^this whole project seems to be a self serving endevour~correct me if i'm wayyy off...>>> it is a tight nit elitist group of insiders forging and voting for themselves then dumping their useless shares(coins) shamelessly onto the n00bs on the markets...interesting how the first exchange Lisk was IPO'd on the wallet still doen't work! LMFAO!!! ===> I will have no problem going to San Francisco as it is my neighborhood and i know ALOT of people there...ideas? YOU THINK I'M JOKING??   |
|
|
|
^if i had a satoshi for every time someone hollar "scam" on these boards i'd be a millinare  |
|
|
|
i do expect that the price of bitcoin will trade betweem $850 and $950 for some time,
I don't think so. Too many people want to have at least one bitcoin. true, and not even every millionaire (denominated in $) could have one. there are more millionaires existing than bitcoin. I understand your point, but What a silly one, no? At today's prices, as I type, a million dollars could get you about 1,093 bitcoins, but if you have a million to invest, you might need to diversify a little bit, no? Frequently, I mention to people who might be skeptical about bitcoins, that 1% to 10% of your quasi-liquid investment funds could be reasonable to invest in bitcoin, but if you happen to be fairly skeptical and skittish about today's prices, then maybe you would feel comfortable with only 1% in bitcoin, and all those variations seem reasonable. So, at today's prices, a person who has $1million to invest but is fairly sceptical about bitcoins could still get 10.93 bitcoins... in other words, what seems to be your point, 600watt, those millionaires should act now, while the price is seemingly reasonable in a globally distributed mindset and while supplies last (before everyone else finds out the value of bitcoin). my point is that even today, hell, even if bitcoin price tanks to $100 - no matter what price - not every existing millionaire can have one bitcoin. even if all existing btc hodlers would sell all their coins. there is no theoretical way possible, because there are more millionaires than bitcoins. to me this is an interesting fact, to lots of others it seems silly. i donīt understand why people get so itchy about it.  edit: hodlers |
|
|
|
Oh, shit ... Trumpcoin has fallen in price to a mark 16k from 54k. Well as you mega pump on the day of the inauguration of the US President? I knew that on such news there are liars, who shaved gullible investors, like sheep.
ask chicken65 who has closed his thread after the dump...  why could it be? ^chiken65 is just haired because he sold before the first big run //understandable! ~we welcome chiken65 to contribute to development and ideas alongside our new partners linked to Carnegie-Mellon*... big news coming ! |
|
|
|
Wouldn't think that Kelly would destroy part of his reputation by this being a scam, surely he has some plans for it..
Reputation? Brian Kelly? He is a piece of ...! What a reputation are you speaking about?It's less then zero! ^what part of "fast money" are you confused about? |
|
|
|
i think people who sensationalize a scalabilty problem should reevaluate the facts ! This is nonsense. The only reason you can type such a thing right now is because nobody has been priced out of on-chain transactions yet. As soon as that happens (which is definitely not far away), that's when bitcoin hits a wall due to what I said here: A settlement layer has to compete with or beat gold as a store of value. Bitcoin cannot accomplish that task so it has to do something else besides being a settlement layer or there is no point!
This is the gorilla in the room. It turns out Roger Ver is wrong because slightly bigger blocks solves nothing. Bitcoin would require a full blown LN capacity or it doesn't really have a value proposition. The only question is, can the LN actually function? It seems like to me you would have to place all channel closing in a centralized queue, so I have my doubts about LN. And that is the real fundamental analysis of Bitcoin that most people in this thread either can't comprehend or sort of know there are issues like this but choose to ignore them and hope someone will pump it anyway. So for bitcoin holders to have any value for their coins would need both miners to adopt segwit and LN to actually work in a decentralized manner, and there is currently no assurance for either one. Although, I think it's likely they will pass segwit once people figure the conclusion I derive is true. But then you still need LN to work in a decentralized manner or it's just some obfuscated form of Paypal. Economy of scale might already cause terminal centralization for the 1st tier bitcoin network in the first place though, by driving the reqs to participate to corporation level. From a fundamental perspective, people that can actually understand how all these variables interact (which I think are very few) know that in current state bitcoin is relatively broken in terms of long term workability. The only question is how high can the price go before people figure that out. ^bitcoin parity with gold is a nobrainer ~ segwit appears to me like a clear understandable palatable development whereas LN is leaning towards experimental and we are yet to see if it will actually work as discribed or is even an essential add-on that will be embraced by endusers. *stay tuned* |
|
|
|
^#1:: yes it's good to see development taking place as i have been seeing regular updates on github. ^#2:: i'll work on getting up to the city to meet Max face to face!* >> perhaps we can iron out our differences...?  |
|
|
|
Why the dev closed the main TrumpCoin thread?
Is the dev dont active anymore now? I buy trumpcoin back a few days ago and now this.
He hasn't actively developed anything in months. Depredation, bitbobb and bitbullbarbados have been handling things. Before he won the nomination I put forward a huge development change I was willing to implement at my own cost. I provided a link to the white paper on the original thread and not one of this group even asked a single question about it. I doubt they even downloaded it. ( I cannot offer the tech now as its been sold. ) I asked them to join me on the original thread which started the project (for the inauguration) not one of them did. I tried, but when you have this kind of animosity there isn't much one can do.  ^come on bro let's make this right! #together_we_stand |
|
|
|
i do expect that the price of bitcoin will trade betweem $850 and $950 for some time,
I don't think so. Too many people want to have at least one bitcoin. true, and not even every millionaire (denominated in $) could have one. there are more millionaires existing than bitcoin. This is a great fact. thanks for the reply. most of the times people reply something like: "why would every millionaire want a bitcoin?" but it is fact and it doesnīt matter how much $ they would want want to pay for that one bitcoin. there will never be enough, even when worth a million $... Perhaps one day a bitcoin will be to the rich like a single share of BRK.A stock. I'm sure those shares are likely highly coveted now amongst them. My father talks all the time about how he and his friends in the early 90s would moan that a single BRK.A share was "overpriced" and "overvalued" at mid- quadruple digits... then watched in horror as the shares went into mid- quintuple digits just a decade later. Now they are at $240K/ share, LOL. My dad's also salty about passing on heavily investing in Microsoft in the 80's.  #zerocorrelation |
|
|
|
I only remember your diesel generator in the woods stories. You don't talk too much aboot your daily life in Toronto.
I have dual citizenship: country slicker and city bumpkin. That's one of the reasons for my higher than average security measures. People know I'm often away for days or weeks at a time. I'll assume your misspelling of "about" was a typo. It makes you sound like an American hillbilly though. They seem to think that if you don't pronounce "about" as "a-bay-owt" that you're talking about footwear.  ^well dude if we need to fence stuff off ebay so be it! ~i'm stateside fwiw |
|
|
|
Only one problem: Valid for use in the United States only  ^hmmm i wonder why no one else has addressed this issue, i see a viable business opportunity for someone who can fix this "bug" in the code ! |
|
|
|
What a development team! This scam doesn't have any team only scammer - Brian Kelly who sold his coin and ran away from it! we all know naut has a professional scam team with leadership by Brain Kelly. 脑瘫币  #neverforget |
|
|
|
the truth is you can spend coins on Amazon with no problems! Anything shipped right to your door!~ i think people who sensationalize a scalabilty problem should reevaluate the facts ! No argument from me on that one. >> Now if only Paypal would smarten up and do the same, I wouldn't miss out on eBay bargains due to the high cost and slow process of making deposits. << n00b! ===> https://www.egifter.com/giftcards/ebay-gift-card :: *shipping* |
|
|
|
Good morning Bitcoinland. I see we're having one of those days.  Current price... $913USD (Bitcoinaverage). Ho hum. g'morning sir ~ the truth is you can spend coins on Amazon with no problems! Anything shipped right to your door!~ i think people who sensationalize a scalabilty problem should reevaluate the facts ! |
|
|
|
^that's cool yeah that's what i like to see real contributions to move the community forward! *2017 a great year is ahead of us!* |
|
|
|
Is anyone else having trouble accessing lisk.chat ?  ^yes but only because they have censored me from speaking there!!!  *gagged me!* ===> bitcoin was not created to enable elite douche bags to censor free speech!!! What was so bad they censored you from chat? You're not censored here ^oh just asking simple questions about legal stuff!  Legal stuff like? Don't be shy. ^ask Joel as my inquiries were met with hostility! Obviously there are many unanswered questions and problems dealing with the German laws. Thus the attempt to cover their ass with this "non-profit" filings..however LiskCorp is a "for profit" endevour! >> correct me if i'm wrong... * yawn * |
|
|
|
Why have you all come out in force like holy shit.
Seems like a good time to be buying LISK to me.
^dump it to \\v*2000 sat0shi imho= fair price as per prior to the CRYPTI tearout/heist... haa Think you got the numbers wrong, was it not around 1000sat?> I dumped long ago at 40k plus and re brought <15k but will be buying more in the near future. Thanks to you guys. ^come on 2000 would be a relatively safe place to buy back ...maybe? ya you prolly right << |
|
|
|
Why have you all come out in force like holy shit.
Seems like a good time to be buying LISK to me.
^dump it to \\v*2000 sat0shi imho= fair price as per prior to the CRYPTI tearout/heist... haa |
|
|
|
Is the contest open only to delegates are the new registered user on the lisk forum will not be able to join thank you. and also voted
Welcome chichidori Contest opened to everyone! I will modify the rules ^really even me?  *i don't think so* ~modify the rules like you have modified the roadmap? |
|
|
|
A cryptocurrency which is fully controlled by a nation state is just a national currency.
And banks do the job good and cheap enough for fiat transfers.
There wont be any chinacoin...
There will, and it's a terrifying idea in the hands of a country that is perfectly at home practising wide-scale internet surveillance and censorship. Why would they need a crypto for it if they can do the same with less expenses? If you look at capital controls, aml, kyc it will only get worst and china has much more play room then western democracies in this regard. I can only imagine a chinacoin if it is a undercover operation by the chinese government where they have full control in secret. actually it would be interesting to see a state actor implement a fractional reserve type coin all Fiat will be on the bank developed blockchains soon http://www.reuters.com/article/us-tech-blockchain-ibm-idUSKCN11Y28Dhttp://fortune.com/2016/09/28/blockchain-banks-2017/ #neverforget |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
