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61  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Who ordered batch #3 Avalon ? on: March 26, 2013, 04:49:36 PM
so many people clicked order but did not pay and make order number jump like crazy. It will be nice to have a list of buyer that actually paid for it and how many unit actually sold
62  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Who ordered batch #3 Avalon ? on: March 26, 2013, 04:39:31 PM
can some one start a list of all Avalon batch 3 buyer and order number and date paid ?
63  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Don't forget: There will probably be further batches from Avalon on: March 25, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
most likely after batch 3 they will built their own mining farm , not selling batch 4.
64  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 24, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
That $20K ebay auction for a batch #2 preorder probably got their attention.

But, that's for a batch #2 head start, not a 600-units-later batch #3 item.


that ebay auction is fake, bidder identity hidden, seller is pumping his own auction or get help from his friend, ant, uncle, grandma
65  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL SC Pre-Order Information on: March 24, 2013, 03:35:19 PM
long time viewer here on forum and I just recently register,
please add my order


order # 8008 
paid Sept 13 2012
5  Single SC
66  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] BFL Preorder Single SC on: March 24, 2013, 02:39:21 AM
please show a copy of email confirmation from BFL with a date on it. I doubt it was Dec
67  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 21, 2013, 03:33:24 AM
it seem that BFL is getting closer to get their chip finalized.

https://twitter.com/BFL_News


potential buyer need to consider if BFL start shipping in next few week or buying a five grand avalon batch 3 that will arrive in June.
68  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
very well said

like I said earlier,  88 coin and unit in stock READY to ship = fair deal

five grand and who know when will you get a shipping tracking number will not gonna fly

I can only +1 this.


reading over this I am thinking of one idea that avalon team actually can use.

Offer 10 units at 100 BTC coin that GUARANTY  shipping in 3 days. Even bypass all batch 1 and batch 2 buyer that are still waiting for their unit.    

After this 10 units sold out,   offer 10 more unit at 200 coin each

I am very sure there are many buyer willing to pay a premium to get their unit ship first,
69  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Which will come first Avalons 3rd batch or BFL's first? on: March 20, 2013, 10:52:43 PM
I remember BFL said they will donate 1000 coins if they miss their power draw target
70  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 10:31:47 PM
we discussed batch3 price for a long time.

personally, i do think this is a reasonable price.

batch#1: 1300USD + your trust,  batch#2: 1500USD + your trust, batch#3 = ?

why batch 1 and batch2 customers will enjoy such a low USD price and extremly high profit? because they put their valuable trust on us.

last September, most of you think we have little chance to win, or could be a crappy scam, you don't buy.

this January, considerable people think we take Jeff down or just spent 400K to make a prototype, you don't buy.

now, everything on track, machines delivered to your hands are only a matter of time. you want to buy them at a same price or something like 2000USD.

OK, please tell me, what is the price of people most valuable things "trust" should be? 500USD? no, 5000USD at least.

as a core developer, i look upon all Avalons as my son. i will send them to who believe us, not the faithless or buzzard.

Double the price is reasonable, 4+ times the "price" with another indefinite wait is absurd. Especially considering the hiccups and the delays and the general stonewalling of the people ( like me ) who ordered batch1 and batch 2 and still have nothing but a few emails and promises of "its shipped".

If you want to sell them for 100btc and you have them in stock and are shipping the next day and guarantee delivery in a week, yeah maybe the price works for the profiteers.

If you want 100 btc and you jerk everyone around like the last 2 orders, ignore the users asking for very little information and don't maintain a delivery schedule, it not going to happen. People are going to go to BFL, get their SC or minirig in the same time frame and have smaller more efficient devices.

Avalon has a niche, exploit it a little, don't go raping people. The guys who are buying them mostly are people like me, not profiteers, we are hobbyists. I'm not rich. I'm a poor college researcher like you.

Dr Zhang you've always been a straight shooter and very knowledgeable. You guys deserve a profit. If you need a huge profit then just publically mine with half a batch and make your money there and sell the other half. Limit orders to one per person and premine the units for a week or whatever then ship them off. But demanding a ridiculous cost in btc up front with vague delivery and distant support is not what I've come to expect from team avalon.

very well said

like I said earlier,  88 coin and unit in stock READY to ship = fair deal

five grand and who know when will you get a shipping tracking number will not gonna fly
71  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: 15K USD FOR AN AVALON?! on: March 20, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
if you see private bidding ebay, run with your money while you still can. Private bidding is risky, you do not know who biding on it. Could be seller with multiple acct bidding on his own auction , could be his friend, uncle, aunt, grandma helping him out. That is why it price got so high. If the scam fall through then they just say buyer did not pay and ebay will not charge them seller fee, if they do have a idiot that did pay $15K,  party time.
72  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 06:36:01 PM
maybe that post is a fake, as i stated i see nothing on their site reflecting that forum post on the other forum OP posted.

for 5k you can get alot of FGPAs, maybe with their power usage it may even be realistic?

OK Now we will need to verify that asking price once for all
73  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 06:34:38 PM
haha  I was thinking the same way too
88 coin per unit
600 unit for sale = 52800 coin

60 dollar a coin  = $3168000

that is 3 million dollar pumping to the market, even some of the buyer already some coin in their wallet so let say half of that 3 millions going to the market today, it will drive the BTC price up for sure.

If this is correct, that also mean after the avalon sale is over and people do not need to buy BTC to purchase avalon any more and BTC price WILL drop

74  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 06:24:24 PM
coin is 60 dollar now so one avalon = 4 BFL single SC
75  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
or you can 4 unit for 240 GH of power for the same price of one avalon
76  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 05:58:10 PM
At the current BTC value the price can be justified but I'm not so sure 3-4 months down the line. Good luck to those who buy, I'll be sitting this one out.
that is another good point. BTC price may go down and reduce ROI futher. If I have to spend US dollar to BTC to buy avalon and btc went down half  then I already lost half my investment even before I see my unit.
77  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 05:49:03 PM
you are right, time fly in bitcoin world and 6-8 months is too long. Especially Avalon is still not even ship their batch 2 yet. Asicminer is adding speed to their hashing power by the day. by the time Avalon batch 3 come , it may be too late( for five grand price tag )
78  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: The latest Avalon announcement in China(Translated). Batch #3, price and more. on: March 20, 2013, 05:19:06 PM
wow 88 coins for one, five grand ? Shocked their batch 2 is not even ship yet, heck even some of their batch 1 customer still have not receive their unit.  If we order now, we will not get it until 3 months later or more . By that time  Asicminer put up their 100 terahash and Avalon unit will make 0.5 coin a days, killing all ROI. 


If Avalon say they has one in stock ready to ship RIGHT NOW  , then it may be worth it. But we all know that WILL NOT happen

3 or MORE months to get one , totally not worth it

79  Other / Archival / Re: Pictures of your mining rigs! on: March 14, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
After some work, heres how it looks





Could you please tell me which motherboard you use with 7970. I also see so many version of 7970 card, which one that you use?
Many THanks
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] The Litecoin PPS Pool - We pay for stale shares! on: March 14, 2013, 05:42:20 PM
I got it working now, thanks
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