This is such a great time to be involved with BitBillions! Yesterday, on the 15, was our first official payday, all commissions have been paid and we can see them here: https://blockchain.info/address/14dQbTxUR7ds6GeeUmuNWLVuUCeruSW9mLIn our transparency page, we have access to all addresses and we can verify every pool balance. Upgrade Comp Pool 14dQbTxUR7ds6GeeUmuNWLVuUCeruSW9mL 3.68555694 | $ 1,692.78 And all GBBG projects paid us today too: http://www.bitfeud.com/: Ref Comp Pool 1NDjtU4PwycUoJdDvveH6fRKR37b5eyjrA 2.36254386 | $ 1,085.59 http://www.iwantacar.com/:Referral Compensation Pool 12SBEQwjDznceMJaZJDuEJTqFrzsq33AkH 2.02862635 | $ 932.09 http://www.mybitcoinrewards.com/Referral Compensation Pool 1CKWuK62bq2DuJbKdxuqjV9W8pdQHJLrmd 1.76749327 | $ 812.89 This is maybe not much, but it is our first payday and if we add all commissions together, it's enough for us to smile  |
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what happens if the graveyard is full? i can't produce unskilled work anymore, even if my population isn't full right?
Yep, but the graveyard not active yet Well this is rather interesting. I think that the normal tax should be 10%.
The normal tax is 10%, your town share fund is another 10%, but do not consider the town shares as tax liability, consider it as easy, additional way to earn your gold. Some shares have incredible return... They have made lots of money from this game. The people investing just to be better than everyone else is unbelievable.
This is our human nature, isn't? But I think majority of members do invest to have faster and bigger return. |
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@Lauda, it is not 30%, it could be 30% and even 40% if your country is at war, but the normal is 20%, including the town shares tax, which is providing a lot of extra profits for some...
I did not talk about the normal tax, but tax in general, such as the one we pay we pay when we buy and sell goods, for example when we sell a worker, we pay 0.1 tax... when we sell our shares, we pay too...
The game finances in my opinion are designed very smart, for both, the game fund and for the players. We never can have something from nothing, right...
Please look at this profile:
User Zaqwsx
Signup 26 days ago
Last Online 10 hours ago
Country Russia
Happiness 97%
Level 34
Signed up 26 days ago and 97% happiness on 34 level... That Zaqwsx had to pay a lot for his raws, his energy and instant finishes. But, even so, even with a lot of money, it is a great challenge to get to level 34 in 36 days and have 97% happiness...
He also invested a lot in wars and local attacks:
"he sended to me (kovandap ) almost 120 soldiers in 5 waves, and I defended, so he lost 120 soldiers and me too
waste of money...
and sended troops to nachofenix too............... and he is in many country wars"
We are laughing that he is from Russia mafia, but from his example you can see how seriously some people are playing this game...
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how do they check when to mine?
I wrote about this before, here: "@Amph, there is a whole science ( well maybe not a science but a simple math) behind those gold prices. Some members watch the Gold tab Activity site like hawks, allways ready to mine at the most profitable time. Look, the whole game market is based on real demand. There are no fixed prices for anything, all the prices, including the price of mining gold, are based on number of sales in the last 24 hours. If there are more sales, the price increases, if less, the price gets cheaper to stimulate more sales... When you click on the Gold tab, you will see the current price for gold, meaning how many resources it will take to mine one piece of gold. Sometimes the price there is 1600, sometimes is only 100. It all depends on how much gold was recently mined. Every hour the game fund provides maximum 3 gold for miners. In this page you can see the activity of gold mines all over the world. In order to extract the gold you need to build a gold mine. Extraction of gold requires resources. The raw material's quantity required to extract one gold is revised every hour and posted in this page.
The gold in the game, just like our bitcoin, it's a limited resource. There could never be more than 100,000 gold in circulation. The game fund is constantly adjusting and controlling the amount of gold available to members. So every hour the fund provides max 3 gold. If the members mine more, the price to mine raises, if they mine less, the price declines. "In the last 24 hours, miners extracted 75.22 gold. The last deposit was found 42 minutes ago" In the last 24 hours members mined 75.22 gold, meaning they mined more then the set standard, the standard is no more than 3 gold per hour, meaning (3x24) they mined over the limit and now, in the next hour, when the price will be adjusted, we can be sure the price will go up. There is also one more indication, how long ego was found the last gold deposit... and same, if it was longer then 3 hours, the price will go down, less - the price will go up. These gold calculations are not very important at the beginning of the game, but as we progress to raw material and gold sellers, they are becoming more and more crucial... We are not playing any more, we are carefully calculating % of our profits :-)" This could of been a great game. But, they have too many aspects of the game which stop you from enjoying it. Such, as you come back every X amount of hours. That's not enjoyable. It's more like a routine. The only routine part in the game is the collection of products, and that in level 5 is every 48h, so not too often. The higher the level of the game - the more fun! When you have plenty of workers, you can finish your processes almost instantly and truly enjoy building your town. To make everything fit there, yep, this is very much enjoyable, at least for me and many others. You think it is too easy, nope, it is not easy at all, try to get to 100% happiness and then tell us how easy that was... now i've read, that it is possible to mine only 72 virtual gold per days(3x24 hours)
this mean 1gr= 703 virtual gold = 30.73----->703:30.73=72:x----> x=(30.73x72)/703= 3.14 euro a day x 30= about 100 in one month
this mean that, even if you are the only miner, which isn't true, it's impossible to do more than 100 in one month, and someone already said that they are making 1k in one month.
but then you have that 1 virtual gold is 5 euro, something isn't right here lol You can't buy for 5 euro any more and it will cost more and more... Your calculation is correct as to the number of virtual coins, BUT have you noticed, right at the top of the site, it is shown the current, updated Gold Reserve. That 24k gold backup is steadily on the rise, its amount is increasing as the game progresses. At the moment of this writing (and the amount is changing in front of our eyes) it is 142.77878 Gr Gold and 1 gr real 24k gold = 700 game gold! 1 virtual gold price is based NOT on mining but on that reserve and that reserve is based on total profits in the game. Have you forgotten, they are selling energy packs, selling instant finishing, advertising and of course collecting taxes, and as you well know, those taxes are not small... I wasn't that someone who said that is already making 1K in a month, but I can easily imagine that, I think that top members are making way more than 1K... and please kindly remember, they are NOT only earning gold from mining, mining is the main way of earning but NOT the only one. Members calculate their profits, sometimes they are not mining, but instead selling raws. Or they are mining and selling raws! Observe the market place more, those raws there sell like warm buns. Members also make profits from selling game workers, participating in wars and attacks and they make substantial profits from selling their referrals. This is a live marketplace and a live trading platform, all numbers have to fit there precisely! |
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Golden Towns are almost 20K members, WOW, this is fast! And guys, please look at the graphics below and tell us if they remind you...  Here is the future GTC (Golden Towns Coin)  and here more screenshots from the wallet app   Sorry the graphics are so huge, I do not mean to overwhelm you, I just took them straight f from our forum. |
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Nope guys, GoldenTown considers level 3 members as full members, and from level 3, members start paying taxes and start participating in wars and attacks. But, those attacks would not be so frequent, for lower level members are not worth the cost of a soldier to occupy their town. The occupant will pay more for the attack and occupation, then he will collect in taxes from lower level members. So in reality, he will loose more than the attacked town.
At this moment, we are not able to withdraw our forces from the occupied towns, but soon this option will be open and you will see many current occupants leaving without a fight.
Please notice the price of a soldier and calculate how many resources it would take to cover that price, many more than an average level 3-5 member produces.
As to what I wrote yesterday, the price of game gold has been already revised. Now we can buy 1 game gold for 5.2 euro and sell it for 4.00 euro. So according to prediction, the game gold is getting more and more valuable.
@ Amph, I am sorry but I have to strongly disagree, there is no one forcing anyone to invest, it is entirely up to you, you can keep on paying 10% taxes until you are ready to liberate yourself. If you keep on playing and producing, eventually (even if the occupying troops would not get withdrawn or die (soldiers like workers have limited lifespan)) you will be able to purchase your soldiers from your produced gold or by training your own soldiers in the barracks. Your town without investing would not collapse, but... you must keep on playing.
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@Vani, thank you for reading @LaudaM, yes, the capacity of our warehouses were always stated in FAQ. This is from FAQ, Building Types section: Warehouses store raw materials. A level 1 warehouse can store up to 600 raw material units. Its capacity increases with 600 units / level, up to 3000 units at level 5. The town’s storage capacity is the aggregated capacity of the warehouses. If you have2 level 5 warehouses and a level 3 one, the storage capacity shall be 7800 raw material units. Material warehouses use up to 5 employees. If all the warehouses are full, you will no longer be able to store raw materials.And if we are not able to store our materials, we simply loose them, which is painful but fair. Every game has to be played according to its rules and although GoldenTowns it's a way to earn online money, it's a game too. @Eternity, if you go to the Gold section, in Activity, you can see how much gold specific members mined... Your question is impossible for me to answer, it's a little like asking how much money I have in my wallet, ha ha Plus, I really do not know my total, I care about how many mines I have and on what level. I know that top players have already around 30- 35 level 5 mines, so you can easily calculate how much gold they mine every 24 h and how much in total they have already collected ;-) I am not even close to them yet, but I know that eventually I will get there. Also, please notice, that small players mine at any price, big players seldom mine if the cost of gold is over 600 raws. I know some who stay whole nights glued to their screens, to catch the right moment to produce their gold. |
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Please look, these members won the last flash sale: CLICK HERE for 100% transparency. You can see payments made to each winner: https://blockchain.info/address/1CEHKprXVpLKV8Gdb864g6q4ZUnixR1zEwWinners: 11/12/2013 $10 for $5POSITION MEMBER TIMESTAMP PAID 1 1MpBTqRWzJp6jNDtaRxzyjwoo1uWuvWW4g 2013-11-12 11:51:11.854.05 YES 2 17mHUrEcAbWuqug3tb28xnbxQ4NRDhNreN 2013-11-12 11:52:42.570.2 YES 3 1Ak4GcBxhmatykUekBE7F4De1aTfb8Jfdg 2013-11-12 11:52:48.561.75 YES 4 1MofjNiqJ854tNxzjDk4swHWAYMSBvkx1P 2013-11-12 11:52:51.116.36 YES 5 1EPpaLk4varZ1h4tWkjBjXeZ6GkyinLvYX 2013-11-12 11:52:51.123.79 YES 6 175YuNSxEmgvikqMuWzaBEbw7Fq8anfAh8 2013-11-12 11:52:51.158.61 YES 7 1GmdNvVkeoLdofCzr38ZAxjwEdHgsgcTqQ 2013-11-12 11:52:52.523.6 YES 8 1JWcqs3Xrru5qKddWHgk5fzZjHbxkZPmwY 2013-11-12 11:53:00.500.59 pending 9 19hhRJ7P7WMqauQteJmm4pf72LiTmdJuHB 2013-11-12 11:53:00.634.71 YES 10 13twfCHr5FcSUHyfFTKDMe9jSoEnDTDp12 2013-11-12 11:53:02.153.89 YES 11 12isz4owz9DR9rsZia4QrJEgrqLywAMZm3 2013-11-12 11:53:35.862.13 YES 12 16w55YebhM5VuyaqpDQoHU9bCGuqZV9K6X 2013-11-12 11:54:14.40.75 YES 13 1Eghqg2WXpVfbjvyGPSqQPJENJXANYp38H 2013-11-12 11:54:26.853.79 YES 14 1NVRhPWKTpqUcue7feEfk6odG5Nf7S7sZ6 2013-11-12 11:54:27.457.4 YES 15 13mGY2Ku5ZKnUF6zGsqhTeqVZ8329RQnp1 2013-11-12 11:54:28.941.71 YES 16 18ktEquBmrUXgfDmsTjQSx9oPQEK3LADVU 2013-11-12 11:55:37.324.03 YES 17 1Q9qEKThy5UKgToYwhhaWELeWbd4uCehXC 2013-11-12 11:56:40.614.31 YES 18 14VuiGkFjEUYND1reptsCWzyAUmmUC3JmL 2013-11-12 11:58:01.743.61 YES 19 1Kvp6HNsk8eMQ33MDBH43LL1iG6AePNkFG 2013-11-12 11:58:22.170.75 YES 20 1J8kzZ8ZKzpncT2DWLCqWHyDyhuqp6UmB 2013-11-12 11:59:05.513.8 YES 21 12Cfc9DjbNUgw9T1xbcmkcHhbnAvYykERP 2013-11-12 12:00:14.516.62 YES 22 1H2svnCQgHBH8wGrbPVP5PLKVpznAhVnm4 2013-11-12 12:00:20.225.97 YES The one member who shows pending, likely did not purchased his 'product', we have 48 h to do claim our winnings. |
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Thanks Hasher87 :-) please do it, and if you may, share here with others what your found out.
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Well, energy is always needed, but we spent it much less. We collect our production from buildings on the 5th level every 48 hours...
I have a good news, I heard that the value of our gold and raw products will be very soon adjusted to make it more worthwhile to mine gold. As it is at the moment, the price to mine 0. 01 gold does not always warrant the price of spent for it raws .
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@tutkarz, it's hard to answer that question, but from the Skype chat I know that some of them invested more than 2K Euro.
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@Vani, it will get better and better with the energy.
But an extra shot of energy, would carry you through these low levels much faster.
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@TheQuin, both of these ways are working, through the contact form and through posting in the forum.
Even if the moderator would not answer, he always immediately reports all bugs to the administration and I know that for sure :-)
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On the request from members, they have changed the November 12 Flash Sale. Instead of $50 for $25, it was $10 for $5, but also instead of 3 winners, the maximum of flash sales was set to 25, and 22 members today succeeded to click on the 'Get It' button and win their $10 for $5 cash. Our next flash sale will be a big one for a change: $100 for $50 Wednesday, November 20, 2013 Around 8 AM EDT (NYC) Limit: 3 Winners Open to Premier Members ONLY Maybe you will like to try it, this game is worth playing: GBBG - BitFeud.com
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Nope, not long at all, only 3 months in beta now, I think this is very short time for this kind of a game...
I think we should learn to be more patient with the occasional bugs, always let the support know about them and give them fair chance to fix it.
Also, at times, like recently with the warehouse capacity feature, we think is a bug and it's not any bug but the newly activated feature.
Very often when we can't perform the regular operation, cleaning the cookies and starting on a fresh browser normalize everything.
It's a good thing to make a habit to pay attention to the red alerts in our accounts. I had not stoped to read them, and before I realized what was going on, I lost quite a lot of my raws... Stupidity sometimes hurts...
Amph. do not make the same mistake I did, do not allow your misplaced buildings to collapse, (you will have to clear the land same like a bush land and this is costly and time consuming) it is a lot of cheaper and faster to demolish the buildings. Please note that the buildings which you need to demolish must be active, they need the required influence and workers. Also, please know that the workers from demolished building will get back to your inventory, from collapsed buildings, they will not.
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The substance of your argument was my ref link and I addressed it directly ;-) I even used quotes lol
But, I like your graphic, can I use it in the future for those ass hats ha ha.
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Amph, you're likely already know that everything depends on the force of the attack... but we know about it in advance, so it's easy to defend.
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Amph, check kovandap population.... surely is possible, but they help themselves with extra resources, energy, bought workers and at times with instant ending of the processes.
Later on, when we have more workers, instant ending is possible without paying for it, just by hiring more workers.
Linda, upgrade your production buildings, and upgrade to the highest level starting with wood and through stone and meat, with the current market prices, upgrade your veggies last, you can always exchange other resources to veggies with profit.
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