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601  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bad incentives (Mt gox) on: February 20, 2014, 05:43:59 PM
Deposits are working, but delayed. I just asked them how long it is taking.
602  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Private Investigator needed to find out where is Mark Karpeles on: February 20, 2014, 05:33:41 PM
I think the issue is getting serious, someone if not able to pay a lawyer should look for local japanese authorities, police and porsecutors. That London guy who is already there could do it. If anyone has his contact....
603  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do you panic sell into MtGox manipulation? on: February 20, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
And even considering speculation, the current price can't be explained by offer and demand either, people are just paying what is asked believing it will go higher and higher forever.
604  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A serious proposal for a replacement non-profitable elected Bitcoin Foundation on: February 20, 2014, 05:15:55 PM
I am a candidate.
605  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do you panic sell into MtGox manipulation? on: February 20, 2014, 05:13:11 PM
If people were any rational they would not be paying hundreds of dollars for one bitcoin

How much should they be paying?

Like any currency Bitcoin can only be worth as much as non speculative market is worth. How many dollars(under bitcoins) are being daily spent in non speculative market? How many bitcoins are available? In such case there is not even shortage for offer and demand value increase. So divide the dollar by bitcoins available and you will get a very low value.

Yes, speculation alters the price of any currency, but it is not real value, once speculation is gone, value is gone too.
606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do you panic sell into MtGox manipulation? on: February 20, 2014, 04:29:42 PM
If people were any rational they would not be paying hundreds of dollars for one bitcoin
607  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: mt gox update ? that cannot really be what we r waiting for? on: February 20, 2014, 12:55:41 PM
While i find the situation very suspect, i'm willing to risk a high amount of money on mtgox. But i don't have a verified account there and i have no paper residency proof with me. While everyone is desperanting to run away from it , i'm a bit desperate on verifying my account there.
So you're basically a gambler, right now whether Gox runs with the money or not is a coin toss.

Why it is a coinloss if they don't run?.
608  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Gox is now blaming protestors for holding up FIAT and BTC on: February 20, 2014, 12:53:06 PM
I for one dont understand the protesters. To be honest there is nothing they can gain from going there, only incur extra losses for paying for travel (say london to Japan costs a bit)

It's not like the company is public and they have shares in it, it's private. Instead of wasting their time up there they should review their legal options.

Probably all or most of their savings are there, and they got desperate. Not rational but easy to understand. I would have paid a lawyer intead of spending with trips.
609  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: mt gox update ? that cannot really be what we r waiting for? on: February 20, 2014, 12:42:59 PM
While i find the situation very suspect, i'm willing to risk a high amount of money on mtgox. But i don't have a verified account there and i have no paper residency proof with me. While everyone is desperanting to run away from it , i'm a bit desperate on verifying my account there.
610  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is btc-arbs.net legit? They are claiming to make you interest on deposits... on: February 20, 2014, 02:17:06 AM
Scam

"Can we visit your offices?

In order to keep costs low, we generally do not invite members of the general public to visit our offices. However, VIP investors are invited to our monthly office cocktail parties in Geneva."
611  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: NEWS: MtGox resuming withdrawals on: February 19, 2014, 07:33:51 PM
FRAUD sounds correct
612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Money Laundering on: February 19, 2014, 03:05:08 PM
Bitcoin does not even have enough volume for money laundering, i doubt any is going on at least in a significant level.
But fact is, Bitcoins are used in drug and other tradings of illicit products or services and only in such illegal markets it has significant volume of transactions.  
613  Economy / Economics / Re: Are bitcoin exchange prices being manipulated? on: February 19, 2014, 05:22:52 AM
What i don't understand is how other exchanges are not affected by MtGox, MtGox is a big player. The overall rate can't be immune to Gox rate and its sevral consequences in the market.

614  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Millionaires on: February 19, 2014, 05:05:18 AM
officially a millionary is one who owns one million dollars
615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is A joke and will never last. on: February 19, 2014, 12:49:07 AM
What about lost coins?

Lost coins can't be recovered, in the long term a huge amount will be lost, maybe all of them in the really long term.

616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ME.TOO :: descendant of NXT - 4 billion coins on: February 18, 2014, 01:03:08 PM
me too
617  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin before 2011 - how did you get involved on: February 18, 2014, 12:46:12 PM
I found it in 2009 'cause i'm always thru' tech news, but to me that was just a toy...I tried to mine for fun, but it was complex for fun purposes
618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beware the Middleman: Empirical Analysis of Bitcoin-Exchange Risk on: February 18, 2014, 01:48:29 AM
localbitcoins have a middle men, possible in person transactions are not significative nor efficient
619  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Beware the Middleman: Empirical Analysis of Bitcoin-Exchange Risk on: February 18, 2014, 01:04:57 AM
it is unsafe really, very unsafe. but there is no option if you really want to deal with bitcoin
620  Economy / Speculation / Re: What Just Happened to Bitcoin? on: February 18, 2014, 12:04:47 AM
It will go all the way down, 'cause nothing valid brought it up.
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