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601  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 15, 2016, 10:59:46 AM
What do you think is the common sentiment? Is everyone and their mother going to dump on Dec. 28 because they need liquidity to invest into ICNX/ICNP or do you think it will pump since it's the release of the platform and Iconomi pretty much starts working from that point on? Would like to hear some opinions.

Only ICNX will be available for investing. ICNP has enough funds for now. When Iconomi will need to further seed ICNP they will ask for ICO participants first.
Selling ICN in order to buy into ICNX is as stupid as it gets
602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 05:23:25 PM
It does look like i would have to spend more than 200 USD to buy 1K of ICN, I'm so far lucky to have 4k still in my account. If that $3 happens, i still can profit a bit but it would be best to receive dividends still.

don't count on too much dividends for 4K ICN
603  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
i need to wake up with dream like this at christmas  Grin



not before OFM is running for some time
Yes, I definitely agree with you.But it's a nice dream.  Wink
Indeed. Think what dreams we will have next Christmas..
604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 05:03:58 PM
Bullish trend is building up  Smiley
Next target 0.00050


Did I hear someone say...$10 ?



technically speaking, he is not winking


It's a double wink.

OK, I'll buy it. Double wink it is
605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 05:03:16 PM
i need to wake up with dream like this at christmas  Grin



not before OFM is running for some time
606  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 11:59:01 AM
Bullish trend is building up  Smiley
Next target 0.00050


Did I hear someone say...$10 ?



technically speaking, he is not winking
607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 11:57:54 AM

You ever think maybe they are waiting for ICNX token to be launched, then exchanges can list ICN and ICNX at the same time?

It has only been 6 weeks since ICN launched on October 25

ICNX token has been known to be coming since the whitepaper.  If I was a major exchange, I would think: "might as well just wait 2 months and list ICN+ICNX at the same time, instead of going through the process twice"

You made a really good point there.

There is not going to be an icnx "token" or correct me if i am wrong with e link of a webpage..

https://ico.iconomi.net/about-icnx-index

https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf

Quote
Each ICONOMI investment fund will issue its own tokens. CTFs will be offered to all major exchanges, therefore expect them to be found (traded) there. CMFs will be tradable only within ICONOMI.

CTF = iconomi.index (ICNX): tokens freely traded
CMF = iconomi.performance (ICNP): tokens traded only within Iconomi platform

Most exchanges have probably been waiting to list both ICN & ICNX tokens simultaneously

can you post again that one of yours with the tomb and thank you weak hands November 2016?
I want to keep it and use it when we reach $1. and then again all the way up to 7-9
608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 09:57:37 AM
Poloniex & Bittrex will add ICN after the ICONOMI funds platform launches on December 28.
Smart traders are buying quietly on Kraken & Liqui before ICN reaches the big exchanges.

Any sources? I find no info about your claim, please don't post fake news to fool investors, it is negative to this legit project, I don't wanna see people get hurt because of fake news.
If iconomi, would add trade in polo and bittrex why not from the start of the launch, I think, only the false news of the team simply want to increase the popularity of iconomi, much to the disappointment of the project is not public but investors also I think the same with it. ,

What? I understood none of that.

I will translate: "I am a small girl cry baby that wants ICN on polo so I can dump. Since I am a smart day-trader, I know that the team is preventing polo from listing it.

TL;DR: same old whining crap about polo

Kraken is not available in few US states, including New York: http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york
Therefore Iconomi investors in New York can only trade on Liqui.
Perhaps if you lived in New York, you'd change your tone against people asking for other major exchanges.
And perhaps, you'll stop being selfish and ask Devs to deliver on their promise during ICO that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".

Why do u think that the devs are preventing polo from listing it? You know it is polo decision,right?
Why don't you cry about this on polo communication channels?
Posting the same over and over here won't help
You want it on polo - go talk with polo. It is as simple as that.


It's clear Devs have an exclusive listing deal with Kraken.
Poloniex & Bittrex are left in the dark on the legal status of ICONOMI, that's why they haven't listed ICN yet, they can't do anything because of NDAs.
ICONOMI's legal team is not bothering to work with Poloniex & Bittrex, to ensure their exclusive listing deal with Kraken.



Can you really be so dumb? Do you have any idea how many people Tim and Jani met, and how many pictures like that one they have uploaded?
polo and bittrex are on the dark on the legal status... hmmm so you think that Kraken added ICN few months ago mostly because they got updated from Iconomi on the legal status??

If you are a trader - go fuckin trade the dips on Kraken. You could made 3x already. Even more.
If you are an investor - wait until the product is released!

otherwise you are just a whining whore


He is right though and you know it. They have not delivered in relation to the exchanges. I know you are on their payroll / getting hand jobs from Tim and jani but just admit they have not delivered. You appear ridiculous denying it and calling him a whore. You do realise how pathetic that makes you look, right? You are so one eyed for this project and being a pole you probably only own 2k icn. Go to the uk and get a job there cleaning their shit up and you might make a better life for yourself. Maybe buy a few more icn then. Whore.
another cry baby troll. I am not on any type of payroll from Iconomi, I get my handjobs from my girlfriend. By the way you write, it seems like you need to unload some pressure.

If you'd bother take your head from your ass and read the questions I post on Reddit you would see that I am nothing like one eyed on the project. One eyed are all those "when polo" cry babies like yourself

2k ICN? Yeah, right
More of the top 50
609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Poloniex & Bittrex will add ICN after the ICONOMI funds platform launches on December 28.
Smart traders are buying quietly on Kraken & Liqui before ICN reaches the big exchanges.

Any sources? I find no info about your claim, please don't post fake news to fool investors, it is negative to this legit project, I don't wanna see people get hurt because of fake news.
If iconomi, would add trade in polo and bittrex why not from the start of the launch, I think, only the false news of the team simply want to increase the popularity of iconomi, much to the disappointment of the project is not public but investors also I think the same with it. ,

What? I understood none of that.

I will translate: "I am a small girl cry baby that wants ICN on polo so I can dump. Since I am a smart day-trader, I know that the team is preventing polo from listing it.

TL;DR: same old whining crap about polo

Kraken is not available in few US states, including New York: http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york
Therefore Iconomi investors in New York can only trade on Liqui.
Perhaps if you lived in New York, you'd change your tone against people asking for other major exchanges.
And perhaps, you'll stop being selfish and ask Devs to deliver on their promise during ICO that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".

Why do u think that the devs are preventing polo from listing it? You know it is polo decision,right?
Why don't you cry about this on polo communication channels?
Posting the same over and over here won't help
You want it on polo - go talk with polo. It is as simple as that.


It's clear Devs have an exclusive listing deal with Kraken.
Poloniex & Bittrex are left in the dark on the legal status of ICONOMI, that's why they haven't listed ICN yet, they can't do anything because of NDAs.
ICONOMI's legal team is not bothering to work with Poloniex & Bittrex, to ensure their exclusive listing deal with Kraken.



Can you really be so dumb? Do you have any idea how many people Tim and Jani met, and how many pictures like that one they have uploaded?
polo and bittrex are on the dark on the legal status... hmmm so you think that Kraken added ICN few months ago mostly because they got updated from Iconomi on the legal status??

If you are a trader - go fuckin trade the dips on Kraken. You could made 3x already. Even more.
If you are an investor - wait until the product is released!

otherwise you are just a whining whore
610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 08:10:57 AM
Poloniex & Bittrex will add ICN after the ICONOMI funds platform launches on December 28.
Smart traders are buying quietly on Kraken & Liqui before ICN reaches the big exchanges.

Any sources? I find no info about your claim, please don't post fake news to fool investors, it is negative to this legit project, I don't wanna see people get hurt because of fake news.
If iconomi, would add trade in polo and bittrex why not from the start of the launch, I think, only the false news of the team simply want to increase the popularity of iconomi, much to the disappointment of the project is not public but investors also I think the same with it. ,

What? I understood none of that.

I will translate: "I am a small girl cry baby that wants ICN on polo so I can dump. Since I am a smart day-trader, I know that the team is preventing polo from listing it.

TL;DR: same old whining crap about polo

Kraken is not available in few US states, including New York: http://blog.kraken.com/post/126244351097/farewell-new-york
Therefore Iconomi investors in New York can only trade on Liqui.
Perhaps if you lived in New York, you'd change your tone against people asking for other major exchanges.
And perhaps, you'll stop being selfish and ask Devs to deliver on their promise during ICO that we can "Expect ICN to be Listed on Several Major Exchanges".

Why do u think that the devs are preventing polo from listing it? You know it is polo decision,right?
Why don't you cry about this on polo communication channels?
Posting the same over and over here won't help
You want it on polo - go talk with polo. It is as simple as that.
611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 06:51:41 AM
Poloniex & Bittrex will add ICN after the ICONOMI funds platform launches on December 28.
Smart traders are buying quietly on Kraken & Liqui before ICN reaches the big exchanges.

Any sources? I find no info about your claim, please don't post fake news to fool investors, it is negative to this legit project, I don't wanna see people get hurt because of fake news.
If iconomi, would add trade in polo and bittrex why not from the start of the launch, I think, only the false news of the team simply want to increase the popularity of iconomi, much to the disappointment of the project is not public but investors also I think the same with it. ,

What? I understood none of that.

I will translate: "I am a small girl cry baby that wants ICN on polo so I can dump. Since I am a smart day-trader, I know that the team is preventing polo from listing it.

TL;DR: same old whining crap about polo
612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 14, 2016, 06:48:35 AM
i keep my ICN on ico page until theres real exchange

lol Kraken is a real exchange.

Because not many exchanges altcoin there so that people think kraken not including real exchanger  Cheesy
But for me kraken is the real exchanger  even better than bittrex

lol its number 5 in volume for all exchanges and apparently reaching 88k volume doesn't make it real. If Liqui was the only exchange, sub 10k would be usual volume.

Kraken is more legit than bittrex or poloniex. That is why people don't like it. Because kraken is so legit they acutally have to abide by regulations. Oh no! You poor babies can't hide your taxable income from the government!

I don't think that is the reason lol

Kraken didn't start out as an alt exchange so they're probably thinking its not a "legit," exchange. Ridiculous but there you go. Also the UI is shittier (more difficult) in their eyes than most altcoin exchanges like trex/polo.

Being added to trex would be useless just FYI to the guy who wants a "real," exchange.

If Kraken can't be used in all states of USA, than this may be a problem. I don't know why would they block someone from NY to open an account
613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 08:50:36 PM
$10 is not outside the realm of possibility. $10 is still 1/12th the size of Bitcoin. You have to ask yourself, what percentage of Bitcoin holders just want profits and don't care about Bitcoin itself? I think 1/12th of Bitcoin's market cap could easily flow into ICONOMI.
Are you joking? Grin

nothing can easily jump x50 in price

$.20 is only 5 doublings to $10.

you meant to $1 ?

No. I meant $10. But I did make one error, $.20 is 6 doublings to $10.

.20x2x2x2x2x2x2=12.8

Is this a new type of trolling or you skipped math most of the school?
6 doubling is not the same as x6
614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 08:10:11 PM
$10 is not outside the realm of possibility. $10 is still 1/12th the size of Bitcoin. You have to ask yourself, what percentage of Bitcoin holders just want profits and don't care about Bitcoin itself? I think 1/12th of Bitcoin's market cap could easily flow into ICONOMI.
Are you joking? Grin

nothing can easily jump x50 in price
615  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 08:00:53 PM
Investment Funds are ALL THE RAGE these days...
eToro just released their "next generation investment product" called CopyFunds.
Once Fund Managers see that they can generate much better returns with ICONOMI funds than traditional index funds, we could see a huge influx of money into ICONOMI funds... more Dividends for ICN hodlers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec4qr7CLl8I

etoro are not as legit as they appear. Behind the scenes they are using similar scams and tricks just like in Forex and binary options.
They have a lot of partnerships with those two industries, which may be legal but is definitely not legit.
etoro, as a platform, have a hidden incentive copy-trade customers to lose on their bets. Most of them are betting on stocks and not buying them, meaning they play against the house (Forex and binary options silent partners).

They are registered in Israel, but the offices are in Cyprus.. typical binary options approach.
616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:38:26 PM
I am a bit concerned of the ICN dump that will happen once ICNX launches. Do you guys think that ICNX will gain a bigger marketcap than ICN?  I believe that until OFM platform launches in 2017, the ICNX will be more profitable, and thus will have a bigger marketcap.

For people in Crypto world, ICN is far more appealing than ICNX.

ICNX is a low risk & relatively low profit index fund geared for people from outside Crypto world, who are looking to diversify their investment portfolio with some exposure to Cryptocurrencies.

The majority of Crypto traders rather invest in Cryptos directly, especially Dividends-Paying, 0% Inflation cryptos like no other than ICN.

As ICNX, ICNP & other ICONOMI funds receive more funding, the value of ICN will only sky rocket because ICN holders receive Dividends from every single ICONOMI fund.



I think I agree but depending if they do it right then ICNX will do just fine. Its a great idea and we will be launching some similar on our site soon too. For me I wont exchange ICN for ICNX but I most certainly buy some ICNX. I think ICN could eailly move to 10 usd a piece when we get some movement and iconomi hit their targets.



Easily? That's like saying Ethereum could go easily to $500. Ethereum has huuuuge potential, i mean it's THE Blockchain of the future imo,
but a $10 ICN would be ~50x the price of today
Not that I don't believe both of these cases could become true... but I would not call this easy

Nothing is stopping ICONOMI MarketCap from surpassing Ethereum MarketCap.

It's much easier to get people from old economy to invest in ICONOMI index funds, than to invest in a single blockchain like Ethereum.

Also, ICN reaching $10 is much much much more feasible than ETH reaching $500.

Ethereum is overpriced now, ICN shows steady and healthy price increase, mostly because it is not listed on polo.
I believe this represents more healthy and realistic growth than the bipolar pump and dump on polo. At least as long as the products are not released yet
617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:22:30 PM
I am a bit concerned of the ICN dump that will happen once ICNX launches. Do you guys think that ICNX will gain a bigger marketcap than ICN?  I believe that until OFM platform launches in 2017, the ICNX will be more profitable, and thus will have a bigger marketcap.

For people in Crypto world, ICN is far more appealing than ICNX.

ICNX is a low risk & relatively low profit index fund geared for people from outside Crypto world, who are looking to diversify their investment portfolio with some exposure to Cryptocurrencies.

The majority of Crypto traders rather invest in Cryptos directly, especially Dividends-Paying, 0% Inflation cryptos like no other than ICN.

As ICNX, ICNP & other ICONOMI funds receive more funding, the value of ICN will only sky rocket because ICN holders receive Dividends from every single ICONOMI fund.



I think I agree but depending if they do it right then ICNX will do just fine. Its a great idea and we will be launching some similar on our site soon too. For me I wont exchange ICN for ICNX but I most certainly buy some ICNX. I think ICN could eailly move to 10 usd a piece when we get some movement and iconomi hit their targets.



Easily? That's like saying Ethereum could go easily to $500. Ethereum has huuuuge potential, i mean it's THE Blockchain of the future imo,
but a $10 ICN would be ~50x the price of today
Not that I don't believe both of these cases could become true... but I would not call this easy

+1
besides the part of ethereum being the blockchain of the future. Still not sure about that
618  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:16:40 PM
Glad to report that my withdrawal issue has been resolved. Jani was very helpful. Only wish the help had come sooner. Iconomi is NOT a scam.

I was thinking of blowing out my position but might just hold on it to now that the problem is fixed.

For everyone that attempted to help me in this forum, a big thank you.

For everybody who called me a troll, fu.

On behalf of the entire Iconomi community (and many, many more that prefer to remain anonymous) I would like to thank you that you've decided to hold your position!

I am very interested in the mental process (if exists) that took place in that head of yours in the last 24 hours.
Is there any type of processing, or is it more of a reflex-box that consists of 2 simple, but yet very powerful reactions: "they not help me - they are scam" and "they help me - they are not scam"

Clearly the OP (scam acquisitions and mention of SEC) has money he can't afford to lose in crypto.

money that can't afford to lose should not be in any investor/trader vocabulary.
In any case, 3-4 pages with SEC and scam BS was a bit too much even for btt
619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 07:10:53 PM
Glad to report that my withdrawal issue has been resolved. Jani was very helpful. Only wish the help had come sooner. Iconomi is NOT a scam.

I was thinking of blowing out my position but might just hold on it to now that the problem is fixed.

For everyone that attempted to help me in this forum, a big thank you.

For everybody who called me a troll, fu.

On behalf of the entire Iconomi community (and many, many more that prefer to remain anonymous) I would like to thank you that you've decided to hold your position!

I am very interested in the mental process (if exists) that took place in that head of yours in the last 24 hours.
Is there any type of processing, or is it more of a reflex-box that consists of 2 simple, but yet very powerful reactions: "they not help me - they are scam" and "they help me - they are not scam"
620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 13, 2016, 10:53:16 AM
Sorry for the noob question again but what is ICNX

This is the new investment tool right? So if we buy this we get payments from this from the investing. Then we get additional dividends from the ICN?



as far as i know, there is not going to be ICNX "token"  just buy ICN and you wil get your dividends from all the investements made in ICNX etc...

In which value dividens will be paid? ETH ?

in dildos for you Weilichesbin.

big massive black ones.

5x bigger than his allowance money investment
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