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61  Economy / Speculation / Re: did Bitcoin Popp? on: November 10, 2013, 02:28:12 AM
It's fun to watch the numbers, but seriously - unless you're shoving money into Bitcoin that you can't afford to lose, there's no point in freaking out. This is going to happen.
62  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 36BTC in tx fees - How to work with blockchain.info? on: November 10, 2013, 12:01:39 AM
To me, it looks like possibly a lot of accounts that had "collected dust" (small payments from faucets and free µBTC sites) and were transferred to a single address.
63  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Brainstorm] Implications of Blacklisting DPR's Seized Bitcoins on: October 29, 2013, 03:34:02 AM
I don't WANT any of this.  I'm saying, Bitcoin might fail to become widely accepted without some kind of supervision.

If Bitcoin fails to become widely accepted because some centralized agency doesn't exist to slam down the iron fist ... then it deserves to fail on its own merits.

I don't think it will.  Which is why I don't think it needs anything like this.  AT ALL.
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Brainstorm] Implications of Blacklisting DPR's Seized Bitcoins on: October 29, 2013, 03:30:43 AM
Like i said, i guess there will be very few independent agencies who will take care of the blacklist.  Trust and reputation has to grow over the years I'm afraid. And yes if a member of this agency decides to screw you over, you can do nothing about it.

Sounds like a terrific plan.  Roll Eyes 

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But it will be very unlikely that you will be affected by such a corruption. As soon as the corruption spreads and public becomes aware of it, people will start using another agency.

What if that agency - which will have a lot of money at that point, and with money comes power - decides you don't get to break the contract? What if that agency decides that you're not worth the potential negative publicity that may result in additional customer attrition? What if that agency decides you might sleep best at the bottom of the river? A little corruption after all. Nothing big.  Grin

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Most people are willing to pay that small price (of possible corruption) to have a working legal system (forced right now in the real world or unforced in libertarian & Bitcoin society) that takes care of the bad guys.

You realize that what you're describing here is essentially a protection racket, right? Replacing one large corrupt Federal mafia for smaller mafias for hire.

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As market participants are unable to track down and bitcoins can be easily laundered the only way for the real world legal system to cope with bitcoin-criminals is to shut down Bitcoin completely.

You mean like the record industry managed to cope with copyright infringment by shutting down Bit Torrent completely? Your faith in cryptocurrency is weak, young Jedi.

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The first criminal, who stole 144K coins and will probably use parts of it to kill civilians in  just another innocent country, just recently entered the market :-)

It's just a little corruption, you know. As soon as the corruption spreads and the public becomes aware of it, they'll vote it out of offic- ... oh wait, that doesn't really work.

(Cheers!)
65  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What a surprise! Bitcoin find on: October 29, 2013, 03:19:43 AM
You might be able to buy Detroit with that.  Wink
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The NEXT generation of Physical Bitcoins... on: October 29, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
That's one handsome coin.
67  Other / Off-topic / Re: Best VPN's using Bitcoin? on: October 27, 2013, 11:19:39 PM
I've been using AirVPN as well. The only thing that sucks about it is that you can only run one instance on any device at any given time.

ProXPN allows you to run as many instances as you want, provided each is on a different VPN server - but I don't *think* they accept Bitcoin yet.

I use AIrVPN for *all of my home Internet traffic and have been happy with speeds and latencies so far. They don't have an automatic way to set up multiple device access, but apparently if you contact them they'll set you up manually with a plan.


* except for encrypted and anonymized traffic like Tor, I2P, and Freenet. There's no point routing those through the VPN.
68  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked to some people at college about bitcoin and they laughed at me. on: October 27, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
You have stupid friends. Find some smarter ones, or stick to talking about guns, girls, cars, and beer.
I'm gay, a liberal, drive a prius, and don't drink alcohol.

You could ... talk about your dick, um ... I got nothin'.

Cheesy
69  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What a surprise! Bitcoin find on: October 27, 2013, 11:13:34 PM
Extremely cool. Fair play to you!

So I was sort of "spring cleaning" through my tech, old MacBooks and what not and I realized I had a bitcoin wallet stored on my last Macbook from 2012 and found 300 bitcoins just hanging out. What a nice surprise!
70  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are some international payment companies not allowing Americans to join? on: October 27, 2013, 02:59:29 PM
If you that's annoying for people who live in the USA, try being a US citizen who moves abroad and also has your account terminated:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/US_expats_feel_the_burden_of_FATCA.html?cid=35932576


The poor bastards can't even renounce their citizenship to avoid the great tax nazi. http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

I clicked the link.  Now the NSA thinks I'm planning to defect. Haha! Thanks. Wink

Seriously, though - "Want to stop being an American? FUCK YOU, you're an American until WE say you're not. You're going to be a citizen of the Greatest Freedomocracy in the History of EVER, and you're going to like it."
71  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked to some people at college about bitcoin and they laughed at me. on: October 27, 2013, 04:18:00 AM
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Mahatma Gandhi

Looks like your friends are on step two in their relationship with Bitcoin.  They are kinda behind the times laugh at you saw so 2012.

Actually, the correct version of that quote is not quite as sunny:

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you."
72  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I talked to some people at college about bitcoin and they laughed at me. on: October 26, 2013, 06:34:18 PM
"If you think I'm crazy, then let's have a little wager.

Let's wager one-tenth of a Bitcoin that, one year from now, I will be right about this.

If I'm wrong ... let's see here, one-tenth of a Bitcoin is roughly $20 right now - so, if I'm wrong, in a year, I'll pay you $20. Because obviously, if you're right and I'm wrong, then one-tenth of a Bitcoin will be worth less than that. So that'll be fair.

If you're wrong, however, one year from today you will pay me one-tenth of a Bitcoin.

Here, I know a notary public. Let's put this down on paper, just to be honest."
73  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Brainstorm] Implications of Blacklisting DPR's Seized Bitcoins on: October 26, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
I believe no core developer or anyone should tell anyone if Bitcoin should be neutral or anything. The people should decide whether they want to use the Blacklist-Client or the original.  I'm willing to donate BTCs for the first coder to provide a Client with a Blacklist option.  

And when someone decides to force your assets onto the blacklist in retaliation, or some other perceived slight? Who will be the one providing oversight? And how will we trust them? Will it be a cabal of the 1% of Bitcoin owners? A coalition of government organizations? And what recourse will you have once someone declares your wallet full of fraudulent funds? What happens if the judgment of whatever "authority" deems your appeal invalid and your funds remain forever black-marked?

Do you really want to continue down this road? Sounds like there's more 'force' involved here than in neutrality.

Also, we'll have to have a look in your pocketbook.  Some of these notes might need to be blackmarked.

Seriously, though, feel free to create a whole new coin that integrates your ideas into it and let the market decide. I'm quite sure that "Confis-Coin" will be a huge success.  Wink
74  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Brainstorm] Implications of Blacklisting DPR's Seized Bitcoins on: October 26, 2013, 06:10:19 PM
Quite simply, adding blacklisting to the protocol will eventually cripple bitcoin, probably kill it. Human nature will guarantee that.

And that's why government(s) will almost certainly insist upon blacklisting in the protocol as a condition of acceptance as legal tender - whether it's by central authority or a decentralized system.

No need for physical force, if i'm able to corrupt the system based on the rules of the system.

How do people get added to the blacklist? I assume someone has to do so manually? And how is a consensus reached? Votes? Do people have to register their real life identities in order to vote? Or do they just vote by registering?

It's way too easy to game this system. No need for physical violence or threat thereof. You simply threaten to make someones coin horde unspendable. Either by having lots of people register to vote you onto the blacklist (i assume that it would be done via email address or, worst, cell phone number), both are very easy to come by.

Explain precisely how do you stop this?
75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The One True God: Satoshi Nakamoto on: October 24, 2013, 04:57:29 PM
No. :-P
76  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bets Of Bitcoin? on: October 22, 2013, 05:22:36 AM
EDIT: Outcome was reversed. Situation resolved.

I'm a bit pissed. My bet was closed - incorrectly - as true:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1738

This statement is closed.
Decision: True
The price of Bitcoin will be higher than $150 by October 15th 2013

The price of Bitcoin on BitcoinAverage.com will be higher than $150 at any point of the day on October the 15th 2013.

Info
Opening date: Sept. 5, 2013
Bet deadline: Oct. 13, 2013 end of day Eastern Time
Event date: Oct. 15, 2013 end of day Eastern Time



Actually, I watched it until midnight, EST.  It got extremely close but did not crack 150 once before midnight EST.

I realize I'm shouting at wind, but this actually bothers me a bit more than if it had not been closed at all.
77  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bets Of Bitcoin? on: October 21, 2013, 12:59:27 AM
BitBet is about a thousand times more trustworthy.

I did find BitBet after BOBTC.

I might give it a try.

It looks like the last confirmed event on BOBTC was "Walter White dies in Breaking Bad".

 Undecided
78  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bets Of Bitcoin? on: October 21, 2013, 12:55:49 AM
So... yeah...

Does that answer your question?

It does. I won't have lost a terribly large sum of money, but it'd be nice to get it nonetheless.

Otherwise, stupid tax paid.  Grin
79  Economy / Service Discussion / Bets Of Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2013, 09:24:30 PM
Does anyone know anything about this site? If legit, does anyone have any idea what the average length of time is before an outcome can be decided and closed, and the bidders paid out?
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How you can get your first bitcoin? on: October 19, 2013, 02:40:03 PM
Start a useful service and accept BTC for it. Trade the earnings from it, whether BTC or alts, and double or triple what you make! Repeat.

Be creative!

Start a useful service and, if you have confidence in continuation of increasing value, sell it for less than presently worth.  Smiley
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