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381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: In Gambling, Money is not everything on: August 27, 2017, 08:40:05 PM
What is the prime motto for your gambling.
Many people here are against considering gambling as a earning source. Without money, you will not be able to gamble.
Just for fun type of gamblers, only a demo account or a video game is more than enough.

Please share your ideas on role of money in gambling.


Gambling is not a earning source, gambling is risk, you can win but you can lose, and you need to know it, it is first thing when you play
But i think without money is not interesting, because dont give the right adrenaline Cheesy
Play without money for me is only losting time
Playing without risking anything may it be money  seems boring nowadays, there's no trill for there is no reward. But maybe a threat when in terms with friends or group who ever lose will treat cn be enjoy for sure. Usually it can be done thru online poker too.
If you are really seeking thrill, then how about walking on a rope tied between two buildings, hundred meters above the surface of the Earth. If still not enough, you can even try to ride on a bicycle over it. That will be more fun and I bet, it will give you more reward than gambling can.
382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling site closed? Why? on: August 27, 2017, 08:29:25 PM
It must be because of poor management in case of directbet it was surely going in huge loss so them shutting down can be a valid reason. For rollindice i am not sure why they are shutting down maybe they don't have thw sufficient income from it or the more players are winning high amounts on their site
Maube they are no longer earning on it, may be few customers only.  Gbling casinos were ppenty now and some offers more gamea other than dice. And with good records on systems and supports quality. Competition also maube the reason of shutting down. Who knows they might announved an ICO soon for relaunch also.
Dude, I want you to do us all a little favor. Next time when you are typing, type with open eyes! Reading your comment was a hell of a task. However, I got you. Any business is closed when the owner is suffering from loss. It is useless to beat a dead horse. Better to give up earlier before it's too late.
383  Other / Archival / Re: Have you ever won a Jackpot? on: August 27, 2017, 08:24:41 PM
Hitting a jackpot would be a dream of every gambler but not all succeed in it as you need to be super lucky to win it and you also have to bet with higher amount to win higher and honestly I don't have courage to bet with a higher amount as I don't want to loose my bitcoins in gambling as it has taken me great time and great efforts to earn the amount that I am holding today.

Well, it takes courage mixed with luck to hit the jackpot and even though I haven't hit any yet I'm hopeful I will one day. I'm not betting huge sums as well and that might be the reason because I only win small amounts.
You talk about courage but you are not willing to bet huge amount. Why?
Isn't it because the risk scares you, the thought of losing all your wealth frightens the hell out of you..
Well, you are smart, I give you that and it is better to play safe.
384  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: August 27, 2017, 08:08:21 PM
I would just withdraw it first and then probably withdraw some funds for real life or maybe just start my own gambling site if possible i have got my inspiration for all the new sites out there i have seen how much profit they were able to make in such a short period plus I'll have a high cashback system
It is good to see the both sides of a coin. You have learnt about the gambling sites that are making huge profits but you should also do a little research about the failures also. That would actually well so that you would avoid the same mistakes they had done. Business of any type has risk first get you prepared. But why am I even lecturing you when you have not won anything, for sure?
385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know whether its your lucky day? on: August 27, 2017, 08:02:41 PM
It would be my lucky day if I keep on winning.  That definitely a lucky day for me but if  I keep on losing then that would be an unlucky day.  Another moment is that when I am at my last bet and I won continously then I can say that is another luck day.
You just know this at your first move and fist result often show you “boy lucky day today” and you are trying something and you are happy it is happening and you getting money. Definitely if you are not losing continuously then that is your lucky day. You played a trick and it run, lucky day for you.
Well, concluding results just after first attempt is a little hasty. If it was the case then the idiom "blessing in disguise" must be joke. Future is always unpredictable. I am not saying to keep on trying even if you have lost an ample amount, I am just clarifying the fact that no one can tell what's coming.
386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can you determine whether you are addicted to gambling? on: August 27, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
Very simple I think. When you can not stop gambling when you contantly lose money and when you try to win this money back not matter what it costs. And if you risk things that will destroy your life. Once I read a story of a family father who started to gamble with small amounts. It ended that he lend the house and all the family savings to be able to continuing gambling after he had a unluck streak. He lost all. House, savings and family. He did suicide later.
Addiction is a whole different level than trying to recover your losses. If someone is addicted, he will be coming back for gambling even if he has won a good amount in it. When somebody is suffering from addiction, he does not care about his destruction as the person is totally out of his control.
387  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: August 27, 2017, 07:50:11 PM
How a daily limit will prevent a gambler not to come back even he is losing every single bet ? Limiting gambling activity will be helpful only for the day as next day they will come with their limit reset.

The plans to prevent getting back to gambling must be approached in psychological way because it is very much similar to quitting gambling. When a gambler is not frequenting to come back then most probably he will get chances to leave off gambling completely.
Yes we have always the thinking that.we want to earn more than what we are expecting and in that way we are able to create our mind set that we need to keeps on gambling and come back to it frequently. It can be one of the reason and another one is the amount that we can get thru it .by playing it.
Yeah its human nature to become greedy ,
Prople can't blame themselves , as gambling will hook you to be the person who looks so bad like greedy ,
I know its hard to reject the desire to not gamble again ,
Your brain always force you to play again due an addiction.
If the reason why we come back is because of greediness then I am sure we will keep losing, when we are greedy we do not have a limit of winning and more more in losing as we never stop even if we are losing so hard as long as we still have the bankroll available to play.
An addiction and greedy both is the perfect way to make you broke ,
So beware of that two , you will never have fun if you following it ,
I mean you should looking for a way to prevent you become greedy and addicted!
The huge winning with simple way always make you hooked.

Just don't get hooked and addicted to it. Usually people get addicted to things which they always do regularly - with gambling, when people loses quite some of money, the emotion is so strong to play again to chase that loses but actually most of the time ends up of losing more and more and in the process getting addicted to it.
I would really agree with your opinion , the more often you play the more vulnerable you are ,
Treat gambling like you will do it for once in your whole life ,
Don't be naive , always think about the negative impacts ,
You maybe won't feel have to come back to gamble.
Staying away from gambling is just simple in words. In reality, if someone has turned into a gambler, it is not that easy. People not only find fun or profit in it, some think of it as a cure to their pains. What about them. They will always gamble in order to get a temporary state of peace.
388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you Panic? on: August 26, 2017, 10:13:52 PM
Well, I haven't done any sell yet but this thread has open my eyes on the potential risk of being too emotional specially seeing a down trend of the market price. I will keep all the advise here in my mind and I hope that I will not do anything stupid when it comes to selling. Its really hard to control our emotions, but I will try to keep it check.

There's a big risk in crypto currencies and if you have a weak feeling or heart you'll feeling sorry about it. And when I panic, I usually almost sell all my stash, all the coins and my main coin which is bitcoin. That's why I hate that feeling when after selling those coins, there's a 50%++ increase and I really regret.
There is always risk in trade because you never get to know what all is happening next. Sometimes you are waiting for a high up in price and suddenly there is a plunge and you are heart-fell on it. You have to control your emotions even if it is a matter of profit or loss but yes its difficult especially in loss when you sell and next day it goes like 20%+
389  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade or Hodling on: August 26, 2017, 10:08:44 PM
Daytrading is more fun than just HODLing. You will get more knowledge about cryptoworld when you trading, but you get nothing when you hodling. But if you don't want to take risk, just hodling. Tongue Tongue
If you are a newbie then hodling is not good for you because you have to invest and get something out of it. Newcomers must take risk at start so they could do learn from it how to works in bad and good. So you are a newcomer I trade, don’t hodl just buy and sell and invest and do mistakes. Get some fruits out of that mistakes. But yes hodl if you are not a new trader, hodl for a rise in price and then make a hit, sell and enjoy
390  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: give me some tips about trading?? on: August 26, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
hi I am new here..So I am start a trading in different market place.. can you give some tips about trading.now which exchanger is best for trading?
Since you are a newbie,you should start trading with only a small amount so that the risk would also be low.First analyze the altcoin market and read the ANN thread of those coins in which you are going to invest,see its marketcap,who bigshots have invested in it and by this way,you would be able to find the most under valued coin so that you could get huge profits by investing in it.Also follow the rule,"Don't put all your eggs in one basket"Diversify your investment by investing in two or three coins so that risk of losing would be low.Don't get panic under any condition.Don't bindly follow the market and FUD and don't become weak hands by losing your coins in to the hands of big whales.
Yes right information about coins. How they are used in trades, how their prices get high, how to make them hold, how to sell, how to buy them. Prior information about the coins and then patience is there to make things run good. If you lose patience in start then that will not be going to help you stand in trade furthermore. Try to get easy with risk and losses.
391  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best trading site now? on: August 25, 2017, 10:56:58 PM
yes. Now the polo is the best place for trading. quick response. Safe for beginner traders. Many coins that can be traded polo. Many new coins emerge. Polo always select the new coin that will enter. Polo is the best at the moment
That is amazing dude! Bittrex is really awesome. The interface they give to clients and especially the newcomers is amazing. Bitcoins are easy to operate but still the newcomer has many problems of starting it in trading. So Bittrex is so good in this regard of giving a good, easy and practical environment to users.
392  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is the best coin to buy today? on: August 25, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
I think when it comes to the best coin, I would say Bitcoin without any doubt because I believe that Bitcoin is far undervalued at this moment. The factors like strong potential, world's perception and media attention are helping Bitcoin to grow and I think we still have a long way to go in terms of user base, price and even infrastructure point of view. If someone is willing to invest in a single best coin then I would recommend him Bitcoin. However, it is strongly recommended to do your own research before taking any decision.
That’s the spirit: D yes if you want to buy coin and you want it to yield you more and more profit doesn’t go else than BTC. It definitely gives you more profit from average investment in shorter time may be depending upon market charts but it does yield fruit cakes.
393  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: August 25, 2017, 10:02:54 PM
Just enjoy life. Earning bitcoins does not end with just trading you can still make it as a sideline like joining signature campaigns and and white paper's or Ann , I think that you also have a day work so its not a problem for you if you stop trading plus you already have enough money so just have bonding with your family in the meantime.
Yes, there is nothing to take on heart if you have quit trading. There are many other easy and safe ways of earning bitcoins. If you are doing job, it is highly recommendable to avoid trading and simply be patient with the bitcoins you have. Sell them off when prices are high and enjoy the profit.
It really depends in a person if he are wanting to quit or not, our time is not the same as others, skills and money we have many things to consider. If you think trading is not right for you then find some or like you said just hold some amounts of bitcoins and wait for it to become like a gold price in just a matter of years.
If you quit trading that’s not problem! If you don’t have interest now that is okay but as said here buy some coins and save them for a long time and whenever you just see price is high, sell them. If you just quit because of loss you had then I think trader must not be emotional enough in this regard. You have to bear the loss with profit too.
394  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: August 25, 2017, 09:56:24 PM
Well it might be necessary to divide your salary you can engage yourself in extra jobs online just to earn bitcoin like signature campaigns and other services with the aim of investing every bitcoin if you can do this successfully for a year I can assure that you must have saved enough bitcoin while you spend your salary on other expenses.
That is better approach in dividing salary. You must divide your salary but start working online and as just said start signature campaigns. These will give you enough money at end of year to start investing properly in parallel to your salary that will be spent on your daily expenditures.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [ROC] RasputinOnline: The FIRST ICO for Adult Entertainment on: August 23, 2017, 04:19:15 AM
whats the minimum deposit for dogecoin for the ico?

The minimum purchase is 1 token which is $2.75.  We accept payment in 13 different digital currencies including Bitcoin Cash and also bank wire transfer. We also have our own wallet that we have developed which is a fully functioning Ethereum wallet as well as the ROC token wallet.

Please visit our Phase 1 demonstration which is broadcasting live in HD right by following the link from our ICO page

https://ico.rasputinonline.com

Join our Slack Channel

https://rasputinonline.slack.com/join/shared_invite/MjE3NDQ4MzEyMTQ1LTE1MDEwODI3NjgtOTExZjYzODlhNw

If you have missed any of the events in our live broadcast studio, you can see pictures and updates on our Slack and also our Facebook page

https://www.facebook.com/rasputinonline


I want to know that have you started to use the token/coin in the phase 1 of your website? If you have started that then it will be a great news for us as from now everyone will know the value of the token and on the exchanges the price of it will increase. If you have started then I will go for invest more in your token.
I think for the coin there is currently ICO is started that is why they may not have started the coin for their website and I think if the ICO will be finished then they will use that coin in their website. By the way you have to invest as the price will increase because the demand of the coin will be higher.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Whoever came up with bcash was a genius! on: August 23, 2017, 04:02:51 AM
There is one major downside I can think of it know - Bitcoin Cash was created out of thin air, it is nothing more than a copy of Bitcoin blockchain.
Apart from obvious confusion it created, this move also brings an interesting question.
If split happened once - then what will prevent bitcoin network to split again in the future, for example during another scaling upgrade?

You can decide to split the blockchain today. What matters is if there are enough people to support your move. Bitcoin Cash created a fork on the issue of scaling, and it had considerable support amongst the community. You cannot expect this to repeatedly happen.
Since when the copycats have been starting to earn the title "genius"! Time to leave this planet really! Praising is one thing but this is actually more than enough. Cheaters are just Cheaters and bitcoin cash is just a pathetic copy of Bitcoins. Sorry to say dude, but BCC is trash when compared with digital gold.
397  Other / Off-topic / Re: Job Vs Bitcoin on: August 23, 2017, 03:58:53 AM
Hi, I was wondering if I should quit my job and focus more on bitcoins? Because I think it might get me even richer without a job?  Grin

In my opinion you should not quit on your job,Make bitcoin as your partime because it will make you richer when you do that.If you have higher purpose in bitcoin and you are having good position thats the time you should quit your job,but if bitcoin is not enough to do what you want or to increase your financial status you should focus more on your job.
I also don't recommend quitting job. If you find it tedious to deal with job and bitcoins simultaneously, then it is better to come up with a working schedule. Earn money from job, invest in bitcoins and then do trading in bitcoins. Even if you keep on saving bitcoins, it will surely pay for itself in future.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin (BTC) be killed by BCC soon? on: August 22, 2017, 09:38:02 PM
what do you mean about kill BCC?
BCC just shit coin i dont knwo why many people strongly believe in this coin. Mine is very difficult, I'm sure without being killed one day will die BCC  Roll Eyes

from Antpool twitter today:
"AntPool has already launched BCC mining pool for miners.
We will launch a smart BTC mining service that switch from BTC to BCC automatic."

AntPool is the biggest miner for Bitcoin.

[https://twitter.com/AntPoolBITMAIN/status/899543208106926080](https://twitter.com/AntPoolBITMAIN/status/899543208106926080)

BTC can stop working if the miners are moving to BCC for profitability. Which is happening right now.
BTC will not disappear but it will become unusable and technically dead.


Do you think that all the miners will leave BTC and do you really think that people won’t take it as chance and we will have new miners for BTC? If in Microsoft, somebody leaves for Apple, I am sure thousands are ready to take that one seat. Let them go and old ones will be replaced with new ones. BCC cannot even defeat BTC in its dreams.
399  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price manipulation legal? on: August 22, 2017, 09:34:14 PM
I read on a site http://mandactif.com that in many cases the manipulation of bitcoin trades is not illegal. Is this true?

Some countries just don`t consider bitcoin as a currency or asset.Therefore the price manipulation of bitcoin or all the other cryptocurrencies is not covered by those countries legislation,which means that it isn`t illegal.
There`s no penalty if some exchange platforms manipulate btc and altcoin prices.
The good news is that more and more countries accept bitcoin and consider it a digital currency or asset like all the fiat currencies and real assets.This prodives come protection against scams.
Thing that is not covered in legislation of country is not legal but its neither illegal. Until any solid actions taken into account for making that thing legal or not, anybody can deal with that thing. As price manipulation is concerned, yes it is not illegal in many countries as more of countries are accepting bitcoins as currency as said.
400  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's The Minimum Investment? on: August 22, 2017, 09:21:02 PM
If you're looking to make any sort of profit from cryptocurrency and you're just starting out, what do you think is the minimum starting investment you ought to put into it?

Yes, I know "you should only put in what you're willing to lose" but surely there should be a barest minimum, right?

EDIT: If you don't mind sharing, how much did you start with?
nothing minimum, it's all depends on what you have to do the invesment, more invesment you do, more profit you gain Grin
The better thing to answer your question! Minimum for everyone is different. You trade as much as you can afford to loss in start. It totally depends on you how much you can risk at and how much you can’t as starter. So determine that middle amount and trading.
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