ICO researcher is that a thing now?  |
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@pumpmydump I think you've got your now and to be sure sure just sent another invitation also.
Yes thank you I'm in now, glad to be part of the community and can't wait to see what's coming  |
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Would join if I could get invited, dev didn't reply to my pm
Sorry, was a bit late getting around to sending out some of the invites, you should have had yours by now though. I haven't received anything, neither an invite link nor a pm, it would be simpler if you would just post an invite link so people could join |
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Would join if I could get invited, dev didn't reply to my pm
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When you used the term 'crypto' as shorthand for cryptocurrency, you actually gave a fantastic example of the government going under the radar to demonise one of the greatest gifts maths have ever given to freedom and privacy; cryptography. The ability for every member of society to use services like Telegram to communicate their thoughts and beliefs privately should be something that every government is actively encouraging their people to benefit from. The ability to use PGP/GPG encryption to secure private files should be equally promoted to citizens. But instead we see a steady campaign associating one of the most basic human rights, privacy, with a small handful of criminals who use this privacy against others. Fundamentally this is all about power, control, and in the end survival. Those in power have it easy, and they want to retain that power. But in order to retain power you need to control what's going on around you, your environment. If you want to keep your power but don't know what's going on around you then you're afraid. So those in power are afraid of crypto. Because they are afraid of others. Because people are afraid of each other. Because people want to survive. In fact if you really think about it, from fear stems all suffering. We want to survive but we don't know what's going on in other people's heads, so we're afraid of them. Yet if we all realized that we all want to survive, then we could work together to achieve that. And with a guarantee of survival people would act more rationally, more peacefully. Life seems like a game. There is an easy way to win that game, we all have to trust each other, realize we're all in the same boat and deep down all want the same thing. But we don't want to trust others because we fear others may not trust us. Basically that's what the great spiritual figures in history had realized, Jesus, Gandhi. If we all trusted each other we wouldn't need to fight, we wouldn't need crypto. But maybe crypto is what we need to realize that we don't have to fear each other, that the lack of control won't lead to destruction but to the opposite. |
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Most people on this board are living in a delusion. They are told Bitcoin Cash is taking over but they are not listening, they don't want to listen. And when it becomes obvious that Bitcoin is dead and won't rise back from the dead they will think how could this happen? How didn't we see it coming? Well you were told why it was coming but you didn't listen. The fundamentals of the original Bitcoin are in Bitcoin Cash. Bitcoin with segwit is something else. For many reasons bigger blocks are better than segwit, better at solving the problems Bitcoin was invented to solve, which is why Bitcoin grew in the first place.
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if we don't break through 5k later this week, i'll eat my hat  What do you eat if it doesn't break through 4k again? |
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Guy is on holiday and logged in to let us know he ain't gone awol.
Like I said he is not a scammer but the price rises and falls based on his lack of updates and now even if he logs in or not.
That's a shit place to be, especially when you've backed him with everything you've got and then borrowed even more. At the moment the outcome of my life revolves around scraps of information.
This is why you never go all in on one investment, that's gambling your money, and why you never borrow to go all in on one investment, that's gambling with your life. You should take a look back and assess the situation. How much do you get if you sell all your coins now? How much are you left with if you pay back everything that you owe now? How long can you afford to remain in this situation? What if the OP delivers 3 months for now, 1 year from now, or never? You have a given amount of money invested, is VTR really the best investment for short term returns at the moment considering the OP doesn't give updates? Wouldn't you be better off putting part of that investment in other coins? |
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Most people buying bitcoins nowadays know absolutely nothing about whether it does or doesn't have some type of fundamentals ...
This is the bitcoin market:
You are the worst kind of idiot roach because you know enough to be a danger to yourself and everyone around you but clueless to the limits of your knowledge, unwilling to acknowledge any such limits and brimming with self-conviction in your tiny bubble of wisdom, surrounded by a universe of ignorance that you are in complete denial of. You've totally over-thought this and somehow managed to be smack in the epicenter of intelligence for the biggest bull market humanity has ever known ... and conclusively missed it through your own arrogance. You will go down in history as one of the biggest losers ever, in all sense of the word ... right up there with jstolfi. Buy bitcoins, it really is that simple, even for a fucking dimwitted drooling retard like you. When bitcoin supporters are like you, you know something is wrong. You have no well thought-out reasoning about why bitcoin will "go to the moon", that's just what you want to believe, and you phase out anything that's going contrary. There are many more uncertainties about the bitcoin you hold than you realize. Much more risk about going all in in bitcoin than you realize. Some people will get burnt hard over the next few years. |
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I do agree that even the BTC-E issue could be somewhat bullish. Let's face it, that exchange was operating completely out of any basic regulation.
There's something wrong with this statement - that seems to be applauding the strong arm of government, and likely stealing and loss of user funds because of governmental actions... The fine of $100million on BTC-e is outrageous and exceedingly likely to cause user funds to be used in either defending the actions or paying the fines. I don't know if the situation is bullish - even though silk road ended up being bullish, merely because bitcoin was in a different place at that time, and the death of bitcoin had been greatly exaggerated.. there could be some bullish aspects that could take a large quantity of bitcoins out of circulation for an extended time? There are still lots of people who know very little about bitcoin except that it's used by cybercriminals and it went bankrupt a few years ago when Mt Gox got hacked and all the bitcoins got stolen and the bitcoin CEO got arrested and it's a big scary black box as far as they are concerned. If they hear that the Mt Gox hacker got caught and the good guys are taming the wild beast, it will seem a little bit less scary. Bullish. You are correct that the large majority of regular people who might get into bitcoin do not really know too many particulars, so there could be ways in which BTC-e ends up being more bullish than what would otherwise reasonably be expected. You really believe it is the "regular people" who were suddenly responsible for the 7,000 btc trade volume on bitfinex during the one hour pump? That was just a whale pump. |
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This is going to be all over the news, no way it isn't gonna crash
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Cost of production to mine anything in space will be astronomical so you're wasting my time even mentioning it. You might as well claim we will mine gold inside a black hole or alternate dimension. We would probably attempt to mine metals 2 miles under the ocean long before space but that is of course no threat to anyone buying at current prices.
http://www.planetaryresources.com/http://deepspaceindustries.com/Cost to start mining will be astronomical but so will be the quantities mined. Asteroid mining is not that far away in time. Privatization of space industry is bringing down costs. You don't really know whether the costs will be so high that the market won't be flooded enough to keep the price of precious metals down. Lol, this is complete bullshit and those companies are basically Buttalik Butterin IPO scams. It's such bullshit they can't even create a valid infographic of what said mining would look like. Does this look like something you're going to see anytime soon or even a valid way to mine in the first place? LOL. Let me guess, the structure on the left is a Dyson sphere they're trying to maneuver around the sun to start up the miner (which probably also mines bitcoin at the same time):  That's a futuristic concept art, you don't need that kind of structure to start mining an asteroid, and it's not a Dyson sphere. You don't have to maneuver kilometer long asteroids, small ones will do, there are ones passing close by Earth, you don't have to go to the other side of the Sun or something. It will probably be a couple decades but you shouldn't be so dismissive of it, especially if you're betting all on precious metals |
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Cost of production to mine anything in space will be astronomical so you're wasting my time even mentioning it. You might as well claim we will mine gold inside a black hole or alternate dimension. We would probably attempt to mine metals 2 miles under the ocean long before space but that is of course no threat to anyone buying at current prices.
http://www.planetaryresources.com/http://deepspaceindustries.com/Cost to start mining will be astronomical but so will be the quantities mined. Asteroid mining is not that far away in time. Privatization of space industry is bringing down costs. You don't really know whether the costs will be so high that the market won't be flooded enough to keep the price of precious metals down. |
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Best comment Roger, you wanted big blocks and you're getting them with BCC (8M). Honestly you should support it now instead of waiting for Segwit2x which is 4x less increase. If your logic works both ways, we can expect you to dump all your BCC if the 2x gets adopted.
Am I the only one here who feels you're trying to manipulate users who still trust you with this scam? I feel that he doesn't want Segwit at all, he only supported Segwit2x so Core UASF wouldn't go through. He wants BCC but he doesn't want to go all in on it yet in case it doesn't get enough traction, so he plays along, for now |
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Can't help but love Spoetnik's posts on this forum  I mean it's true that most ICO tokens are fucking useless. The point of a cryptocurrency is to act as a decentralized mean of exchange, of value, of information. And what do we see popping up more and more everywhere? Centralized tokens that just act as unregulated shares in the company of whoever is selling the tokens. What the hell? This is not crypto this is crowdfunding gone crazy, just because you're selling tokens created on a blockchain doesn't mean you're doing crypto, you're just taking money from people and selling them the hope that their tokens will gain value in time if your company becomes successfull. That's just selling shares in an unregulated market. And sometimes it's not even shares and the token is doomed from the start, but people keep buying anyway These bankers and rich fuckers don't even need your money to launch their company, they don't even need a crowdfund, but they do it to get your millions, billions, and then what the fuck do they care if their company doesn't build anything. You do care but they won't, they will have got what they wanted right from the beginning, more money, and if they can find a way to squeeze more out of you they will, but don't count on them to build something revolutionary when they already have all they cared about in the first place. They're selling you hope but the game is rigged against you, they never lose. The more money you give them the less incentive they have to build what they promised you. Cause they don't care about making the world a better place. They don't give a flying fuck about that. |
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Except that after the fork both chains will likely tank in price to the point it would be cheaper to buy BTC+BCC after rather than BTC before
this would have only been true IF BCC had any kind of half decent support from the community. currently it has nearly no support. the only people supporting it is the 1 miner that is behind it, also the pocket behind this, the rest are spamming. and don't confuse this with big blocks versus SegWit debate. this is something very different. this is creating an altcoin without any consensus from bitcoin. The pockets supporting BCC only need a few thousands bitcoins and you will see a big drop on the exchanges (not just them but also other speculators panic selling because of the price going down). If they have more it could get ugly |
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What were the drives behind the April/May rise? I would argue the main one was Bitfinex disabling fiat withdrawals, forcing users to convert their fiat into cryptos to be able to withdraw. At the time Bitfinex was trading $100-$200 over other exchanges and pulling all other exchanges up. We only got to see a slight correction when it reached the ATH at $3,000. Wouldn't you say it was already way overvalued back then? Compared to its use. The main force behind its rise was speculation, not use.
And now we still have uncertainty currently and ahead. Exchanges disabling deposits/withdrawals. Whether Segwit will work fine. The Bitcoin Cash hard fork coming on August 1st. Bitmain's possible hard fork on August 1st.
When most buyers are speculators, the market isn't undervalued, it is overvalued, and has the potential to come crash down hard. Sure long term if bitcoin comes to be a widespread alternative to fiat then the price will be justified, right now it isn't, in the sense that speculators won't hold to their bitcoins if too many of them start selling.
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Except that after the fork both chains will likely tank in price to the point it would be cheaper to buy BTC+BCC after rather than BTC before
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Buy the rumor, sell the news ...
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Has anyone even had a look at the product?
You're all hyping something as the next big thing but you have seen nothing of it, and the devs don't exactly inspire confidence in the way they communicate
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