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601  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Ebay/Paypal's ridiculous fees on: October 21, 2016, 01:24:01 PM
The fees are absolutely ridiculous, in fact it will make a lot more sense that they charged you for listing your product there since in fact that is the service they are offering the opportunity to list your product on their website.

There are many thread and talks about paypal fees and scam attempts. Here we are discussing about ebay fees as well. If anyone do not like services of paypal and ebay.  Just step out from those services and go for the minimum fee services like bitcoin.


This is something that is certainly true. Because paypal is now providing services that are very sensitive so it can interfere with any transactions or activities that occur. So indeed I now and most of the users of the bitcoin waiting places or stores that want to accept bitcoin as payment instruments and certainly gives a very reasonable price
602  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What type of products you would like to buy with Bitcoins? on: October 21, 2016, 01:17:47 PM
I would like to pay for rent, buy food and pay for transport with some kind of a BTC card. But it is really far from that now. I don't use Bitcoin in my everyday life at all. The only thing I do is withdrawing from time to time to get real money I can use in my life. Nevertheless, I am planning to earn Bitcoin and just keep it in the wallet, because it may become extremely popular in 20 years and thus it won't be possible to earn much then.

I think most of the bitcoins users are also wishing the same to use bitcoin in daily life uses but it will take more time to realize this dream. I am also doing the same of converting to fiat currency and full fill my real life expenses.
I just wanna forgetting about the impossible things right now. but considering from a lot of place about the the demand of best selling goods in this time and most wanted goods type in this time the electric goods is always be a best seller today. a lot of demand in every place. it's so far from the daily needs.

Wow, something that could be an advantage for us if it can be done. I think all this happened because it is at least being one person to purchase goods using bitcoin, so now are still very few companies or stores that accept bitcoin because those problems. Looking for a store that's been trusted to accept bitcoin I think is not the best way because it was determined they would not give a response. So, the best way is to provide something that is best for the growth of the bitcoin or find the user as much as possible
603  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: October 21, 2016, 01:12:32 PM
Small local businesses are always interested to accept something that will make their business cheaper, simpler and more afortable and atractive to people. So a good will and patience is needed to explain them how can they improve their business by accepting Bitcoin.

Yeah that's something indeed desired by all entrepreneurs not only small entrepreneurs. However before doing something I think we should be able to think of something that it is possible to happen in the future, for something to do in the absence of a good plan will give results that are less well. Businesses should have to do something than to have planned things concerned with the emotional. It is indeed good to use bitcoin as payment or transaction, but if you can not use the bitcoin perfectly then I think it has not been able to give a good effect
604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 20, 2016, 01:19:44 PM
That is the truth in gambling with just the 50 50 bet. There is not much to show some skill there. It will either be luck or you cheat or they cheat (house).
A game like that is just fun for a little time after all of that it is all madness.

All the craziness that happened in gambling is something that is very bad for us if can not control themselves. So if we want to get something good in the gambling then slowly try to leave a bitcoin or don't think that gambling is the place to look for profits or double the money. So gambling is a very bad place if we minded like that
605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 20, 2016, 01:15:00 PM
to me gambling is totally risky and the only safe method of gambling is to minimize your risk of losing money through limiting your gambling if you fixed a limit and play gambling up to that limit only then you can really minimize your risk of loosing money.

Dont gambling, you can't afford to lose, gambling is risky
I also do not think there is any safe methods to gamble

There is, and for me, playing gambling with small bets can lessen our loses because if we use money that is only intended in gambling I think that is just fine to play because I think even if you lose it will be just fine because that is just the amount that you can afford to lose and you can easily move forward with it.
yeah that's right , only gamble the amount that you can afford to lose and you may could gamble safely , means you wouldn't get hurt, you wouldn't ruin your life etc. by gambling in reasonable limits you have gamble in safe way. and of course when you won it you get a lot benefit more than just fun and profit.
making this practice would allow us to enjoy and avoid us to get attached into addiction, safe in the sense of not ruin our life but in money matters i don't have any good strategy because i keep losing and giving up is the safest thing that i choose,.
that was a wise action , not really often i see or hear about someone who lost in gambling and just surrender . it could be considered as a safe way too to avoid more losses and an addiction of gambling. a methods shouldn't always about a technical , that kind action are a method in my opinion.
I guess we all surrender when we feel that we have no chance to win anymore and we have no resources to use in gambling, but what makes others outstanding is when they were able to give up and accept their defeat at the early stage of gambling, I call them wise as they will not accumulate more loses anymore before quitting.
yeah i mean when you lost at first shot or second shot then you decide just sto stop it immediately before the situation go worse. this kind people aware and have a high control over their own emotion , they gamble with their brain . with this way you could call yourself gamble in safe way.

The consciousness of a person it happens when they already know the things that will happen if they continue it. We do the same with gambling, when we feel or minded will get something a bad thing while doing so then it's an omen that we have to stop gambling and take a break to refresh our minds
606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addict....!!!!! Are you??? on: October 20, 2016, 01:09:06 PM
Everything you say is true friend!!. If indeed you are addicted in gambling, then you should be able to do incredible extras in order to regain a normal life (escape from addiction to gambling). one of the things you can do to control yourself is to ask the help of a psychologist and help the elderly. That's one thing that's been done by my friend who once addicted in gambling
607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 20, 2016, 01:04:13 PM
Bet as if you are ready to loose in case you do will not effect you. Consider it was a fun and entertainment fees you paid for. If you win keep that extra money for your mom-dad birthday anniversary gifts to buy.


If the house let you win with the bigger amount. I highly doubt it will happen I have tried many times betting a larger amount and it all ended up losing it all. The house will always win. Those websites that are bloating everyday wont be like that if they know there is no profit.
That is something we cannot argue, live with it as that is the reality. That house always wins because they created the game, we are here to enjoy and play it strictly for fun, but the moment we got greedy, we lose our patience the same with losing our money.

It's most likely true. But I am sure that all the system built by the House certainly has its disadvantages so that there will be a possibility that we can win in gambling. But all gambling we do wouldn't be able to make us become rich person or a big win, because all the stuff that is in gambling has been set up by the House.
608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the difference between game and gamble? on: October 20, 2016, 12:59:06 PM
As we all know, not all games is a gamble and not all gambles are games. They had many difference and i can only tell some of them. Games are made to be played and to be enjoyed by the players. Games usually are played with rules and it was observed by a referee or an umpire.Gambling is also present in games but almost of the gambling is played by the audience some players also place a bet. Gambling are also played by the gamblers to eran money. Games are played for pride and glory of being the best Cheesy

Yeah what you describe is indeed entirely true. That is clear if we want to get something good then do not ever think that gambling is a good place for gambling made just for fun and not for profit. The game is a good place but if we use it for gambling games something a bad thing
609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what fun in GAMBLING? on: October 20, 2016, 08:59:16 AM
the fun in gambling is losing money...Sad but if you win thats better:)
Loosing money is not fun Tongue but if you keep on playing just to chase what you've lost already then you are having fun loosing them. Yes it's more better if you are winning in game you place bet but sometimes we greedy that much to lose everything in gambling site. But there an exception the fact is your not there just to win profits. Smiley

Lossing money  is not  fun in any way and  all people  would  really feel that. Money is important to us  but  if you are  just  using it  for  entertainment then you would not be worry at all because you are  already awared that your money  would  be  gone in doing such thing.
yes and if we are only playing for just complete fun we re ready to lose
and if we win we will just treated it as a bonus, it should be the way we
use gambling just completely for fun and entertainment.

All gambling is indeed very pleasing to us, but it will not be a good thing if we can't use it properly. As we are greedy in doing gambling or gambling with the brutal way. And I think all the fun that we feel in the gambling because we get a victory. If gambling is just for fun and pleasure then it wouldn't be a problem for life, but if it's already out of the entertainment events or pleasure it will endanger our lives
610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 20, 2016, 08:54:35 AM
I don't think gambling can give you a profit per day like in trading because gambling isn't supposed for a long term earning. Usually you will lose so much money in long term gambling. I prefer to gamble money only for one time in one place, no matter what I got and what I lost.


Yeah it's something very true. All the people who do the gambling will certainly defeat and that's something a reasonable thing or certainly experienced. So everyone will not always benefit. But compared to gambling, trading is much more fun and profitable. Because trading does not give bad effect to us if doing so with a long time
611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 20, 2016, 08:49:35 AM
Bet as if you are ready to loose in case you do will not effect you. Consider it was a fun and entertainment fees you paid for. If you win keep that extra money for your mom-dad birthday anniversary gifts to buy.


All you are saying is something that I think is unprecedented or something ridiculous. the reason is basically gambling is the place where we will get the defeat and will also avoid the major victory. So, if you think that gambling in a manner like that then it will give you something pretty bad. Better think how to exit in gambling than in doing so
612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 20, 2016, 08:44:19 AM
Gambling is just simply fun because you are going to win unexpected if you are going to make it just for entertainment. But there are people who are making gambling as source of income.

And they are having fun with it so we have our each reason why gambling is so much fun. But when you are going to be on a losing streak I don't know if you are going to keep on saying.

That gambling is fun.

But you know what? Some people here find fun in losing that everytime they lose money, their urge to spend keeps on increasing and increasing. I don't know why. Well, just like if you're addicted to illegal drugs, you don't know its benefit, but still, you keep on using it.

Everyone was happy in the gambling because they can get a victory or a profit even though they get a tremendous defeat. Indeed all those who conduct gambling is those who think less well or they just think of the easiest way out but did not see the negative impact of hers
613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice Games Are So Much Fun on: October 20, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
Yes, dice games is really fun, but it's not good for getting profit. Because the provably fair on dice sites is really rigged for me. I never win with much profits in dice sites.
I do not like playing dice that much especially not for a long time because I think that it gets a bit boring real quick, I would rather play slots or roulette.
Those are my go to gambling games if I am ever gambling.

It is up to what you like in gambling or games which can give advantages to you. But it all won't give you something fun if you think that the game is the place to look for profits or double the money you have. because if you do then your mind is already not doing well so thought every game you do are always fixed on the material
614  Other / Off-topic / Re: Complete the sentence... "I would sell all my Bitcoins if..." on: October 19, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
I would sell all my Bitcoins if the price skyrockets. I think the majority of us will panic selling if one day we wake up and the price of Bitcoin is pumping a lot. Some may wait for the best moment but I'll probably don't do that and just sell right away. I don't want to lose the opportunity of selling in a much higher price than when I obtained my coins. My coin isn't that much so even if I don't sell it in the highest amount possible, it's okay because there would be not that much difference.

No one will prefer to hold their coins if price reaches to the moon and allowing to make profits, as everyone is investing their money in it so that they can make profits someday as only holding will never give you profits.

Well it's indeed something reasonable thing we get or feel. So this is something that certainly we will do if the price of the bitcoin is very high or can give us an advantage. But it would be better we just sold some bitcoin we have, so if indeed you do something things do not directly do so as a whole (especially for bitcoin or finance) because it can give bad effect
615  Other / Archival / Re: Do you have paypal account even though you have bitcoin? on: October 19, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
i have both, paypal and bitcoin but i think my paypal account need to be renew in vcc because i remember that when i need to verify my paypal account, i use vcc to be verified.

It's something that might be one of the problems if you do not verify or repeated renewal against VCC you use. PayPal are indeed provide exceptional comfort in a member joining therein, but paypal too sensitive to every thing is not necessarily being a problem for the owner of the account. So if we compare with bitcoin, then I prefer the bitcoin on everything. Because in addition to all transactions can be monitored I also get the same security with paypal and the most special is the great advantage I get in it
616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: how strong is bitcoin really? on: October 19, 2016, 01:28:07 PM
We know that bitcoin is strong and all the wallets have milletry grade security but one of my stupid friend today said that maybe someone can hack it with just a calculater because with math and correct formulas we can even predict gambling bets if that is possible then maybe there is any chance of this
Thats impossible that we can just calculate it using calculator even you have many formula you can not get break bitcoin unless if you monitored the whole blockchain and you have some high hacking tools or even manually using linux but i think its impossible right now because bitcoin has high security and they dont let hackers to monitor they tracks.
Bitcoins are really sdtrong you dont know much about the bitcoin when you dont ask that because the bitcoin are used for allot of things in this world and you think
he is going to die but he wont die for sure!!

Yeah indeed what you say could be true. But it's all also depends on the situation that will occur in the future, because we won't know what will happen in the future. Better think how to become rich in the bitcoin or how to be able to get a lot of bitcoin to benefit greatly. So, this world is difficult to understand if you've always thought about
617  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is any new way here to earn bitcoin very fast? on: October 19, 2016, 01:23:11 PM
As we all know that to earn the bitcoin in these ways like....
1. Trading
2. Investment
3. Gambling
Anybody know that anymore way is here to earn the bitcoin very fast?
But in my view, only 3 ways are best to earn the bitcoin and not more way is here.

The very first thing i noticed about this thread was that a Sr. member is asking a newbie type of question  Grin
Well i would suggest not to gamble as that will eat up your capital without letting you know, and there is actually no new ways of earning a lot of bitcoins at once, work for it and you will get it in your wallet.

Yeah, i noticed that you are also Sr. Member and you are replying like a Newbie Grin
About the OP, i think these are already best ways so no need to search a new way, and the talk of faster way to earn bitcoin, you should believe on yourself and do your work hard and your hard working always give you reward.

4. scaming
5. escrow service
6. promotions
7. searching service topics for jobs
8. account farming
9. signature campaigns with multiple accounts as a daily job
10. buying stuff from ebay, amazon for people, who can't/don't have fiat, taking 10% as a tax/fee
..

There's really a lot of stuff you can do, but not all are just sitting at a pc and doing almost nothing. You just have to make your own business and money and there is no "fast" way of earning something (maybe scamming). Well your view may be wrong?

Amazing, i think you know very well about bitcoin, because these are short work but if anyone done it than its mean they have a lot of earning ways, but as i know everyone can't do it, but your 7 and 9 points are help us to earn.
Also i am sure bitcoin give us a normalastically ways of earning, and i realize on way is here which call you a fast earning way of bitcoin.

Almost all of people here knows that not including those newbie's but the true facts in their is even you do the methods who's been mentioned but still you really need to work for it to see some good result, and theirs no really easy way to earn btc or even physical cash since all of use surely gonna face some bit struggles for having it, but surely the taste is sweeter when we see in our wallets the result of our hardworks.

Exactly, if you try to earn them with honest efforts and once you get results from it then that would be the best feeling to have and its never easy to earn them fast as it needs hard work and dedication.

It is indeed an honest effort essentially would give something a very good thing and will also give the feeling we get better than doing business in which we do so is dishonest. So, many things in this forum could be the place to get you the bitcoin, keep learning and trying big things because something can not be achieved just by curiosity in the absence of a clear action
618  Other / Off-topic / Re: Are you buying bitcoins? Why? on: October 19, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
I'm buying bitcoins for the profit I can make with it, I find the the profit the important thing about the bitcoin, you can easily gain a lot of money by it.
I think if you buy them you can already sell them a week later with profit if the week is good of course but that's unpredictable.
Yes, you should buy bitcoins these days as their value is just normal. This year it will likely to boost more than 100% and
touch the 1000$ mark. We can get lots of profit if we buy in these days.

Yes, right thing to do, buy at a moment and hold it for next couple of months, as the price is not too high at a moment and we can afford to buy, so buy now and sell after halving.
The reason why i am buying Bitcoin is because it helps me to save money and make some extra money at the same time and that is just to handy.
I also sometimes buy some games at steam but those are the only to things why I have Bitcoin.

A statement is very true. That if we don't do this, then we will not get something lucrative in the bitcoin. bitcoin can be used in addition to the transaction. Bitcoin can also be used for long-term investments and short-term, so if we buy a bitcoin then all the benefits we can get and that is not necessarily available elsewhere
619  Other / Off-topic / Re: When was the first time you bought bitcoin? on: October 19, 2016, 08:24:26 AM
i am not remember when the last time i make deposit to buy bitcoin, but in last three month, i think i don't make any deposit in money but i only make withdraw for some bitcoin into cash.

Actually it's something that doesn't need to be remembered, because indeed I think this thread was made to find out how many people are enthusiastic in making a deposit in the bitcoin and they might be doing a research for can do well promotion about bitcoin. If I see you have some pretty good talent in using bitcoin, give great energy again in order to get good results
620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think bitcoin is one new step for sucess. on: October 19, 2016, 08:19:17 AM
bitcoin can be a new step for success and i think in out there many people have to proof it and we don't know about it. i wish i can make and follow people that having success with bitcoin too.

Success is indeed derived from something that could provide clues to success. But if we can't do anything in it (bitcoin) then the success is only a dream that adorn the mind or imagination. So, if you want to succeed in the bitcoin then you should learn how does bitcoin. Because it will help you to understand the bitcoin and finally know what you should do
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