I mean it's one thing to help others to get out of a fee which has it's ethical implications, but a whole other thing to skim part of the stolen dev fee on top for yourself.
In the next release, I will add the option for users to leave part of the fees to Claymore to reduce the fee as they like to. hmmm... instead, why not go jump off a building and save all reasonable people some time from reading your excuses of why you think it's ok to outright steal from others. This would also save you from going to prison, where you will most assuredly get what you deserve for your crimes. Amazing how many losers will make such a huge deal out of 1 freaking %! OP willing to go to prison for 1% and dolts who use his hackjob willing to risk all your crypto earnings by running a script from a cheat/hack/POS newb again... to save 1%???!!! how about actually trying to use that brain you supposedly have in your heads lol. |
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oh he did his work, embedded an obfuscated dll in gzip converted to a byte array, which then uses ReadProcessMemory and WriteProcessMemory from kernel32.dll.
I think it's pretty nice, wonder does claymore detect it some way.
The main point here everyone is missing (imho). Forget the fee thing for a moment.. Crypto WAS a bunch of "cypherpunk" hacking away on shit, to make strong, Privacy-centric technologies as a means for social change hacking things to work the way they REQUIRED them to work, their purpose was primarily more specific than just the average run of the mill hackers/script-kiddies from nowadays. The essence of Crypto from my experience is; in a nutshell: beating a system, whatever that system maybe. Being able to participate in a system which has for decades battered the common folk,
a system which is oppressive and served the select few at the top, coupled with innovation in trustless, distributed peer-to-peer systems in order to
communicate in a secure manner 'and/or' relay & process financial assets transactions. And not forgetting, of course, a whole raft of other aspects & considerations..
but in a nutshell.. revolutionize a financial system which works for the many not just for the few.This very issue was raised over in a popular discord channel only the other week RE: claymore's fee's AND as you could imagine the suggestion caused a bit of a shit storm; mostly against the idea of circumventing DevFee however it did spark debate (which was the important part). IMHO The whole devfee thing is stupid shit! However dumb it maybe, it is on most people's (who mine Crypto specifically ETH\ETC\SC\DCR\PASL\LBRY) minds.. And most of all how to defeat\bypass said fee's. Ultimately, this question boils-down to the main thrust of the issue, for miners & the crypto space in general is BEING the most PROFITABLE. Also two fold to be able to contribute to a 'cause!' Miners appreciate the fact participating in mining crypto is / can be expensive, therefore any advantage gained (perceived or not) the majority will go for it. its human nature to take path of least resistance. Going back to my initial point regarding the WHOLE fee thing. I think it boils down to the structure AND the means by which Claymore has gone about generating HIS fees. Which is from a CAPTIVE audience. A caveat provided by claymore in his miners is that you CAN -devfee 0 and take a mining performance hit. Yes, I do agree developers need to make a wage to survive.. I stress a wage.. NOT a fucking monopoly which reapes in hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not, millions of bucks FOR Claymores (reoccurring). There are other issues which people fail to mention is 1-2% of something seems small but extrapolate that over a long period & multiply & compound that with thousands of miners which makes for a HUGE profit and possibility OTHER negative outcomes could occur from one person being able to charge miners who wish to participate. There are Fees everywhere now, a Pool fee, a Fee to mine with a tool, A fee to send from Pool > Wallet ANOTHER FEE to sell into another coin ANOTHER fee to then pull back out. FEES GALORE What about the security implications of having such a widely used miner which is closed source and yet another flaw is discovered (RE: remote port vulnerability in Claymore v10.5 + below) A single person(dev) should not have this much influance OR control IMHO. it's not healthy. So, I say fuck it if he profits from others work merged which his own work then why not allow others to profit off claymores back. If that means I get to keep some of my hard earned mining hash and some other guy gets to profit a little less from myself as a user of the tool in the process to.. I mean shit, Claymore has made some tidy bank now (and will continue to make). Is it right to bypass claymore's fee and reroute to Eth_Savers wallet instead ? ( https://github.com/d3z00r/Claymore-11.0-No-DevFee-DevFee-Removed) It's in the crypto DNA to hack shit, even the hackers get hacked  .. IMO, I say fair game, let it roll!. wow... pretty verbose spouting of BS for a 20-post newb lol. So, since you are ok with this and other hackjob losers stealing rightfully earned fees from devs that have directly enabled miners to make thousands or millions without ANY upfront commitment... I suppose you would also be ok if another group of loser somehow hacked your paycheck and stole 10-15% of your earnings every month, right? Because after all, while your pay as a bus-boy at Red Robin might not seem like a lot to some, it is comparatively a TON more than those unemployed scum of the earth hackers are making, so it is justifiable for them to steal from you since you are making more than them. So, what do you say? Is your paltry pay-check also fair game? Let it roll baby! |
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I like this program
WHY
everybody is STEELING fees from us
we mine and pay the bill and yes we make money
But this fee thing on pools, devs, wallets etc etc etc is worse then taxes
I am glad some people are looking into this
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By the way i would buy it if it has no dev fee personally i think that would be the best option considdering you are taking fees now.
RIH you newbie scum! Charging a usage fee for a "free" program to try is hardly "steeling". For a true definition of stealing, see OP. You ingrate newbs need to get a freaking life already. Hacking to steal someone else's rightfully earned fees is both illegal and immoral, and you will all RIH for your transgressions. |
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If anyone wants a good laugh, take a look at this auction for 4 MSI 470s and 1 480. https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-RX-470-Gaming-X-4GB-Graphics-Card-GDDR5-Video-Card-4-gigabyte-Twin-Frozr-VI/222834582077?hash=item33e1f9e23d:g:2SMAAOSw57xafLA9#viTabs_0Ok, aside from this joker asking $500 per GPU BIN price... check the description. He claims to have bought these new but they only have 3 months of use on them. So, let's do the math... we all know that there have been zero new 470's on the market since June'17 at the very latest. That was 8 months ago. So, this guy expects people to believe that he has had some of the most profitable GPUs around over the past 1-2 years sitting idle for 5 months? This is down right comical alone, not even talking about the fact that he claims to have not overclocked them. Bottom line is that jokers like this are around and potentially thriving due to a lot of noob crypto miners outrageously over-paying for GPUs. I actually wouldn't be shocked if one of them snapped this up lol. But i just hate seeing downright liars get over on anyone. |
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Nice to see the market back up solidly over $450B most of the day today. looks like BTC poised to go back over $10k and ETH back over $1k, maybe in the next day or 2. ZCL actually went through the roof last 2 days... back in the $165 range after being stuck under $100 since the correction. One thing I have noticed about this recovery is that most major coins are recovering better than the lower end ones. ETH is only about 30% below it's high but some other coins I hold like BURST, TRX and a few others are 60-75% below their highs. I think it will be tough for a lot of these to get back close to those highs any time soon, in contrast to ETH or XMR or even maybe DASH, which I can totally see getting close or eclipsing in the next few months. Luckily i did sell off some lower coins near their highs... mainly BURST... but dang... at 12 freaking cents I should have sold it all lol. Hindsight is 20/20 though after all ;-)
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Thanks to everyone for your tips on the M.2 adapter. not sure I want to risk it for just 1 additional GPU at this point... especially given the fact that I tend to be away for several weeks at a time with all my rigs running in my house.
Anyway, regarding that same build on the Asus Prime Z270-A... is there anything that needs to be done in the Mobo settings/BIOS in order to enable 6-7 GPUs on Windows 10? To date I have only built on ASRock BTC Pro R2 & Biostar TB mobos, both of which are good for 6 GPU on W10 with no tweaks at all... but I have read that on some mobos, they require some BIOS settings change to gen 1 or something like that. For those of you that run these Asus mobos... is any of that necessary?
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out of stock and all 9 of my gently used 1070's are gone. sold for 500 each plus shipping. yeah... shocked they even lasted 30-40 minutes to be honest. Maybe it's a sign supply may start to open up a bit... maybe not lol. At least now i only need 1-2 more 1070ti's to complete my 2nd Nvidia rig. |
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Lets talk new egg here , seen a few lower priced 580s finnaly , anyone have experince with multiple newegg accounts ?
do they look at the cc and shipping address or just the account if you have say two accounts ? , normally I dont mind buying one every few days
but with the currrent shortage i'd prefer to buy 2 or 3 and then be done with it for a while
Based on my recent experience, they are pretty savvy in determining true double ups by customers. Back in early Jan'18, I ordered a single Asus 1070ti off their website (limit of 1). About 2 hours later I realized they had that same GPU listed on Ebay, so I bought 1 there as well. A few hours later, I got a message saying that the ebay order was cancelled due to exceeding ordering limits. This surprised me because my paypal linked to my ebay has a different email address and payment method than what I used on NewEgg.com. So, they must use an algorithm based on shipping address in order to weed out these types of double up attempts. Based on this, I can really only think of 2 possible ways around it... 1) get a 2nd address like PO Box or something in conjunction with a 2nd newegg acct. Would probably also need to use a different CC to pay but I do wonder if they also have a name check built into their algo. Possibly getting the PO box in a different zip code could work as it seems unlikely their algo could be so advanced to sniff out something like this, but who knows. 2) get a friend to order it and have it shipped to their house. Only problem with this is the timings issue... since at least til now, when GPUs pop up as available they are gone in a few minutes or less. The 570/580 seems to stick for at least a couple of minutes lately but not the 1070ti's.... every time i get a notification and go directly to the site (newegg or amazon) they are gone already, which is baffling since I am there in seconds after getting notified. |
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Lots of cards starting to pop up online second hand!
Still outrageously priced, but i'm sure there will be some bargains soon.
give it a few more weeks, I warned all those fools paying tripple retail price it was a bad idea few people listened. The longer this blood bath lasts the worse it gets for idiots who paid $900 for a 1070 and $700 for 580s 🤦🏿♂️ Or $1300+ for a GTX 1080 Ti.... I sort of feel bad for them, but mostly for their families in the cases of people maxing out credit cards or taking loans thinking they could get rich quick without taking a peak at how history repeats itself over and over. I blame all the utubers "How to make $15 a day mining on one gtx 1080 TI!! Print your own monies!" I am glad I did not buy the expensive GTX 1080Ti. I think I can buy them for below $800 in a few weeks. Keep dreaming lol... if this last huge drop wasn't enough to kill the GPU gouging market, not sure it will end any time soon... and overall market if already back up about 40% from the bottom a few days ago. Yes, there is more supply hitting the market now but even the ones that are "only" marked up $100-$150 (newegg & amazon) are gone instantly. The only ones i've seen stick available for more than 1-2 minutes are the $730-ish 1070ti's that came in at B&H. Sorry jokers, Im not paying nearly 50% above retail from a MF'ing retailer lol! but clearly a lot of people are. Dare I say those cards will never ROI? Or maybe in 1+ years IF the market really skyrockets again... a lot of ifs. yeah $550 is my max for a 1070 or 107ti , $350 max for an RX 580 8GB until prices drop to those levels ill just hold my coins and wait for the next pump Yeah, my limits are close to your Marvell... in the last 2 weeks I've been lucky to get the following: - 1 MSI 570 Gaming 8GB ($329 from NewEgg) - 1 MSI 570 Gaming 4GB ($299 from NewEgg) - 2 Asus Rog-Strix 1080 A8G Gaming ($540 from my employer's EPP store) - 4 Asus Rog-Strix 1070ti A8G Gaming ($515 from my employer's EPP store) Obviously, extremely happy those 6 Asus GTX popped up in my EPP store and at about regular retail to boot! Probably could have got a few more of the 1070ti's but I wasn't sure what the limit was (we have a self-policing limit, not the mandated limit such as newegg) and by the time I read in the fine print that there is apparently no limit on GPUs, they were gone. Oh well, Im happy to get the 4 i did as I was already running 2 of that model and really loved them! About a week ago, I also sold off my 3 Vega 56's. Ended up getting about $900 each for them as ebay Buy-it-nows. So, came pretty close to doubling my money on them. Probably could have got a bit more if I listed them as auctions but didn't want to take that chance for 2 main reasons. #1 is that I listed 1 as an auction the week before and it ended at like $960 but the winner was an f'ing deadbeat buyer, never paid or communicated. In fact, at least half of the bids on that thing were from people with 1 or 0 feedback, which is not what i wanted to see. The other thing was that this was right in the middle of the big market correction, so I was fearful that demand was going to at least be reduced somewhat for these. Not the case though luckily for me. The first 2 sold within a few hours and the last one took about 12-13. First 2 went to miners and last went to a gamer. IMO, the miner purchases are downright crazy, but I will take their money lol. Even now, after the market has recovered to about 50% above it's bottom last week, Cryptonite coins are still way down as far as profitability goes with those Vega's. Monero seems to essentially be mined out now... barely above $1 a day per Vega running at 1900. Electronuem and Sumo are better at close to $3/day but those coins are still fringe IMO. So basically, at current rates, it will take about 1 year to ROI a $900 Vega, which is exactly why I sold my 3 lol. Those proceeds almost funded my 6x 1070ti rig lol. |
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Got my 1050 and 1050 ti "experiment" cards in today.
I'm NOT impressed.
EVGA 1050 single-fan 2GB, EVGA 1050 SC single-fan 2GB, EVGA 1050 ti single fan 4GB.
ALL of the cards have a hard-coded TDP limit at 52.5 watts, they will not LET you go lower at all - so 70% is the minimum, which doesn't leave a lot of room for tuning.
Performance on the SC vs the non-SC 1050 models was identical to within measurement limits, EXCEPT the SC model would not allow as high of an overclock.
On ZEC, the best efficiency was about 2.7 watts on the 1050 ti, 2.5 on the 1050 cards.
Efficiency was pretty much FLAT between 70% and 80%, then dropped off some a little above that.
Max hashrate was about 153 on the 1050 cards, 175ish on the 1050 ti, dropping about 25 hash on all 3 at 70% TDP.
No memory setting I tried, from -500 (which CRASHED the ti and the SC) to +500, had ANY noticeable effect on ZEC hashrate at all.
ALL 3 cards liked as much core overclock as I could feed them, but that was only about +100 on the SC and +200 on the other two cards.
On a hash/$ basis the 1050 is comparable to any other GTX 10xx card I've worked with, the 1050 ti bit worse than even the 1080 ti - and that's comparing to pricing in October/November before the shortages hit.
1050 would be a tolerable entry-level ZEC card if your electric cost isn't a factor or you have VERY cheap electric.
On a hash/watt basis they are VERY POOR.
On the UP side, none of these models have a 6-pin PCI-E connector, so if you have a MB with a TON of slots like the B250 Mining Expert you could cram a BUNCH of these cards in one rig with a single not-very-large power supply.
Cooling was fair, but not as good as my bigger cards EXCEPT the blower models, they're a bit better than the ASUS cards and a LOT better than the MSI "Turbo", but they were fairly close on temps to my EVGA 2-fan models.
They do NOT like being crammed on top of each other with no space though, 52.5 watt was hitting 82C on the one card I tried that way.
One slot between them empty was tolerable - they MIGHT cool well enough to be viable on the later Onda motherboards.
The 1050 ti on ETH was pulling a little over 13.3 Mhash - TDP didn't matter, core clock didn't matter, +500 memory clock DID matter (it was mid-12s at stock clocks).
Card only would use 62-63 watts when TDP was set to 75.
13.3 Mhash doesn't compare well on hash/watt vs one of my 1070 cards that manages 29 at 90.
If high-end Polaris pricing was SANE, this card would be a very poor choice for ETH mining on both a hash/watt and a hash/$ basis.
Ditto vs the 1070 on hash/watt though it would be somewhat close on hash/$.
At current pricing, it might be TOLERABLE as an entry-level card, with the same "no PCI-E power needed" advantage mentioned above, but I still can't really recommend them other than "you can GET them, better cards are bloody near impossible to get".
I always love reading your analysis on GPU's, helped me out a lot with my first 1070ti rig, but always good solid info across the board. sorry those 50ti's weren't too impressive. I've been tempted to test some lower end cards but have been pretty good and sticking to those with 8GB memory for "future proofing". The exception being a couple of MSI 570 4GB , but I am trying to complete that rig with the 8GB versions (have 2 already) when they become available then eventually replace the 4GB ones... so really don't want more than maybe 2-3 max on that 7-8 card rig. Will get that up and running and well as my 2nd 1070ti rig after the electrician comes out next week and drops my 4 new 20-amp outlets. |
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Lots of cards starting to pop up online second hand!
Still outrageously priced, but i'm sure there will be some bargains soon.
give it a few more weeks, I warned all those fools paying tripple retail price it was a bad idea few people listened. The longer this blood bath lasts the worse it gets for idiots who paid $900 for a 1070 and $700 for 580s 🤦🏿♂️ Or $1300+ for a GTX 1080 Ti.... I sort of feel bad for them, but mostly for their families in the cases of people maxing out credit cards or taking loans thinking they could get rich quick without taking a peak at how history repeats itself over and over. I blame all the utubers "How to make $15 a day mining on one gtx 1080 TI!! Print your own monies!" I am glad I did not buy the expensive GTX 1080Ti. I think I can buy them for below $800 in a few weeks. Keep dreaming lol... if this last huge drop wasn't enough to kill the GPU gouging market, not sure it will end any time soon... and overall market if already back up about 40% from the bottom a few days ago. Yes, there is more supply hitting the market now but even the ones that are "only" marked up $100-$150 (newegg & amazon) are gone instantly. The only ones i've seen stick available for more than 1-2 minutes are the $730-ish 1070ti's that came in at B&H. Sorry jokers, Im not paying nearly 50% above retail from a MF'ing retailer lol! but clearly a lot of people are. Dare I say those cards will never ROI? Or maybe in 1+ years IF the market really skyrockets again... a lot of ifs. |
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Lots of cards starting to pop up online second hand!
Still outrageously priced, but i'm sure there will be some bargains soon.
give it a few more weeks, I warned all those fools paying tripple retail price it was a bad idea few people listened. The longer this blood bath lasts the worse it gets for idiots who paid $900 for a 1070 and $700 for 580s 🤦🏿♂️ Or $1300+ for a GTX 1080 Ti.... I sort of feel bad for them, but mostly for their families in the cases of people maxing out credit cards or taking loans thinking they could get rich quick without taking a peak at how history repeats itself over and over. Or... wonder if over-priced GPU purchases are the next thing this myopic banks are going to "protect" their customers from by banning their purchase using credit lol! You know when big biz and governments start banning and restricting things because "they know better", we are all in for some serious troubled times. Bastards... every last one of them! |
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Well, after numerous days of not being able to get any GPU despite being on every auto-notify list known to man, I was able to procure 2 Asus rog-strix 1080 A8G Gaming cards today from an unexpected source. The Employee Purchase store of my employer apparently got some of these and also the 1080ti equivalent in today. This also happened earlier in the week but i missed out on it as I wasn't able to get in within the first 5 minutes. Today i got really lucky as they sent the notice out at like 3pm and most people were already gone for the day i think lol. Cost was $550, which is probably just above regular retail for these but in this market, I snapped up 2 of them pronto. Ideally, was looking for more 1070ti's but i think the only real benefit to those is that they are better on ETH, and I've got this rig mining ZCL anyway so shouldn't matter much. And this will let me finally complete this rig that's been running with only 4 GPUs for 2 weeks lol, so it's all good.
The only slight PITA is that these are 8+6 connectors and I only have single 8-pin PSU cables left. But, I assume 8+6 splitters should be relatively easy to find, so looking for those next. Or... is this even needed? meaning, could i just plug by single 8-pin PSU cable into those GPUs and still have it work fine? I only plan to run these at max 70% anyway, so not real sure if that extra 6-pin is needed or if there is an actual difference power wise in adding a 8+6 adapter when the power is still coming from a single PSU cable.
Those are decent cards what psu do you have for them. I may have cables. I'm running this rig off an EVGA G2 1000w... actually, the exact one that I bought for $100 directly from EVGA a while back per your posting of the deal here (thanks again for that)! I messaged EVGA support yesterday as I've heard that they sometimes support requests like this. I also checked out a custom cable site recommended on the EVGA message boards, but these would cost a ridiculous $17 each plus an insane $20 for shipping! So, $54 for 2 freaking cables lol... I think not! Anyway, yeah... Phil if you or others here have any of those PCIe 8 x 8+6 cable from a G2 i would be happy to pay a fair price for them. I have cable everywhere I will look for 2 of them. May not find them. But I will look. my third rosewill tokamak blew up. this is more complicated . I thought it was rosewill issue I then thought it was mobo issue I now think I was a bad power cable. I am now using a corsair. I hate to return a third rosewill. got refunds on the first two. I swapped mobo . still had issues I swapped psu to corsair still had issues I switch power cords it seems better. Hey Phil... i just heard back from EVGA and looks like they will send me a couple of those PCIe cables for $6 each, so don't worry about looking for them. I have to say that I appreciate them not raking their customers over the coals for extra parts. I was expecting at least $10 but $6 is more than fair. About those Tokamaks Phil... I certainly hope it is not a PSU issue since I have 2 of those in a box waiting to build my 6th and 7th rigs. Seemed like they were pretty solid but you never know i guess. Does seem like your issue could have been the power cord though... |
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Well, after numerous days of not being able to get any GPU despite being on every auto-notify list known to man, I was able to procure 2 Asus rog-strix 1080 A8G Gaming cards today from an unexpected source. The Employee Purchase store of my employer apparently got some of these and also the 1080ti equivalent in today. This also happened earlier in the week but i missed out on it as I wasn't able to get in within the first 5 minutes. Today i got really lucky as they sent the notice out at like 3pm and most people were already gone for the day i think lol. Cost was $550, which is probably just above regular retail for these but in this market, I snapped up 2 of them pronto. Ideally, was looking for more 1070ti's but i think the only real benefit to those is that they are better on ETH, and I've got this rig mining ZCL anyway so shouldn't matter much. And this will let me finally complete this rig that's been running with only 4 GPUs for 2 weeks lol, so it's all good.
The only slight PITA is that these are 8+6 connectors and I only have single 8-pin PSU cables left. But, I assume 8+6 splitters should be relatively easy to find, so looking for those next. Or... is this even needed? meaning, could i just plug by single 8-pin PSU cable into those GPUs and still have it work fine? I only plan to run these at max 70% anyway, so not real sure if that extra 6-pin is needed or if there is an actual difference power wise in adding a 8+6 adapter when the power is still coming from a single PSU cable.
Those are decent cards what psu do you have for them. I may have cables. I'm running this rig off an EVGA G2 1000w... actually, the exact one that I bought for $100 directly from EVGA a while back per your posting of the deal here (thanks again for that)! I messaged EVGA support yesterday as I've heard that they sometimes support requests like this. I also checked out a custom cable site recommended on the EVGA message boards, but these would cost a ridiculous $17 each plus an insane $20 for shipping! So, $54 for 2 freaking cables lol... I think not! Anyway, yeah... Phil if you or others here have any of those PCIe 8 x 8+6 cable from a G2 i would be happy to pay a fair price for them. |
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Well, after numerous days of not being able to get any GPU despite being on every auto-notify list known to man, I was able to procure 2 Asus rog-strix 1080 A8G Gaming cards today from an unexpected source. The Employee Purchase store of my employer apparently got some of these and also the 1080ti equivalent in today. This also happened earlier in the week but i missed out on it as I wasn't able to get in within the first 5 minutes. Today i got really lucky as they sent the notice out at like 3pm and most people were already gone for the day i think lol. Cost was $550, which is probably just above regular retail for these but in this market, I snapped up 2 of them pronto. Ideally, was looking for more 1070ti's but i think the only real benefit to those is that they are better on ETH, and I've got this rig mining ZCL anyway so shouldn't matter much. And this will let me finally complete this rig that's been running with only 4 GPUs for 2 weeks lol, so it's all good.
The only slight PITA is that these are 8+6 connectors and I only have single 8-pin PSU cables left. But, I assume 8+6 splitters should be relatively easy to find, so looking for those next. Or... is this even needed? meaning, could i just plug by single 8-pin PSU cable into those GPUs and still have it work fine? I only plan to run these at max 70% anyway, so not real sure if that extra 6-pin is needed or if there is an actual difference power wise in adding a 8+6 adapter when the power is still coming from a single PSU cable.
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thanks guys, giving a try!
Have you tried re-installing your old AMD drivers? I mistakenly installed this update on 1 of my rigs last weekend and in the process, it installed newer drivers that were rendering my 470's useless. Once I rolled back to the old drivers it works fine now. Granted, I wasted half a day re-installing about 4 times because I forgot that you have to run pixel-patcher after installing any recent AMD drivers, but as long as you run DDU in safe mode, then install your go-to drivers, then run PP, it should work. |
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"best" is really subjective in this case because it is completely dependent upon what your own personal priorities are.
- Safest & Easiest = Coinbase... no-brainer here really. Granted, their fees are high and they report anything over $20K to the IRS, but I have usually got the actually $ in my bank account within 2 days or less... even though they usually say it can take up to a week... but that hasn't been the case with me.
- Quickest & most Anonymous - ideally someone you know and trust that wants to buy your coins directly for fiat. But this has to be a very small # especially if you want to sell a large amount. That leaves serviced like localbitcoins, which can be ok but can also be very risky. Many people may not realize that any localbitcoins transactions done through paypal can be reversed up to 6 months after the transaction. what this means is that even someone with a 100% rating can screw you at any time by filing a dispute on paypal and you will lose your money. Granted, for those wanted to evade tax liability, this is probably the best option, but it's damn risky and I would think twice before you do it.
Certainly, BTC or Altcoin conversion to fiat is a big gap in the market to date. Aside from Coinabse, there are other exchanges that can do it in certain countries, but even many of those are suspect and have had numerous issues. I know there is a lot of red-tape involved with providing this service, but really surprised there is still such a big gap here for options.
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Well... got some pretty good news from the electrician in regards to expanding my house's mining capacity...
Seems it will be easy and relatively cheap ($350) for them to drop 4 20-amp circuits from my breaker box to 4 new outlets directly below it. This would give me a lot more flexibility with my current setup (rigs in 5 different rooms), as well as the ability to more easily expand to at least 7-8 rigs. Each of those 20-amp circuits could take 2 of my current rigs since they only pull about 800W each, so would be well under the recommended max of 2000W per. Then I would just need to plan out how to best distribute my newer 7-8 GPU rigs, but overall, this expansion will make things much easier to manage.
The only downside is that my garage has no natural ventilation and while I can run 1-2 rigs in there from Oct-April/May without it, I will need to come up with a solution for more than 2 and/or in the summer. The electrician seemed to think it would be relatively easy to buy a portable A/C unit and hire someone to drill through my wall to vent it outside. I was originally opposed to this idea but if it's pretty common and easy to do, I would of course consider it. Any of you go this route with your setups?
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