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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 15, 2018, 03:56:10 PM
Sure you want to take me on with double standards and contradictions?  Huh

Earlier this year Bittrex decided to delist Gulden. (source: the open Gulden slack) The Gulden Team (Rijk) negotiated with Bittrex not to do that

Are you still sure Rich, that Rijk is not able to have Bittrex take Gulden off their exchange?

Bittrex didn't delist Gulden, it deactivated Gulden due to trouble with the blockchain/hack. This is also the reason they now have 200 confirmations on Gulden.


the deactivation was due to trouble with the blockchain (it was not a hack, nice try)



look like you forgot to change accounts again

Nah, just looks like you are a noob that doesn’t comprehend the way quotes on this message board work. But that’s ok, you’ll learn soon enough.  Kiss
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 15, 2018, 11:39:26 AM
Sure you want to take me on with double standards and contradictions?  Huh

Earlier this year Bittrex decided to delist Gulden. (source: the open Gulden slack) The Gulden Team (Rijk) negotiated with Bittrex not to do that

Are you still sure Rich, that Rijk is not able to have Bittrex take Gulden off their exchange?

Bittrex didn't delist Gulden, it deactivated Gulden due to trouble with the blockchain/hack. This is also the reason they now have 200 confirmations on Gulden.


the deactivation was due to trouble with the blockchain (it was not a hack, nice try)

63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 15, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
Earlier this year Bittrex decided to delist Gulden. (source: the open Gulden slack) The Gulden Team (Rijk) negotiated with Bittrex not to do that

Are you still sure Rich, that Rijk is not able to have Bittrex take Gulden off their exchange?

Bittrex didn't delist Gulden, it deactivated Gulden due to trouble with the blockchain/hack. This is also the reason they now have 200 confirmations on Gulden.

provide proof of a hack or retract your statement. you really are a complete piece of shit
[edit] bittrex already said they set lots of cryptos to high confirms because of crypto51.app so you proven liar once again

I only said it was NOT delisted, but ONLY deactivated due to trouble with the blockchain (/hack). Show me the proof it was delisted by Bittrex (and not deactivated) and I will retract the word hack.

It's true I'm a piece of shit btw, I also don't care. I just care about getting false fake news statements by Gulden fanboys corrected.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 15, 2018, 08:45:35 AM
Earlier this year Bittrex decided to delist Gulden. (source: the open Gulden slack) The Gulden Team (Rijk) negotiated with Bittrex not to do that

Are you still sure Rich, that Rijk is not able to have Bittrex take Gulden off their exchange?

Bittrex didn't delist Gulden, it deactivated Gulden due to trouble with the blockchain/hack. This is also the reason they now have 200 confirmations on Gulden.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 15, 2018, 06:59:35 AM
It is clear, Rijk Plasman wants to get away from Bittrex as witnessed by this statement, made in the uncensord Guldencommunity Slack channel.

"Yes, my plan is absolutely go away from Bittrex, I think I've been clear about that too. I am now in the process of finding a solution for people outside the EU, and that will not be too long. After that, it is arranged in a minute."

And on the question "why a poll if you already want to go from Bittrex", Rijk said there:

"I wanted to get a picture of the counter-arguments. The only counter argument I take seriously is 'I really cannot buy or sell without bittrex', so Gulden lovers outside the EU. Even though there are very few of them, I do arrange something for them. The rest is all standard limited crypto thinking "buy the Chinese, whales, mcafee", which is nonsense. I've never listened to that before and it's a mystery to me what those people still do at Gulden.


I contacted bittrex straight away after I read the FuD on this forums.

Bittrex-julian told me they won't remove Gulden because of the amount of Gulden traders they have. He said Bittrex have a mandate to service their customers as a priority and since crypto is decentralized not even the development teams can tell them what to do.

The FuD about a bittrex removal can STOP, it's not going to happen!!!!

Bittrex removing is not going to happen no matter what Rijk says and wants.  He is luckily not the boss over Bittrex.

Rijk is a little bit like Trump.  Every time you think : " Now we have seen the worse " he comes up with another bad thing.  Unbelievable what a narcist dictator  Roll Eyes

Rijk can't ask Bittrex to remove Gulden, that's true, he can however force them to drop Gulden by honestly telling them he took money from private citizens in the form of shares to fund his development. That is the no.1 red flag for Bittrex today. They have to comply with SEC rulings. It happened to many other coins too like Darcrus and Bitshares.

Also, he is trying to convince everyone that 95% of all traffic to Gulden.com and app-downloads come from within EU (85% of it from The Netherlands). He therefor claims there is no problem delisting from Bittrex.

To me this only shows the opposite, it means Gulden indeed is only known to a very small inner circle of mostly Dutch people. Not because they are the only ones interested in Gulden, but they are the only ones aware of Gulden! It also shows the 150k users most likely don't exist. The entire project is a marketing nightmare and will only get properly valued once Rijk allows massive (well funded) promotion of it outside his heavily closed community.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 14, 2018, 07:55:26 PM
It is clear, Rijk Plasman wants to get away from Bittrex as witnessed by this statement, made in the uncensord Guldencommunity Slack channel.

"Yes, my plan is absolutely go away from Bittrex, I think I've been clear about that too. I am now in the process of finding a solution for people outside the EU, and that will not be too long. After that, it is arranged in a minute."

And on the question "why a poll if you already want to go from Bittrex", Rijk said there:

"I wanted to get a picture of the counter-arguments. The only counter argument I take seriously is 'I really cannot buy or sell without bittrex', so Gulden lovers outside the EU. Even though there are very few of them, I do arrange something for them. The rest is all standard limited crypto thinking "buy the Chinese, whales, mcafee", which is nonsense. I've never listened to that before and it's a mystery to me what those people still do at Gulden.


So let me remind you again:

It looks to be a casual poll to see what the community thinks about the btc pairing. BTC pairings aren't going anywhere because you can't have them removed, the poll highlights to the community why the Gulden price is going down and that is because btc price is going down.

Nothing Rijk does is casual, there's always a plan that HAS to be carried out. This poll is simply a ramp-up to a decision he already made.

He want's to detach from BTC all together. Been saying that for years already. I already informed you guys that he and his "holmaat" Roel (Nocks) need total control and they need it fast (taxes). So if BTC pairings are dropped, who controls the entire market? Right Nocks (Roel and Rijk).

Even the master fanboy Remco (KrakenXiv) Katz agrees with me on this:



I think we are going to lose the BTC pairing on Bittrex. Rijk and his associates have made up their mind, and are now trying to brainwash the masses. They openly blame Bitcoin for the pricedrop on their official Facebook page.

Can we make a statement about not wanting to leave Bittrex by putting massive walls on either exchange?


From facebook
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Why don't I answer that? For two reasons. Guilder is a decentralised project, there is no boss, no admin, no institute that determines the price.

They do not market anything but they post things on Facebook where the most people voted against on Slack but no you are not the boss  Roll Eyes

Malcolm and a lot of others were against but no lets post it on Facebook to create some more disturbance on the market
Because of talking of that delisting maybe a lot of people dump in advance.

I know when a coins get delisted i almost alway sell all my coins because i do not want to have an account on every exchange there is.

If Gulden gets delisted and a lot of whales/big investors starts dumping Gulden then it will go down hard.  If there is another 25 Million Gulden dumped on the market the price will go to .....

And then he goes on and explains into exact detail why he thinks BTC and Bittrex are the reason for low prices. When oh when are people in here finally going to grasp the reality behind Rijk's true motivations? I have seen the signs over four years ago already!  Roll Eyes

The only reason only a few people outside the Netherlands (EU) are involved in Gulden is not Bittrex, it's the fact they just never heard of it. Why? M A R K E T I N G !!!! <-- The lack of that!!
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 12, 2018, 05:42:53 PM
yes he wait all this time through high prices without selling so that he can exit when price at lowest , this is how you do exit scam, what master at exit scamming he is...
Do the people here even stop to read the nonsense they write before posting , I dont think so because if you did you would see  how pathetic and stupid you sound?
you will never understand rijk because  you think he is like you so you keep thinking he act liek you like scummy scammers but he is not. he might be wrong time will tell, you might disagree with what he does , that fine, but stop acting like child about it. one thing is clear right or wrong he has best intentions for gulden which is more then the people here can say

Do yourself a favor and let go of Rijks inside pocket for a change. He cashed several millions already with the BTC he got from the "shares". Also sold over 4 million NLG at the 12k sat peak through Nocks and got repaid in BTC. He already has € 4mm+ in his private account already! See through the crystal meth he has put you on and become a free mind again! I truly wish that for you!

even if that was true (not saying it is, not saying it isnt because i dont know) somebody here saying this is the exit scam is a moron. He sits on millions of Gulden and is going to push the price all the way down to 0.03 and then exit. I mean how stupid can people get. It is not an exit scam. I think Rijk seriously thinks Gulden is better off not being listed on an exchange like Bittrex. It is an assumption. But he seriously believes it.

Somebody here mentioned: did a coin ever get succesfully delisted: No. No other coin has probably ever asked to get removed off an exchange. Coins have been removed from Bittrex but it wasnt the coins choice it was Bittrex' decision

This is true, he would be a complete retard if he exit scammed at these prices.

The exit scam has already taken place when he cashed out 650 BTC on the shares and another 400+ BTC through Nocks. Losing BTC pairings means he regains full control over the market again with Nocks. This means he can manipulate it with his 60mm stack on one side and Millions in € on the other side. Even by doing fractional reserve banking in the Nocks database. Stop drinking the coolaid and give yourself some time to see the truth.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 12, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
yes he wait all this time through high prices without selling so that he can exit when price at lowest , this is how you do exit scam, what master at exit scamming he is...
Do the people here even stop to read the nonsense they write before posting , I dont think so because if you did you would see  how pathetic and stupid you sound?
you will never understand rijk because  you think he is like you so you keep thinking he act liek you like scummy scammers but he is not. he might be wrong time will tell, you might disagree with what he does , that fine, but stop acting like child about it. one thing is clear right or wrong he has best intentions for gulden which is more then the people here can say

Do yourself a favor and let go of Rijks inside pocket for a change. He cashed several millions already with the BTC he got from the "shares". Also sold over 4 million NLG at the 12k sat peak through Nocks and got repaid in BTC. He already has € 4mm+ in his private account already! See through the crystal meth he has put you on and become a free mind again! I truly wish that for you!
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 12, 2018, 01:48:01 PM
I think we are going to lose the BTC pairing on Bittrex. Rijk and his associates have made up their mind, and are now trying to brainwash the masses. They openly blame Bitcoin for the pricedrop on their official Facebook page.

Can we make a statement about not wanting to leave Bittrex by putting massive walls on either exchange?


From facebook
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Why don't I answer that? For two reasons. Guilder is a decentralised project, there is no boss, no admin, no institute that determines the price.

They do not market anything but they post things on Facebook where the most people voted against on Slack but no you are not the boss  Roll Eyes

Malcolm and a lot of others were against but no lets post it on Facebook to create some more disturbance on the market
Because of talking of that delisting maybe a lot of people dump in advance.

I know when a coins get delisted i almost alway sell all my coins because i do not want to have an account on every exchange there is.

If Gulden gets delisted and a lot of whales/big investors starts dumping Gulden then it will go down hard.  If there is another 25 Million Gulden dumped on the market the price will go to .....

And then he goes on and explains into exact detail why he thinks BTC and Bittrex are the reason for low prices. When oh when are people in here finally going to grasp the reality behind Rijk's true motivations? I have seen the signs over four years ago already!  Roll Eyes
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 12, 2018, 08:25:31 AM

The community is poor, haven't seen any reason to suggest any whales exist on Nocks. SuperOrca buy to 1420 over a week ago was not considered a large purchase by whale standards but Nocks traders could only look in despair. I bet this was going through their minds. "Holy fuck check bittrex, I wish I had sell orders on that exchange".

The dev team wanting to remove the rich traders from the community would not do Gulden any good.

Whales can't pull the trigger on this coin because we can't do it on Nocks. The dev team must get their heads out their asses and come back to reality.


I am trying to understand what is going on here but why can't whales pull the trigger on this coin?  Because you cannot buy enough on Nocks?

If you have 5 Whales who can buy for 100k each you have 500k euro and with 500k you can buy up to over 0,36 cents now and you would get so that should not be a problem  i guess

If you do it on you own with 100k you can buy up to 0,1169 and that is 2079 satoshi

But to buy to 2000 sat on Bittrex you need 35 BTC and that is about 200k

So for 300k you can push it over 0,11 cent on both sides is that an option?

Maybe better and less riskier to make a buy order of 5 btc to 750 sat then you receive 2,3 BTC in Gulden and have a buying wall of 2,7 BTC on 750 and if it never goes down you have @ least 175.000 x (750-710) + 130.000 x (750-734) = 0.1 BTC profit on 5 BTC investment so like 2%   But if goes up to 800sat or 1000sat or 2000sat you have much more offcourse if you HODL

Then you only have to put like a 20k buy order on 0.0420 on Nocks to create a buying wall there also

Is this whale thinking or is it peanut thinking and why  Grin

Trouble is, whales are smarter than buying up markets to create a self fulfilling prophecy. Next to that, they take into serious consideration the fact that this project is heisted by a totalitarian narcissist ego-tripper that sees it all as his own personal cash cow and social science project. They rather invest in scams that give good ROI than this loony tunes charade.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 09, 2018, 07:37:56 AM
Hope you have a good shrink   Grin

@Rich P.  First we had our discussions and now we are seen as the same.  Strange world  Cheesy

It must be my Ghandinization, perhaps they can see the difference again if I go back to Simon Wiesenthal  Grin
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 08, 2018, 08:31:29 PM
Now post the quote by Remco saying he is for getting of Bittrex once Nocks has USD/GBP pairing

Not taking orders from anyone, sorry. But your'e free to post it yourself.

No thanks. I will just keep pointing out that you guys are only posting the parts you like. Now login back to your Morbs account (you made a little mistake this afternoon when you thought you were logged in as Morbs to reply to me but was logged in as Rich)


Haha, this thing is truly getting to you isn't it?  Grin
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 08, 2018, 08:26:42 PM
Now post the quote by Remco saying he is for getting of Bittrex once Nocks has USD/GBP pairing

Not taking orders from anyone, sorry. But you are free to post it yourself.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 08, 2018, 08:22:12 PM
Once again, Remco stated he was for the idea, once Nocks would have Usd pairing. Tell the whole story or don’t tell the story at all.

75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 08, 2018, 05:53:34 PM
If you would have posted the whole conversation you could have read that Remco agrees with Rijk, but only after Nocks has USD/GBP pairing







76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 08, 2018, 05:45:35 PM
It looks to be a casual poll to see what the community thinks about the btc pairing. BTC pairings aren't going anywhere because you can't have them removed, the poll highlights to the community why the Gulden price is going down and that is because btc price is going down.

Nothing Rijk does is casual, there's always a plan that HAS to be carried out. This poll is simply a ramp-up to a decision he already made.

He want's to detach from BTC all together. Been saying that for years already. I already informed you guys that he and his "holmaat" Roel (Nocks) need total control and they need it fast (taxes). So if BTC pairings are dropped, who controls the entire market? Right Nocks (Roel and Rijk).

Even the master fanboy Remco (KrakenXiv) Katz agrees with me on this:

77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 06, 2018, 06:55:04 AM
Guess who is going to be dumping a load of Gulden on the next pump to be able to pay his taxes?

You? it is a rather safe bet that the guy running a successful project for over four years, who has held the premine through the high without dumping is not suddenly about to dump. while the anonymous asshole who spends his life slandering people on a forum and frequently and openly admits to dumping will continue to dump.
give it up you arent going to get control of the premine no matter how much you cry about iyt on this forum, everyone sees through your crap about caring for gulden but just not liking rijk your motives are quite clear

Great, another suck puppet account made by a Gulden fan. FYI, Rijk has been selling out premine for years already. How do you think he got from 170mm to 60mm?? Oh that's right, by setting up his "shares" scheme! Here it is, again in plain sight:



It says: "What do you meanly funds paid for by the community? That has never been the case, if you mean shares, that was simply selling Gulden for BTC"
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 06, 2018, 06:28:48 AM
And before you take the poorly translated version out of context by stating it's only in his possession, he never said it's his, he answered this right after Lean Luc asked a specific question about it:



It says: "Like I said already above, the premine is mine, has been since day 1. Gulden.com BV has nothing to do with it, that is a company with a profit model I invested in"

This particular phrase can become quite interesting to the Dutch taxing authority since, by Dutch law you have to pay taxes on all your possessions on January 1. Let's see how that plays out:



So he had 70mm Gulden then. That's $ 0.24 x 70,000,000 = $ 16,800,000,-!!
Since he also clearly stated he is professionally involved in Gulden, that amount is seen as income!

Guess who is going to be (or already has been) dumping a load of Gulden on the next pump to be able to pay his taxes?

Now I also get it why he is getting more opened up to media and marketing. He needs Gulden to pump before April 2019!
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 06, 2018, 06:18:41 AM
So there we have it, written in stone. Rijk has always seen the premine to be his private possession. Now there is no doubt anymore folks. You can say whatever you like about him being visible and known publicly, he still is a founder of a coin that has a huge premine he considers his own personal cashcow to do as he pleases. He just does it in plain sight.

So all of you have been pouring your hard earned cash into the Gulden ecosystem, so Rijk can cash out his fat 100mm+ stack he got for absolutely nothing on top of the 650BTC he took with shares.

Ask yourself this, if you would have known he would take the premine as a private fund from the start, would you have taken this serious? No you would not! Instead he lied about it for years (hand out 100G to each citizen, use the premine as a community fund to create awareness, put premine in a community fund to pay for development) and slowly lured you into his private equity trap!

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Alright. First of all I realise that this information used to be easy to find, but nowadays it is not, so I added it to the specifications at dev.gulden.com (probably after refresh visible).

Premine in 2014: 170 million
Premine (mostly since 2016) in circulation: 110 million
Premine in my possession: 60 million

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Why a premine, then?
As some of you may have made clear, I'm not one of the 'crypto rules'. I do not have the large 'code' with do's and don'ts conceived by self-declared experts in my closet. For me, the premine meant something else: financial freedom. Financial freedom gives you the opportunity to be independent and to be able to do what you really like. To follow your vision. It is probably a dream for many for many reasons. What would you do if you had enough money? Everyone has a different answer to that. My answer is simple and I think I don't even have to give it, because I have shown it for the last 4 years.
In the first two years of Gulden, there was no question of financial freedom, because simply the value of Gulden (which started at 0) in those years was around 0.0015 cents. Also the value of Bitcoin was very different then, I don't want to talk about it further, because it's private, but I already came into contact with Bitcoin in 2011. I had a full-time job and when I noticed that this full-time job was at the expense of Gulden I stopped in mid-2017, to focus 100% on Gulden.

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So what about the premine?
This is no different from previous years. This is in my possession.
Feel free to ask questions, I will try to answer them as best I can, unless they really come into the prives sphere.
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [NLG] The great Gulden thread on: August 04, 2018, 07:44:31 AM
I was told yesterday about this coin from a friend at work. I have been following crypto news for over a year a never heard about Gulden. My friend was enthusiastic about witnessing so I came to check it out.

My first experience with this coin has been great, the wallets are good and I plan to setup a witness this weekend.

Can I have my wallet offline like peercoin and still earn Gulden?

This!

M A R K E T I N G!!!

p.s. @BrettRoux, No, you have to have your wallet online 24/7 to witness.
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