To nie jest dobra opcja. Latwo sobie zasmiecic portfel w ten sposob. Gdybys uzbieral jakas wieksza kwote z takich faucetow i chcial tym potem zaplacic/przelac to tx fee bylaby pewnie kilka razy wieksza.

Props to Steve Baker for bringing up such a big subject (money creation) and for trying to spur a debate.


It's even more depressing when you see all the "crowd" interested in a discussing the matter.

What's the progress with prcdice 2.0? Any update?

What's the rough estimate when it will go live, is it matter of days, weeks, months?

I don't think I've commented negatively, I'm not even a part of this campaign so my point of view is pretty neutral. I even posted somewhere that I don't think it's likely that this campaign is a scam.

But half of this thread (+ other threads) relates to the uncertainty whether this campaign i legit or not. Just can't understand why would you choose to deal with all this instead of just escrowing with trusted member and instantly cutting all that BS and accusations.

You still haven't made clear why you wouldn't use trusted escrow (from your point of view). For example:
- you don't trust anyone enough to let them hold all the funds.
- you want to use this opportunity to build up your own trust score.
-[some other reason]

Just a simple, honest answer, so people can see your logic.


You cannot really say that. A few people asked for trusted escrow, other remain silent, but didn't see any posts like "we trust carra, we don't want an escrow".

Anyway, think I've already spent too much time in this thread.

Good luck with the campaign

Is it a good sign?

Notice he didn't even apply to join. You won't find his post anywhere in this thread. And yet he joins the officially closed campaign. So there are 2 options:

1) monbux is not even aware that he's enrolled, or
2) carra breaks his own rules and grants monbux a back-door entry to the CLOSED campaign.


Did carra actually explained why he don't want to escrow the funds? It may seems like he's avoiding the subject.
There is a clear demand from participants for the trusted escrow. They were willing to do the escrow in the old/original campaign thread. There is a trusted member who is willing to escrow for free. So what's the problem?

I'm not accusing anyone of scam, but something is 'not-quite-right' with this campaign.

There's no hard cap on DOGE. You can mine it... forever.

Don't think they will delete it, all you can do is lock the thread.

Did you give up on the project?

I would be very happy to add you, but I have nothing to do with that website. I was just sharing an update.

Full list is on the website now:

http://bitcoinblackfriday.com

So you want to punish participants with neg trusts in order to protect them from scam?? Is that what you're saying?

If you claim that the cryptomine (as a business) is a scam site, then it's a whole different thing, and it's irrelevant whether there is or isn't an escrow. In such case no one should be advertising it anyway.

That's all good, no problem at all. Thanks for replying.

Probably they'll spend something around 5.5 BTC as not everyone will hit the max post + bonus. So say 5.5 BTC less say 2.5 BTC (hero acc worth) = 3 BTC.

So 3 BTC worth of advertising for the business with the ruined reputation (that will happen if they don't pay). Not really a 'high profile' scam, isn't it?

Good point. That's a plausible scenario. If the campaign is a success - they'll pay. If it's a fiasco - they won't.

But if that's the plan, they'd likely do it on a larger scale, with more participants (since they don't risk anything). Also they're not newly formed business and they seemed to invest way too much to wager everything on success/failure of a single sig campaign.

I don't think there is a high risk of scam (not paying for campaign). The whole 'value' of 1 month campaign is probably not high enough to sacrifice a hero account and risk the business' reputation.

And if they didn't intend to pay, they'd probably accept many more participants.

That being said, I don't see any reason not to escrow with trusted member, or at least pay once a week (and pay the '+50 posts bonus' on 31st).

That's just an additional information. You don't get any special bonus for 1 month participation

The affiliate payments (the new program) were meant to be done on 25th, but I didn't get the payment yet.

Is there a delay, or will the first payments be done on 25th Dec?

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Will add the sig before 1st Dec.

Let me know whether I'm in or not.

Not necessarily a 'whales'. With a good ref system, you can earn a decent income with just a few medium-stake active players.

Re-enrolling for next week

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