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601  Economy / Economics / Re: Most people dont even know what this is yet. on: August 29, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
I have told the bitcoin story to some people already, but none of them is really interested.
I guess to many people that is just some kind of smalltalk, they forget it immediatelly again.
After a few days I can tell them the whole story again and it seems to be completely new to them...
Maybe I am just a lousy narrator...

But I think it is the same when people hear about it in news and media.
The term bitcoin is stuck in their heads just for a few moments, and then overwritten by something else.
they are not interested because maybe they don't interact with it. yeah, who need blockchain, who need decentralized system, i still can eat without it.
Tell them about the price or tell they can rich by holding it or show car you bought with bitcoin then maybe they will start listening you Grin
602  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading altcoin and holding bitcoin which one is more profitable? on: August 29, 2017, 05:40:05 PM
Holdiing your bitcoin seems to be more profitable by the day. Trading does not guarantee profits and can be very stressful. That said, there were times you had to beg people to accept your bitcoins, not anymore.
no no, trading is more profitable than holding. holding isn't more profitable method but it is MORE SAFE to get profit. Trading doesn't always guarantee profit and that rule goes same to holding, except if you hold for years (waiting the price for reach $10K, $100K, $1M). But it still better to grow your bitcoin amount by trading it
603  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin Hunter VS Adsense on: August 29, 2017, 07:38:55 AM
Keduanya menurut saya bisnis yang sama sama menjanjikan. Tapi emang bener sekarang ini kalau mau memulai adsense tidaklah mudah. sudah terlalu banyak saingan. Trik update terus dll. harus bisa ikuti perkembangan. sudah coba di Adsense ga setimpal sama pengorbanan
sudah berat gan sekarang mah cari duit lewat gituan. secara dulu orang jarang yang tau soal blog/sejenisnya, tapi sekarang malah sudah ada vlog, sudah pada tau cari duit lewat yutub/adsense.
Ya intinya sudah terlalu banyak saingan. mendingan cari Bitcoin/ngetrade, gk terbebani dengan update blog tapi duit tetep masuk.

adsense tidak pakai persaingan gan, jika memang yakin akan kualitas dan keunikan konten pribadi, trafik datang dengan sendirinya tanpa melihat kompetitor, keduanya sama2 menghasilkan dan bahkan jika target konten kesehatan secara konsisten dalam sebulan agan bisa dapat ratusan juta, perbedaan dengan bitcoin memang jelas dimana bitcoin lebih visible dan dapat dikalkulasi secara cepat, sedangkan adsense seperti kita buka pameran dan berharap banyak pengunjung yang tertarik.
adsense nya emang gk ada persaingan, tapi konten blognya. sekarang ane makin susah cari ide post di blog, udah pada ditulis duluan sama yg lain. Btw trafik dateng sendiri itu kalau sudah entah berapa bulan, harus ngerti SEO kalau mau dateng cepet mah.
Istilahnya kalau jualan ngandelin kualitas doang ya gk maksimal, harus bisa pemasaran juga.
Ya kalau agan bisa tekun mau kerja keras mungkin bisa ngasilin gede dari adsense, tapi karena ane orangnya kurang tekun gampang bosen ya ane pilih bitcoin adj. Toh hasilnya sama, bahkan bisa lebih gede
604  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin Hunter VS Adsense on: August 28, 2017, 08:27:30 PM
Keduanya menurut saya bisnis yang sama sama menjanjikan. Tapi emang bener sekarang ini kalau mau memulai adsense tidaklah mudah. sudah terlalu banyak saingan. Trik update terus dll. harus bisa ikuti perkembangan. sudah coba di Adsense ga setimpal sama pengorbanan
sudah berat gan sekarang mah cari duit lewat gituan. secara dulu orang jarang yang tau soal blog/sejenisnya, tapi sekarang malah sudah ada vlog, sudah pada tau cari duit lewat yutub/adsense.
Ya intinya sudah terlalu banyak saingan. mendingan cari Bitcoin/ngetrade, gk terbebani dengan update blog tapi duit tetep masuk.
605  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah anda sudah puas dan bahagia dengan semua bitcoin yang dimiliki sekarang ? on: August 28, 2017, 08:14:11 PM
   kalau ane belum bahagia sih Gan.. apa lagi puas , karena untuk mendapatkan 1 bitcoin aja susah .
tapi ane ttap optimis Gan untuk mendapatkan BTC yg banyak dengan bekerja keras dan sungguh2 .
kan bisa jadi simpenan buat belanja istri muda nanti   Grin Cool
hehehe kadang suka ketawa nih baca reply orang2 indo, asal jangan lupakan istri tua gan Grin dapetin 1 BTC bisa pake trading altcoin gan atau invest di ico, tapi ya modal kudu gede juga
606  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think that in near future BTC would be connected with mobile number? on: August 28, 2017, 06:18:13 PM
Why we need mobile number? A wallet and bitcoin address are enough to make bitcoin transaction. why we need mobile number?
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The most undervalued crypto? on: August 28, 2017, 08:44:33 AM
There is no undervalued, as we all know cryptos get their values based on the demand and the supply for it so you shouldnt say the crypto is undervalued its just not being demanded for
we talk something about potential here. there is potential good coin but the price still too low comparing to it's intrinsic value.
There are many undervalued coin but i don't know what is the most. maybe it is litecoin
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEW XBY ANN] XTRABYTES - INTEGRATIVE MODULAR BLOCKCHAIN INNOVATIONS on: August 27, 2017, 05:41:47 PM
Many people have been saying it for a long time, be patient and have faith in the tech  Cheesy
Looks like that's finally coming true
because the best isn't created in one night Wink but this is too fast i don't have any btc for buying more XtraBYtes.
However of course this (testnet, price and other new stuff) is good thing we have waiting this for months.
609  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana strategi trading anda? on: August 27, 2017, 05:21:10 PM
soalnya ane udah ngalamin gan, koinnya naek sampe 200x, sayangnya ane jual setengah pas masih ditengah jalan. Mau ane jual lagi yg setengah udah ketinggalan, keburu turun lagi. Lagian makin kesini developmentnya makin bagus, jadi ane fokus nimbun karna ane yakin bakal naek lebih tinggi, wuzzzz..
trading gak baca chart garis macem2 juga bisa profit sekarung asalkan punya mata banyak kuping banyak Grin
wah ngeri juga gan. walaupun coin itu bagus tapi gak ada jaminan juga dia bakal naik. ada juga coin bagus yang drop nya jatuh banget jadi jantungan lihatnya. ya kalo kita dapat gratis dari bounty sih gak terlalu rugi. nah kalo kita invest dari modal sendiri agak takut juga gan.
developmentnya gan Wink ane ngikutin ini koin dari dia lahir. Lagian yang namanya koin bagus itu pasti bagus, mau turun juga dia naik lagi. kita tinggal liat aja koinnya kyk gimana, devnya siapa, roadmap, progress, yang baru/bikin beda, kondisi marketnya, tar dari situ keliatan koin yg cocok buat di hodl/invest.
Buat ane sbg swing trader harga jeblok juga gk masalah yg penting dah tau itu koin bagus
610  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana strategi trading anda? on: August 27, 2017, 04:20:43 PM

nah ini yang penting. Ane juga suka pilih koin yg bagus. ane beli koin ecek-ecek suka loss, kurang pinter teknikal, jadi ane cari aman ae trading koin yg bagus/jelas.

Kalau tradingnya ane pake cara swing, cocok buat trader fundamental/campuran, bisa menyesuaikan keadaan juga. Terus ane pilih koin bagus yg murah (<1000 sat), kalau naek multiply nya gede. atau koin yang mau ada update.
Selain itu paling maen pingpong order di market yg stabil, kyk doge-usd
nah sama gan. ngincer currency atau token yang bagus tapi paling anjlok. trus sell long term di harga tertinggi yang memungkinkan. biasanya untung bisa sampe puluhan kali lipat. banyak tuh currency,asset ataupun token bagus yang sedang anjlok di market2 exchange.
soalnya ane udah ngalamin gan, koinnya naek sampe 200x, sayangnya ane jual setengah pas masih ditengah jalan. Mau ane jual lagi yg setengah udah ketinggalan, keburu turun lagi. Lagian makin kesini developmentnya makin bagus, jadi ane fokus nimbun karna ane yakin bakal naek lebih tinggi, wuzzzz..
trading gak baca chart garis macem2 juga bisa profit sekarung asalkan punya mata banyak kuping banyak Grin
611  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: bagaimana strategi trading anda? on: August 27, 2017, 03:53:18 PM
Kalo ane belajar dr pengalaman selama ini, sebelum membeli altcoin ane cari dan pelajari dulu fundamentalnya yang meliputi team founder yg solid dan tujuan project krn menurut ane ini yg penting bagi keberhasilan suatu project. Dan setelah benar2 mengetahui dan memahami projectnya barulah ane beli untuk di tradingkan. Dan ane lebih suka day trading dngan maksimal hold 1 minggu, setelah itu baru ane pake analisa teknikal untuk buy back ato out dr coin itu.
Hal lain untuk mengetahui keberhasilan project adalah ketika hari pertama masuk market volume transaksi sudah di atas $1 juta.
nah ini yang penting. Ane juga suka pilih koin yg bagus. ane beli koin ecek-ecek suka loss, kurang pinter teknikal, jadi ane cari aman ae trading koin yg bagus/jelas.

Kalau tradingnya ane pake cara swing, cocok buat trader fundamental/campuran, bisa menyesuaikan keadaan juga. Terus ane pilih koin bagus yg murah (<1000 sat), kalau naek multiply nya gede. atau koin yang mau ada update.
Selain itu paling maen pingpong order di market yg stabil, kyk doge-usd
612  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade or Hodling on: August 27, 2017, 11:50:58 AM
I would just like to hear your opinions, Which is more profitable, Day Trading where you can profit through buying the dips and selling when it pumps repeatedly, or Long term HODLing where you buy the dip and only sell it when it goes up 5 to 10 times its price value?


Day trading is dangerous if you do not have a big money. It was like day trading stocks. You have to spend a lot of money trading everyday before you master it.
I recommend swing trading unlike day trading it was easy to master. Just read a book about it then you can swing trade. Swing trading is where you trade BTC or any coin but you were holding for a few day or weeks then sell after a certain profit or to minimizr loses.
Also for holding BTC or any other coin was good however you have know when to cut loses.  


this is what i do. buying some good altcoins when they're down, wait for days/1-2 weeks, then sell when the price going up. I'm not expert at technical analysis for doing day trade and i'm not patience enough for waiting coin price multiplied to 5-10 times.

A good strategy especially for newbies want to learn trading or when you buy a good coin at high price
613  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Things All traders should Do on: August 26, 2017, 06:01:20 PM
Yeah, its true.Most people trade based o emotions. When the price of the coin they goes a little down, they get scared and start selling it without knowing its worth.They should follow patience while trading

i still hard to managing my emotions. Down price isn't problem for me, but greed makes me lost the moment to sell. Then i must wait again for next pump. My advice: "don't be greedy, 10% profit is enough"
LOL, with other market, earn 1% per day is good profit. Why you want earning more profit while you can loss a lot of money anytime? In my opinion, the bubble and volatility of cryptocurrency market has make most trader have thought get rich fast.
oh that number is, something like example. I mean small profit is enough, you still gain profit even if only 0.5% .
You know, for some trader with a little money, 1% is too small
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 1 BCH = 1 BTC before end of august? on: August 26, 2017, 10:06:56 AM
Honestly i don't believe that's possible even in the far future. I don't expect it to reach anywhere near BTC. I'm sorry my friend but it doesn't even the potential.

still too young, not enough support, and comparing other factor with Bitcoin, that's all lead to two words: near impossible.
All hail Bitcoin!
615  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5 Things All traders should Do on: August 25, 2017, 11:56:38 AM
Yeah, its true.Most people trade based o emotions. When the price of the coin they goes a little down, they get scared and start selling it without knowing its worth.They should follow patience while trading

i still hard to managing my emotions. Down price isn't problem for me, but greed makes me lost the moment to sell. Then i must wait again for next pump. My advice: "don't be greedy, 10% profit is enough"
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Neverdie coin? on: August 24, 2017, 08:33:05 AM
What do you know about neverdie coin? How much the price will become (next month, next 2 months) ?
617  Economy / Services / Re: Social Signature & Avatar Campaign(full) on: August 23, 2017, 11:46:18 PM
Thank you sir, payment received
618  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Poll: Agan-agan Disini Melihat Bitcoin Sebagai Apa? on: August 23, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
Setelah ane melihat sebuah trit yang nyuruh orang jangan pernah ngejual Bitcoin, ane jadi tertarik mengetahui bagaimana pandangan agan-agan disini terhadap Bitcoin. Hasil poll bakal ane jadiin bahan post di blog. Jadi menurut agan, bitcoin itu apa?
*Update: ane banyak liat agan sini justru reply tentang bitcointalk, sorry gan disini ane bahas Bitcoin bukan forumnya. Okey lanjut
*Update: voting sudah selesai, tapi bagi agan yang mau masih reply ane persilakan
gan saya masih nuwbie maunanya nih sebenarnya klo udah sampai ke tingkatan  jr.member .itukan udah bisa dpt duwit yg saya tanyakan modal utama kita itu apa dan kerjaan seorang jr itu apako bisa dpt dueit sebegitu besar.makasih
kalau sudah tingkat junior member keatas, agan sudah bisa ikutan bounty/signature campaign, macam promosi gitu gan. kalau newbie jarang yg terima. soal tugas kerjaannya apa udah ada di postnya yg ngadain bounty
619  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Pump and dumpers. on: August 22, 2017, 08:21:41 PM
You made my day, LOL  Grin

Without usual price swing we can't earn anything in day trading from crypto so all those pump and dump is necessary for healthy and active trading market.

Why the one who sell on peak price and buy on dumps should be considered as criminal  Roll Eyes Money should flow from weak hand to stronger one, not all trader will make profit from trading. Grin
i sure without PnD many people won't make profit. Beside that, i think PnD is a natural process in trading. some (or many?) people going trade because they want to purely make profit, they won't care about coin reputation or real value. they will do whatever to make profit, trading is about making money, it's all about money.
If you can't manage it, you'll get stung. If you can manage it, you'll get the honey
620  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Poloniex atau VIP Bitcoin ? on: August 22, 2017, 11:18:58 AM
Polo Cuman 0.0001(10K Satoshi) Fee WD(Bisa Pake Bitpay,PAyment Via Luno,Bitbayar)
Kelemahan Polo:Support Lemot
                       Masalah Depo Dan WD
                       Depo ETH Dan ETC Minimal 1 ETH
                       Fee ETH Yg Gede Banget
Kelebihan:Support Banyak Coin
               Volume Gede(Cocok Buat Maen Ping-Pong)
               Kalo VIP Ane Belom Pernah Nyobak
nah, kalo di polo sekalian bisa buat gandain btcnya, kalau bisa trade. Ane dulu pernah pake VIP tapi karena altcoinnya dikit jadi gak seru Grin
"Kalau Bisa"
VIP Kayaknya Enak Gk Ada Feenya Untuk Altcoin
Tapi WD Feenya Tinggi Angry
BTW VIP Kayaknya Gk Bisa Pingpong Karena Volumenya Dikit
iya lah pan banyakan trading di polo daripada vip. yang jelas ane sih lebih asik trading ditempat yang banyak altcoinnya, lebih banyak peluang opitnya
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