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61  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 02:12:03 PM
Guys, please keep in mind that i'm at work and i'm playing with fire by lurking the forum at this time. I actually got a written warning because of this, so please excuse my absence. Will be back later from home.
62  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
Thanks for being with us again, Steve!
Even in this F* situation I think most of us are still rather calm. We just want more information on what's going on and what's your plan out of this Avalon mess? I did request a refund on my batch #2 order, but that can change if that plan out is viable.

I'm planning on moving to a more efficient chip, such as the Bitfury. Then moving to Knc, then Bitmine, then Terraminer. This is due to October, November, December, January in the same order. The idea is to offer the same power according to the current difficulty. If you've paid for 4.5 GH back in June, now that's worth 10 GH. So i'll offer the 10 GH/s instead of the lousy 4.5 that is not making anything (BTC) anymore.
63  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 01:03:51 PM
I remember the good ol' days when I started mining with two 6970s and the network hashrate was 67 TH. Nowdays it's climbing that amount every 24 hours. Anyway i would also like a refund (pick up the phone Steve!)
Cannot pick up the phone man, i'm driving... But you did get the refund today. Hope to get a beer some time... When i'm not too busy..
64  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 01:01:06 PM
I confirm that I've received the refund for this specific group buy about yesterday night. Cheesy

T13hydra, please confirm the list of users to be refunded with me and I'll try to process this ASAP.

So, as you can read above, batch 1 has been refunded, and i think if you just tell john k to follow the code table in OP regarding batch 1 everything will be ok in a few.
Why let us wait for no reason? Why are you still not confirming the refunds to john k? Makes no sense to me, you could already be out of all this stress just with a PM to John K, taking 5 mins of your time, saving much more.

Please don't wait, everyone is getting stressed from this.
Because as bad as it seems.. it is even worse. But it has a potential of being better. Many of us want to stay in. Hence i cannot and do not want to refund all the table. Only the ones who actually want that refund.
65  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 12:56:14 PM

TOTAL COST IS 11.85000000 BTC
DELIVERY COST IS 0.7 BTC
ADRESS WHERE BITCOINS WILL BE DELIVERED IS : 1PqRPyvYiFMeYe5hT6mSh21zLHxoCcbSDy
If you transaction was on 2013-07-19 10:09:25  It was payed to the webstore address i posted above.

Shortly withdrawn 3 days later to 1Ds63TcXi27RQHXcpEHZSUdAStNPbatpr8 at which point it bounces of several other addressees before disappearing into the ether...

Are we scammed? really?

we should think positive... and optimistic...that is my point of view.
-if steve does not reply monday...or later next day I will call him... and if it does not answer... I`ll ask JohnK for his address and I will pay him a visit... he lives 60km far from me.

Surprise-suprise, he has actually answered his phone! Smiley))
Are you happy? Hope so. Are you being scammed? No. Are you desperate? It sure feels so... I am too.. but i'm going to unload my nerves on the forum. In fact i could start yelling at Yifu right now... But you know what? I won't. Instead, i'll try to find you a way to make profit in this god**mn jungle. Speaking of it, i've already found it. And it freaking works.. Well.. if BitFury actually delivers.
66  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 12:39:32 PM


I don't like the fact that obviously about half of batch 1 wanted refunds and half did not, hence some want chips.

Batch 2 got no refund and now gets to unload chips at half price to batch 1 buyers who got a full refund.

Nice.   Sad




Not entirely true. People don't want chips. They want rigs that can mine Bitcoins. period. Chips can't do the job on their own.

About the second part... what? Why don't you PLEASE check the info you're typing, would you?

Thanks....
67  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 24, 2013, 12:35:27 PM
A comment regarding chips being sent to you would not go amiss either. how do you plan on refunding people if you have used the Btc on chips.
Don't forget those are my own personal chips.. If they are worthless, they are my loss, not yours. Regarding my btc address and the funds going in and out: People are getting refunded. Also passing a list of persons to John for refunds. Don't forget that there are people who don't want a refund, and instead they want rigs made of BitFury chips, the ones that could keep up with the difficulty raise. Thus, no funds were lost, even if the difficulty has raised rendering Avalon chips almost worthless.
68  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 22, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
Hi all,
Sorry but i haven't got time to read all questions since i've posted last time. I know it's my fault, but if a day had 30 hours that wouldn't be enough either..

So, update:
- Both batches were asked for refund. Waiting for John to receive the BTC back. Batch 2 has been refunded and i'm intending to send a voting form for batch 2 people also. (You can ask for a refund or you can ask to invest in something else)
- For the ones that want reinvestment in something else, i've made several "BIG" arrangements to have the hosting option possible. This is why i haven't hot even the slightest chance to post on the forum (besides the fact that if i continue lurking the forum during the day, i'm gonna get fired...)
- There will be a bigger reinvestment in BitFury and KnC miners. These two are delivering the soonest. Discussions are on the way to ensure the delivery of this hardware.
- Working on some numbers regarding the total Hashing power i'm trying to aquire. Rest assured: You may have paid for 4.5 GH/s in Avalon terms, but in Bitfury and other terms this will be an equivalent to >10 GH/s. No funds will be lost.

Will post back later tonight, with more info. Apologies for not answering the forum. I'm resding stuff, i just don't have the time to write back. But i promise i'll make time for communication too.

Regards,
Steve
69  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 09, 2013, 10:14:17 PM
Interesting idea, Plazma. However, i don't really trust Avalon can deliver in October.. anymore.
In other news, chips will be refunded from both batches. Only chips at the moment. Whoever wants to stay in, reinvest in something else, is welcome to stay. Whoever wants out, will be refunded.
More news in the morning, i've got several pages of math to do. I hate to keep you in the dark, but i still need my numbers right.
70  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 09, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
I'd like to say so much on this. but cannot reveal info right now. No good news from Avalon, though, no tracking number, no reply to my e-mail.. Whatever. Let this be the last time I (we) trust them in shipping us something within reasonable time.
Anyway, i may have some good turnaround plans to get us all out of this big pile of sh... shit-uation we are in right now. More info in the evening, i'm still at work right now and it's getting dark..
71  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 12:17:25 PM
My vote depends a lot on if its possible to get a partial refund on the boards ordered or not, and if possible how much. Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but i cant find it anywhere.
It is possible, but not at this moment.

For me the time does not matter for the decision, the amount refundable however does. If close to all refunded I'm voting for refund, if close to nothing for the hosting option. If in the middle i have no idea Wink

Let me clarify that by asking a refund, all the costs of the chips in batch 1 will be fully refunded...

So no refunds for batch 2?

And one more question i am not in neither of batchs i ordered from your website. Is there any chance to refund mine or not? thanks
Website orders qualify for batch 2 since there was still no website in May.. However, you can be refunded by someone else. Lots of people still interested
72  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
My vote depends a lot on if its possible to get a partial refund on the boards ordered or not, and if possible how much. Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but i cant find it anywhere.
It is possible, but not at this moment.

For me the time does not matter for the decision, the amount refundable however does. If close to all refunded I'm voting for refund, if close to nothing for the hosting option. If in the middle i have no idea Wink

Let me clarify that by asking a refund, all the costs of the chips in batch 1 will be fully refunded...
73  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 11:32:09 AM
My vote depends a lot on if its possible to get a partial refund on the boards ordered or not, and if possible how much. Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but i cant find it anywhere.
It is possible, but not at this moment.

If we want you to host our device our shipping cost will be refunded?
Yes
74  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
My vote depends a lot on if its possible to get a partial refund on the boards ordered or not, and if possible how much. Sorry if it has already been mentioned, but i cant find it anywhere.
It is possible, but not at this moment.
75  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 10:25:43 AM
Voting form created in Google Docs. PM sent to every batch 1 customer. This way i can weight the votes against chips owned.

Regards to all....
76  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 10:12:05 AM
Just a thought - since you're planning on starting a mining farm, maybe you would consider converting btc spent on pcb orders into "mining contracts"?
Yes, indeed. The total BTC spent will give shares of the same value. The rest (if there's any) will be refunded to the user.

BTW, i would also like the idea to convert the whole batch1 funds to shares and buy Cointerra machines.. They would cost 10 times less than Avalon chips + board manufacturing... But let's go for the voting for now. See what happens later.
77  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 06, 2013, 08:25:12 AM
Actually.. I'm going to stop the voting option using the poll. I just don't consider the forum tools good enough to fit the purpose. Please4 take the time and vote again, i will create a google docs voting form and share the link..
Sorry for the double work, but it's just what it is..
78  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 05, 2013, 03:46:11 PM
Since the difficulty is rising like crazy and I'm in the second batch (which I belive will be delivered no earlier than late September), it's time to ask again:

Just in case, is any refund possible for the board orders? Anything that wasn't spent yet, maybe like 5 or 10 euro per board? Or is it just zero?
PM sent
79  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 05, 2013, 03:21:39 PM
Hosting updated on the first page too, for the sake of simplicity in finding information.
80  Bitcoin / Group buys / Re: [Closed]Avalon Chips - 0.081 BTC (Global+Escrow)-BATCH2 SECURED on: September 05, 2013, 03:18:21 PM
I'm waiting for more details about the hosting service!
Hosting made possible at several locations here in my town. Cooling made possible with the help and equipment of several of my friends. Net redundancy made possible via two internet providers.

The miners will be assembled and started asap. The gathered BTC will be divided to the members of the GB, exactly between the members who has explicitly voted for this option. The BTC will be proportionally divided based on chip count owned. Electricity costs will be deducted and exchanged into fiat. The costs will have proof (paper bills) and proof of payment (receipts).

In short: who wants chips sent to them, will get chips. Who wants miners will get miners. Who wants hosting, the option to keep their miner at my place without extra cost (for the first 3 months) will receive BTC on a weekly basis. After 3 months, i will take 10% fee in BTC, on a weekly basis. Who wants refunds for their investment will get their BTC refunded. Note that there are many people asking for chips, so you might get the refund from someone else than Avalon. Many people still want in, so they will take your place and you will get refunded.

Let me know if that is detailed enough / Ask any question that is still on your mind.
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