and they do not want that someone know about them. For them gambling with fiat was hard or impossible so the solution for them is gambling with cryptocurrencies.
62  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: January 15, 2020, 05:32:08 PM
As long as the gambling site does not have a case for its users. I'm sure the gambling site is safe to play, so there's no need to worry if you want to see the gambling site scam or not. But so far I have never found a scam gambling site.
Well many a times decent looking gambling websites comes out to be scam sites. So said most of the times ponzi sites are decent looking and also pay their customers hourly or daily until they get enough customers to exit scam them and then those sites are declared scam. So the gambler should pay due diligence before putting any money on the website.
But with the design of the casino website we cannot say that if the casino is a scam or legit as many casinos are good looking and are very legit so according to my views we have to care that when a new casino come online then we join that if not find it a scam but do not deposit larger amount in that and to check it with low amount of bets for a longer time.
63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it good to talk about big gains? on: January 14, 2020, 06:35:38 PM
but i think OP is talking about Big Gains or wins as jackpot?because there is no way we can risk our lives with 400$ winning.

if we get the Lottery jackpot then for sure we must keep silent even in our own family,just act normal first and set things first before letting them know how much you have won.
We must keep our mouth shut, many people will have an interest on the money that we are earning it could risk our life. Having a low key life even we are winning will be our most priority above all. Also, I dont want to make somebody elses feels sad because they did not as lucky as I am.
and that will lead to greediness when people keeps thinking they are not lucky as we are,so it is better shutting our mouth in this kind of situation and besides instead of telling them your story why not Make some good moves that will help them in some good ways.

Like Hosting a raffle in your place that you will pretend that the prizes are from sponsors but the truth is you will shoulder all the expenses,isn't it much better of Tipping them than telling story about your winnings?
We must not talk about our big gains. The reason behind it is more or less the same as explained earlier. Most of the people think that you are trying to show off what you have earned. It is also possible that you become a suspect of an evil eye. So to keep yourself distanced from all these, one must not indulge in such activities of sharing their victories with others.
If someone is thinking that you are doing show off and while you are not doing this then do not care for these people and do not change your life mode because of these people while your other point is logical that someone may harm you if they will see that you have a huge gain. If they are in your local area then they may rob you or if they are online then they can do hack attempts on your PC etc. While if you keep your identity hidden then there are chances that no one can harm you.
64  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use betting tips? on: January 14, 2020, 06:19:14 PM
I'm not using a betting tip subscription and will not likely to use one if they are going to charge $70 no way and if they are just going to give 50% accuracy, many will unsubscribe because that ratio is a loss ratio, why did you not name the betting tips, they will not going to sue you, because you are telling the truth and you are anonimous..
I dont want to lessen my money that is why I did not use any betting tips, but rather I should learn it by myself so that there will be no cut to my money and I will improve my strategy and skills as well. Betting tips are good especially when free , but if it has a payment I would not do that. I would more likely to read news to get ideas.

I don't think that you can get better tips if you use free services betting tips because sometimes, the paid services can give better results than free. But I believe there is a free betting tip that can serve or provide the right information, but still, that will be difficult to find those tips. That is why we need to search as much information as we can so we can choose the right teams that will have a high percentage to win.
No we cannot say that if a tipping service is a paid service then they will be legit as the scammers also come to scam for money and they give paid tips. The free service may not be very well reliable but if we know the person/trader personally or we have a longer time contact with that person and we know his identity and he gives free tip service and we know that he is expert then we can rely.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with Fiat or Crypto? on: January 14, 2020, 06:06:31 PM
Sometimes I have some trouble not being able to send money or deposit to a gambling account because the bank is always suspicious of what I'm doing and because of unknown transactions I've also been frozen by my bank for a few weeks. I prefer to buy crypto from someone first, and then I can safely and quickly deposit crypto where I can play anything I want. So it's easier for me to play in crypto, I have to say it's a great technology.

yes before the invention of crypto it was very hard for the gamblers to access the online casinos and the online casinos were also not earning enough because of these issues but after the invention of bitcoin and altcoins it because easy for everyone to play in online casinos even the citizens of those countries got access to online casinos where gambling is banned because of which online casinos earned a high income and their business flourished.
66  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery In Your Place on: January 14, 2020, 05:50:00 PM
Lol, I bet on two lotteries yesterday and try mo luck. I bought 2 tickets for a 6/49 draw, unlucky didn't get any numbers.  Smiley. Then 2 tickets for mega lotto, got only 2 numbers. Lotto is not a thing for me, it just so happen that I saw one near my place and I was surprise to see that there are no people lining to try their luck. But I wouldn't try my luck again, we all know the odds of hitting, just bought tickets to have some fun.
Betting in Lotto is not easy to win because they have billions of combination numbers and very little for you to get that. Those people who really win gambling they are very lucky because out of millions of people betting they only one win but sometimes they are two winners but the prize is still very huge. Maybe once you try again your luck to the next draw maybe your number will be the result and you win.
Only luck and nothing else can give you a winning numbers, there's no chance to estimate and assess the combinations that can bring you out the numbers that will be picked. Only those lucky bettors changed their lives after winning the jackpot.
Hard but very huge amount of money when luck hits you up and win the jackpot.

I strongly agree to this.

Because if there is a way to figure out how to win the lottery, the prizes will not be that big and they will not have any profits on conducting lottery, that is why even them, they don't know which number will win, to make lottery remain exciting and unpredictable. The chances of winning in a lottery jackpot is very low where you shouldn't expect to win in the numbers where you place your bet.

the chance is like -9/10
If the lottery in legit and in the hands of legit people in either online or physical casinos or any other place where it is conducted then there are equal chances of winning for all of the participants of the lottery while I have also saw a number of lotteries in which the authoritative persons used a number of techniques to scam the participants and to award the gift to one of the person who belong to them so that not any outer person get the reward and they collect the ticket money and do not give any reward.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the main purpose in gambling, always to make more money? on: January 14, 2020, 05:22:44 PM
Those who view gambling as a means of entertainment enjoy gambling. The purpose of making money is definitely in gambling. But playing gambling as a means of entertainment, money and income is entertainment and halls. Gambling with the sole purpose of making money can be a huge loss. When you become addicted to gambling, valuable moments of your life are lost. You will lose everything, time, money, friends. So my purpose is to find entertainment in gambling.
To some it up, don't' focus that much as you'll regret everything. There are lots of things that you can spend your time playing gambling as source of
entertainment and not source of your everyday income that will only cause you stress yourself and regret the whole time and money you spent from this activities.
Gambling can either became stress and regret for the gambler or entertainment which all depends on the gambler if the gambler is fully addicted to gambling and continue to play without any planned schedule then he will lose much of his money and the needs of the life will make him sick while if the gambler is a genius person and he will gamble for a while and with a limited money then he will feel pleasure in gambling and will not face any lose.
68  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real reasons to Why do you gamble? on: January 13, 2020, 06:51:09 PM
Everybody may gamble on different motive, some, just to catch fun, some just to make money.

We can give so many reasons why we gamble, and we can not deny that it is happening to all people who gamble because each of them will have their own purposes. We can play gambling, but if our reason for playing gambling because of making money, then that will not be easy as we thought. Gambling was created for entertainment things, and many people enjoy gambling, but we must remember that we should not risk our money.
While saying that we also cannot deny that majority of gamblers are gambling for making money they think that in gambling they will win a biggest bet which will make them millionaires and they will live a life of luxuries for lifetime. Those people who gamble for just entertainment are those who have their own businesses and who know that gambling is not a source of income but a source of entertainment.
69  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery In Your Place on: January 13, 2020, 06:35:52 PM
There used to be lotto in my country but for some weird reasons they have made it illegal in many states. Now there is a small lottery industry and even that is in severe condition as no one is interested in them.
I heard of a system called as tax lottery or something in which the government give a prize money based on the receipt number randomly selected. It increased the volume of people who paid with taxed receipts. I think governments should try something like this to increase awareness.
Yes it is a tool which many governments are adopting to increase the number of tax payers which really bring good results to the governments as people then do not deny to pay tax when they see a high priced reward in the lottery for paying the tax. Many years ago I heard about a country where people were not paying tax of their television and when the governments started the lottery to give a car in reward then majority of the people registered for paying that tax.
70  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: January 13, 2020, 06:19:20 PM
I think there is no such a game where the pure luck is only the matter, we still need gambling skill and strategy in every types of game in order for us to have high chance of winning. If we will just playing and we are basing our decisions in pure luck then it will lead to huge losses. I want to say that knowledge and skills are also important because we are the only one who can create our own luck.

Gambling skills are important where when you gamble there you can play the strategy to win, luck is not always on your side but there must be an effort to get that luck so in my opinion gambling should be relaxed and a good strategy.
Luck is always you if your gambling tactics are played.
You are right in your point of view as if a person do not have skills in gambling then they do not have to think that they will ever win in gambling. So before you want to enter in gambling better is that to get lessons from experienced gamblers from them you will learn everything very soon. While if you are unable to learn the skills of gambling or you cannot win then do not spend much of your money in gambling.
71  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the main purpose in gambling, always to make more money? on: January 13, 2020, 06:03:50 PM
Yes, it's primarily about why you and I play gambling, but it depends on one user to another.  I think they're doing it for a particular reason, because it makes no sense to decide to play without a reason. If I don't have time to spend in my life, I'm gambling, of course, because gambling isn't considered a waste of time, but it's worth the time you spent because you get something back.  The main aim of gambling is not always to make money, but other people often play if they feel stressed or exhausted because it gives them temporary relief.

Actually other people purpose to do gambling is to make money. They would love to play that is earning and at the same time entertainment. Self control when doing gambling is needed since others become greedy once they experience of winning. Indeed depends on a person how he manage when playing.
Gambling is especially made for entertainment and if someone will play for making money then it is also not bad a little but the main problem is that when a person start to gamble then they start to love gambling either for getting entertainment or for getting money so for that purpose they do not think that how much money are they spending and not even think for saving their precious time. This thing give these gamblers a lot of harm if we will gamble carefully then we will not give any harm to our money and our time.
72  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of your money only needed for gambling and others is for family on: January 13, 2020, 05:49:35 PM
Gambling is not for the people who has no enough money its only for fun and hobby dont ever use money allocated for your family then use it gamble to be able to easily multiply it but its too risky not most of the time is lucky day so gamble only if you have some extra funds to playwith if you go all in with the money for your family then you lose all then the blame is you.

Those who have exceeds money and will not effect them even if they lose it they can play as much as they want beacuse it is not going to effect them even if they lose some money . In gambling losing is easy than winning it. So better to play for fun and if any money won can be just kept aside for fun activity .

I think if somebody want to play in order to lose their money so why don’t they try some online games of gambling in which they would not spend any money, in which they will get some enjoyment. Here you have quoted that if somebody has excess of money then he is free to spend as much as he want and don’t care to lose it but here I will say that why not they start some business with that money instead of losing.
I think he is saying that if someone have excess of money they they can enjoy gambling as many people want to taste the gambling but do not have money or cannot afford the lose in it. It is not sure that anyone who will gamble will lose but there is a risk. Anyone can win or lose. It is also right that they have to start some business but along with that a little bit gambling will not cause him a lot of lose.
73  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have You Counted Or Estimate All Your Losses And.... on: January 12, 2020, 06:37:35 PM
i never estimate my losses because i know it will only turn me down,what i am concern mostly is the amount i won and that brings me positive feelings.

i know a man that writing in all his gambling activities,from losses and winnings and he tells me that it made him sick sometimes checking how much he losses while the amount of winning is very little compared to others.
Yes true once you think your loses you feel weak and turn down so its been better to us not to estimate our loses. Just gamble and have some fun so that every time you lose you don't be sad and you think it's okay because you have fun and feel happy to gamble. Don't waste time to think and estimated your loses.

Think of it as payment for your entertainment instead of thinking that you lose certain amount of money. The very reason why many people / gamblers always say use money that you are willing to spare and forget so you don't need to think about it after your game. Enjoying while your stay can be a stress reliever but calculating will add a lots of stress to yourself.
But calculating money spend on gambling is also beneficial for the gambler because if he will not calculate his spend money then he will not know that how much money he have remained for his family and it is also taught to us by the elders that always make a budget for yourself before spending on any thing and if he forget then it is better to calculate that how much he spend on any particular work.
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social experiments in the world of gambling on: January 12, 2020, 06:23:40 PM
depends on his/her history and depends on what kind of connection we have. but generally i will help him with the amount that i'm not expecting to be paid back.
There are so many factors that have to be considered before people start helping someone in the world of gambling. Definitely if you know the individual personally and know he or she is really in trouble, you will try to go even out of way for helping them because it is a social service as well. But if someone is not willing to change and is simply trying to gather money for more gambling, no one would help him.
Today another option came to my mind that if the person will want help and he is saying that he need this help because of his family and want to feed them and in this case you have doubt on him then you can can buy goods and food for his family and can send them to his home to his family. That will definitely help that person in real means and you will not worry that you helped someone in losing his money in gambling.
75  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use betting tips? on: January 12, 2020, 06:11:43 PM
From my personal experience I used, I paid about $ 70 a month, and I got a ticket every 2 days with odds 3-4, I was not satisfied, I guessed poorly (more precisely that tipser), out of 15 tickets, the hits were 7. which is very bad for that odds. I lost a lot on that, so I'm interested in your experience?

I'm not using a betting tip subscription and will not likely to use one if they are going to charge $70 no way and if they are just going to give 50% accuracy, many will unsubscribe because that ratio is a loss ratio, why did you not name the betting tips, they will not going to sue you, because you are telling the truth and you are anonimous..
Yes. These do not work most of the time .I had also done this previously but I lost all my saved money upon this. Betting tips do not work most of the time as the loss and win are totally situational and dependent on the luck. So the wise decision is to start from betting fewer amounts and then gradually moving towards casinos.
If a person do not like to get betting tips and want to play with his own mind and have knowledge and skills about gambling then your method is enough for them but there are some people who do not have mind and they are impressed with gambling then they have not to start without any guidance but there are some legit people who are giving guidance to gamblers so follow these legit people to take the start with this in the long term you will become much expert.
76  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Real reasons to Why do you gamble? on: January 12, 2020, 05:59:21 PM
~snip~
There are many entertainments that require payment nowadays, similar to gambling that involves money, so I think it's possible
^ Definitely right, just like spending bucks for buying tickets and popcorn in watching movies. How about renting a girl in a club and spend a lot of your money just for entertainment in your self and have fun. Kinda wasting money but actually you can afford it and why not.
Gambling is similar to that if you are entertained on this very well, surely you will come back and willingly to spend as long as you will have have a fun activity. Nevertheless, different people have a different reason, others have a double purpose. They gamble for fun at the same time hoping that they will earn a profit.
and this is what gamblers must learn so they dont need to chase the losses.

the only problem in gambling is if we treat this as a place where we can make money,because when you are seeking for money is more that you will lose,try this to be a fun area and you'll see how good is this.
This is the major issue. People are so unclear about the basic purpose of gambling. For majority it appears to be an easy and luck based method of making money whereas it was historically designed for fun and those who play it for fun enjoys making money as well. Those who plan to gamble juts in order to make money are the ones who usually lose great deal of money.
Actually this happens because of the older gamblers and because of the misguided advertisements of the gambling sites as when they attract people to gambling then they tell them that it is a place to earn some big money and tell them that it is very easy for every person and ask the person to bring some money to let him to play and in the start they try to win some amount for the new comer and after that the new comer try to win and mostly they lose their money.
77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it good to talk about big gains? on: January 12, 2020, 05:21:49 PM
Incase or if Im really going to win a  big or a lot of money in the gambling maybe I will tell to my family and friends about how much my winnnings but for the other people. For sure for the others they keep silent for their security which is actually good. But depends if a player win in online gambling for sure it will be anonymous but if you win traditonal gambling they have others for sure they see what you win even it's small amount of money or big. A lot of us wants to win big money in gambling but that also high risk because you can lost more money in the gamblinh if you wanted to win huge amount but depends on you if you a risk taker.
yeah some people for their security do not tell to other people about their winnings in gambling they are especially in those countries where it is banned by the states or the family members of that person do not think it is better to play gambling for him but they can tell to other gamblers in online chats or on forums to tell others how much they earn and how they get that winnings so train others.
78  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery In Your Place on: January 08, 2020, 06:27:46 PM
If you are not sure about any site then you should not use it for buying lottery because there are so many fake sites who takes money from innocent people but then they get vanish so be very careful and in my own country people including me don’t trust any lottery web sites but in my city I only saw some lower level games of buying tickets etc.

I don't trust any online lottery for local they are just 3rd party but we can buy a lottery ticket near to us and I think who manage the lottery here in my country is the government that is why every Brgy. here have near lottery outlets. I don't know how the lottery in other places works but here in my country it is hard to find which site where you can buy lottery tickets. Maybe only those far in the lottery outlet might buy tickets online I'm sure every country has a legit website that selling lottery tickets so better to ask some local FB group or local forum and maybe someone knows a legit website where you can buy lottery tickets online.
You have a more secure way that your government is managing it while there are other countries where the governments do not take interest in managing any gambling activity maybe because of religion so in that places there is a chance that some scammer sell the tickets and escape away which I have saw for a number of times in many places where not a legal authorities take interest.
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social experiments in the world of gambling on: January 08, 2020, 06:00:45 PM
If someone bet and he suffers a big loss and then goes here to ask a little help from you, are you willing to give him help?
loses gambling and he asks for our help (need money) to continue the losing bets and he hopes his money will come back (if he wins)? It seems I will think again in giving him help (money), but if it's just a suggestion I would be happy to give it.

Have you ever experienced something like that, how do you deal with this loss?
Yes, I've felt that and I've been in a position like that asking for help to my friend with the reason to recover a losing bet. In the end my friend never gave me help because of reasons for gambling.
so whatever happens when betting in gambling we must accept all the risks including a major loss that can not be recovered.
I think you agree to give money to gamblers for continuing their gambling after losing their money because you yourself a gambler and have faced that condition in the past and you have the hope that a person can earn money in gambling but it is not an sure to anyone that anyone can recover his lost money that is why many people do not give any loan to a person who want to gamble with it to recover his loses.
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lottery In Your Place on: January 08, 2020, 05:27:47 PM
In my country , lottery generally is offline and deals with fiat. Also , it is more famous among senior and retired folks as they have not much to lose and are not aware or dont have energy to play other gambling games. Lottery for them is simply game like tambola or bingo. I personally dont deal in lottery but my friend told me about few sites like lottoland.com and lotoanalyst. Check them out , not sure though.

those sites do also accept crypto or only support other payment method  ? op would be interested on it too  .  i have only tried the lottery on freebitco before but i havent experience to win yet but maybe it will depend on the number of your tickets as i only have small tickets  so the chance of winning is also slim but the usuall lotto works on picking and balling the number  . its more believable if they will only show the result in real time  and not only via randomizing sites .

Lottery in our country is more on fiat, I’m not sure if there any offline lottery available because most of the time I noticed that people in our country will visit a lottery outlet just place a bet and they use fiat currency for payment.  But if in any case there is an offline lottery then I think it is not a bad idea because you can place your bet anonymously and if you win no one will know that you won and you can securely save it in your account.
In my country also lottery is one of the famous betting they are doing every day I see many people are placing their numbers in a lottery outlet hoping to win, but I've never tried one, so maybe after trying once I will not try it again because let's be practical there is a very little chance of winning out of how many people are in my country, so instead of placing a bet I will just save the money and invest it to trading. But I guess for those who love lottery; an offline lottery will be a good choice for them.
Same here mate, lottery really does a popular gambling game in my country as well and just like you, I haven't tried it once in my life though its looks fun probably because it has a low chance of winning. I have a thought that instead of placing a bet in a lottery I could just place it in investment or other gambling games that has a higher chance of winning such as sports betting. But I will try it just for the sake of experience and if it caught my attention then I will probably consider to play it.
If anyone will gamble for money and will want to win with their skills then sports betting is best option for them but only if they are aware with sports, sports betting is not for those people who do not have interest in sports. While if we talk about the lottery then in our area there are some lotteries in which some gifts or special goods are rewarded in which the participation give more pleasure as we have the wish to win that gift.
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