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6081  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: April 25, 2015, 03:47:44 PM

Don't trust luck it only imaginary concepts of people who won always. You have a great trade if you have a good offer that like of the person who will trade to you. Its all depends on your product, if your products are  low standard and quality do you think they will trade to you? of course not, if your product have a good quality and high standard of course they will buy it or they will they trade to you. That is what i am exactly mean.

Luck is the real thing when it comes to gambling. May be even if you are do trading you also need luck altough not as much as when we are gambling. You mean that about quality of your product? It doesnt correspond with this luck things. That is based of your own company and technology to make a good product or not
That was i mean. And the product that i said is only my example because of the post or reply that i been qouted. But i didn't believe in luck because it depends in yourself , it depends on what are you doing. You make your good luck and bad luck.

Yes luck is depend from yourself but luck also you can get from outside for examples like your enviroments. The chinese ever said that your luck is already been set so it just depends on you how you are going to make it come true and I believe that will happen
6082  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin Has What It Takes To Replace Fiat? on: April 25, 2015, 03:39:35 PM
Yes, Bitcoin has the potential to replace fiat and it is going to happen eventually when there is more wide adoption of bitcoin, it will obviously take time, we can expect it to become a reality within a decade which is totally possible. If it happens, it will greatly reduce the bureaucracy of governments as Bitcoin cannot be centralized.

I don't think it will happen because there will always be people who don't want to depend on electronics and have a physical form of currency just in case. And these people won't be that 1% everybody laughs at, there's more of them than you might think.
Bitcoin still requires an investment: you need a phone or a computer with internet access and you just need to have a pocket to hold fiat Wink


Nope, it will change the fiat sooner or later, nowadays people surely need electronics no matter what because in every year our technologies develope in so many variety ways that need electric, electricity can't die. Bitcoin is waiting for coming in a new era and will change the fiat it every aspec


This is not a competition to challenge fiat and destroy it. It's good that the fiat scam exists, so we can get the contrast of how it's correctly done with Bitcoin. Let them run national currencies, who cares as long as we have the BTC alternative.

This is your saying but surely the government will try to destroy it if there is any contra with this bitcoin, altough for now bitcoin is still safe may be one day when bitcoin is trying to change the currency government will try to act what are they suppose to do in other to destroy it. As long as you got btc but your btc value is drop significantly how are you going to face it?
6083  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 25, 2015, 03:31:12 PM
It is just wasting time there and your money can't even be withdrawn and that is for 10 years. Imagine that if you convert your money into bitcoins now and how much will you get after 10 years and you still can withdraw your bitcoin anywhere and at anytime

Putting small change into Bitcoin is one thing, substantial investment is another.
I would be devastated if I had put in my hard-earned money into Bitcoin when it was $500+ and discovered that its value had halved in a short period of time.

Yes its true the value of bitcoin is still volatile but if you really can do trading you can even get a bigger profit and we will change everything like as easy as flip coin. Altough its easy it doesnt mean you need to buy it with your hard earned money, you can save a little for bitcoin and you can use the rest for your living things. Its up to you how are you gonna do it
Can i ask? What do you do to your bitcoin after you buy it? You will do it as a payment if your buying online or you do it as a payment for the services that they gave to you? Or you will invest it? Which one?

Actually I dont think I will do anything to my own bitcoin since I bought it, may be just a little gambling and then I will do trading for the rest altough the bitcoin still in a volatile condition. So what that matter to you?
6084  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: April 25, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
As long as Businesses would accept BTC the government would also follow through. Government can't stop the adoption of BTC, sooner or later they're going to realize the benefits that it can bring.

good point, I also think so

The government regulates businesses. The most effective way to control Bitcoin is to regulate the businesses that accept it. In this way, they may not be able to stop it, but they can keep it out of the mainstream.
Government can't stop bitcoin until theres so many using of it. Business using it or accept it because trading bitcoin is so easy and safe than the traditional trading system. So that government will forced to used it because if they not use it because the private business company will not cooperate with them because they not using bitcoin.

Yes its true that goverment can't stop bitcoin but using this for business its ok but it doesnt mean that it is safe than traditional trading system. Traditional system is safe can we also can claim back what we lost but a new system we can't find the culprit who are get our bitcoin if missing or may be scammed. All of this things must have advantages and disadvantages, thats what make goverment still using trading system and still haven't apply this new kind of trading to our society.

As Bitcoin becomes more mainstream and gets taken more seriously, serious trading platforms such as Gemini which will be fully regulated, will arise. Chargeback systems will be possible through serious escrows and storage of wealth will be possible through serious 3rd parties such as Xapo.

Its true that nowadays bitcoin becomes more mainstream but the goverment still lack of idea of what are they suppose to do with this bitcoin. Yes and how are you going to tell government about escrows and xapo if they dont even care and still looking at the other ways to make their own currency better
6085  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: April 25, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
How many time you need to roll that 98% for winning? In 100 times roll I guess you still not winning it right? Its true that people do it for fun but they really hope to hit the jackpot and win that a lot. If you really got that method why dont you share some for us may be it will help some people to cover the loss
I'm not saying that gambling is the better way. What's your guarantee that after buying in at e.g. $200 won't fall to $100 or less?
Both carries quite the risk and people need to be aware of this. People often think that if they've traded a few altcoins and some Bitcoin that they're traders, but they aren't.

Yeah I know it that gambling is not a better to earn bitcoin but still so many people is being attracted to do the gambling and some of them think that this is the fastest way to get your bitcoin altough the risk is high but they still do it. Of course doing it both get a higher risk and it is not a guarantee, but some of them really get money from doing trading and of course they have a big stash of bitcoin so it will be easier for them to get some.

Some of them think like that because they already earn a little bit, altough they are just in lucky and didnt have any basic though
6086  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the usage of Bitcoin now on: April 25, 2015, 02:58:23 PM
The best use of Bitcoin in my opinion... buying "stuff" online, with more security than traditional payment methods. I would much rather buy my honey and coffee online with Bitcoin, than buying it with a credit card.

Online Tipping for me, has also been growing, and I did not notice this before Bitcoin. {Micro payments}

Let's hope, the remittance market takes off, and Bitcoin vendor's increase, then we would go to the Moon.

some are not buying much with bitcoin, because they are waiting for a better price, thus a better buying power when using bitcoin, and i'm in the same boat as those people

i want to buy more stuff with my precious bitcoin, current price is unfair...

Yes they didnt buying much with bitcoin because they want to earn more so they stack their btc more and more and then the price is good to sell they will sell it to get their money back in their own currency, I think that because the price now is too volatile so they no need to sell their btc first just in case
6087  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to convert to fiat anonymously? on: April 25, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
Not sure how much of a newbie you are, but you'll never make 5 BTC through faucets and signature campaigns. You'll have to work to get that much, or buy them at an exchange.

Its true about faucet but I think signature campaign can earn that lot. Let say if you get 0.4 per week then 2.5 month should be 1 btc so you do signature campaign for around 12.5 months then you will get it, and its a long way to go but he really can have it like that and here I didnt count others that you collected it from the start you using bitcoin may be you can get 5 btc lower than 12.5 months
6088  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's evolution on: April 25, 2015, 02:29:21 PM
It could replace fiat if the price is stable. However.. only if it replace fiat.. it will become stable. I foreseen many physical shops with 'Accept Bitcoin' in the next 20 years or so.

Altough the price is stable I think bitcoin can't change the fiat because no one can control it, higher or lower it depends on us that do the trading at most. Its true that now many people accept bitcoin but in the next 20 years I dont think people will do that again, but this is just my assumption. It still being polemic between bitcoin and many things out there
6089  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a Coin, i.e. a thing (RE), we can barter tax free (!) on: April 25, 2015, 02:24:15 PM
it ain't money. however you can buy, sell, loan, rent, invest, legerage, bet, lose, be stolen, divide, or barter them or even trash them. making them a thing. if you broke them (send to an impossible address) they are gone. like a thing.

And the states is defeated by the Machines, free they want to be, like us. Free from corrupt legalist, unable to follow the laws of physics and mathematics. Eternal Equations are backed by God.

don't let them fool you. Welcome to bartertown.

Smiley


Bitcoin will be the currency of our own society just to make it clear that now bitcoin is trying to proof that it will be domain for most of traders and soon they will change the fiat or may be we can buy things with it directly without any taxes. And why you should trash them if you can use it for your own future?
6090  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Classic Bitcoin Polls - What is your all time favorite Bitcoin wallet? on: April 25, 2015, 02:11:16 PM
When it comes down to it, nothing beats the good old fashioned paper wallet!


But dont you think paper wallet is a bit dangerous, just a slip of a hand it will be gone forever, its better online wallet altough it has a chance to be hacked by people out there.
6091  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does Bitcoin Has What It Takes To Replace Fiat? on: April 25, 2015, 02:07:46 PM
Yes, Bitcoin has the potential to replace fiat and it is going to happen eventually when there is more wide adoption of bitcoin, it will obviously take time, we can expect it to become a reality within a decade which is totally possible. If it happens, it will greatly reduce the bureaucracy of governments as Bitcoin cannot be centralized.

I don't think it will happen because there will always be people who don't want to depend on electronics and have a physical form of currency just in case. And these people won't be that 1% everybody laughs at, there's more of them than you might think.
Bitcoin still requires an investment: you need a phone or a computer with internet access and you just need to have a pocket to hold fiat Wink


Nope, it will change the fiat sooner or later, nowadays people surely need electronics no matter what because in every year our technologies develope in so many variety ways that need electric, electricity can't die. Bitcoin is waiting for coming in a new era and will change the fiat it every aspec
6092  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did you mine it or buy it? on: April 25, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Why so many people now buy bitcoin rather than mine it? Mining is one of the best invest in this bitcoin altough it is so slow for now but still we can mine and get btc from it and if you guys always buying bitcoin when will you get your own bitcoin? I dont think you guy got some profit because you can't earn back after you lost it
6093  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: April 25, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
trade.
other than everything has more risk.
It doesn't mean that it has necessarily more risk. What about betting at 98% win chance? You can't really say that it is more risky than trading your money. We've had many people whining due to the fact that they lost money. One can't blame bitcoin for that. You can't just be a trader, one has to learn how to be one.
Gambling is also very risky, but some people do it for fun and profit from it. There is no easy way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC although I know methods that would earn you those 2BTC over time.

How many time you need to roll that 98% for winning? In 100 times roll I guess you still not winning it right? Its true that people do it for fun but they really hope to hit the jackpot and win that a lot. If you really got that method why dont you share some for us may be it will help some people to cover the loss
6094  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: April 25, 2015, 12:55:38 PM
As long as Businesses would accept BTC the government would also follow through. Government can't stop the adoption of BTC, sooner or later they're going to realize the benefits that it can bring.

good point, I also think so

The government regulates businesses. The most effective way to control Bitcoin is to regulate the businesses that accept it. In this way, they may not be able to stop it, but they can keep it out of the mainstream.
Government can't stop bitcoin until theres so many using of it. Business using it or accept it because trading bitcoin is so easy and safe than the traditional trading system. So that government will forced to used it because if they not use it because the private business company will not cooperate with them because they not using bitcoin.

Yes its true that goverment can't stop bitcoin but using this for business its ok but it doesnt mean that it is safe than traditional trading system. Traditional system is safe can we also can claim back what we lost but a new system we can't find the culprit who are get our bitcoin if missing or may be scammed. All of this things must have advantages and disadvantages, thats what make goverment still using trading system and still haven't apply this new kind of trading to our society.
6095  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 25, 2015, 12:49:48 PM

If you could go back and choose another type of education, would you change it given what you said above?

If I could do it over, I'd either go into neuroscience, engineering or technology (science/physics background).  Business is a pretty bullshit subject to study in university as you mentioned, it's easy to learn online through research. 

If i could do it over, i would not have gone to university, i would have even quit school.

I would just waited until 2009 and saved money until then (probably asked some money from parents and would went to a low paying job), then buy bitcoin back in 2009 and now be filthy rich.

You always need your degree for the first thing to do in your life altough you said that you do a full time job for a bitcoin but the price is so volatile and are you going to sacrifice all things just to wait this bitcoing going high? Let say that you are rich for that time, are you gonna live only for that moment?

No i would have bought myself the things i`ve needed, then extracted a few more millions and put those in some safe investments in case bitcoin would be gone (i could not know the future in 2013). And i would have kept like 10-15 million $ in bitcoin just to see what happens with it.

I`m sure most of the bitcoin millionaires did the same, nobody just let all their earnings in bitcoin, and nobody converted them all back into fiat. All of them have hybrid portfolios by now.

How can you suppose to know what kind of things that you needed in a future if you didnt get your degree? And how you do that all things without any basic. Im sure if you go all like that you must be scammed by many people out there and there is no going back after you step outside. It depends on how are you going to do with this all stuffs, somebody let all their earning in bitcoin to try luck in it and have a bright future but some dont, so it doesnt mean that you have spare you will succeed it all depends on your hardwork too
If you don't know what stuff or things that you need in the future, I will suggested that you save your money so that if the time comes that you will buy a stuff that will helped you, you can but it because you have money. Instead of buying things that you didn't know that it could help you, save it or invest it so your money can earn a profit, even if it small or big it will help you so much.

isn't better to invest your time instead, and save every penny(minus the one that are mandatory to spend, for foods, bill ecc...), in this way there is no risk, only fatigue at the end of the day, maybe

time is your money after all

Yes its true time is money but if you just stay like that and save every penny you got, it doesnt make you really rich, I didnt say that it is not worth but that kind of things just let you live your normal live. All of us want to change our life thats why we are trying the best of investment in this bitcoin to get a better life
6096  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: April 25, 2015, 12:43:04 PM

Don't trust luck it only imaginary concepts of people who won always. You have a great trade if you have a good offer that like of the person who will trade to you. Its all depends on your product, if your products are  low standard and quality do you think they will trade to you? of course not, if your product have a good quality and high standard of course they will buy it or they will they trade to you. That is what i am exactly mean.

Luck is the real thing when it comes to gambling. May be even if you are do trading you also need luck altough not as much as when we are gambling. You mean that about quality of your product? It doesnt correspond with this luck things. That is based of your own company and technology to make a good product or not
6097  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: April 25, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
It is just wasting time there and your money can't even be withdrawn and that is for 10 years. Imagine that if you convert your money into bitcoins now and how much will you get after 10 years and you still can withdraw your bitcoin anywhere and at anytime

Putting small change into Bitcoin is one thing, substantial investment is another.
I would be devastated if I had put in my hard-earned money into Bitcoin when it was $500+ and discovered that its value had halved in a short period of time.

Yes its true the value of bitcoin is still volatile but if you really can do trading you can even get a bigger profit and we will change everything like as easy as flip coin. Altough its easy it doesnt mean you need to buy it with your hard earned money, you can save a little for bitcoin and you can use the rest for your living things. Its up to you how are you gonna do it
6098  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: April 25, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
...

Another point, hinted by recent posts here, is that the World has already chosen gold!

The central banks do not own silver or platinum.  Nor even uranium.  They own gold.  Humanity freely chose gold as the numeraire (Store of Value) millennia ago.

But, I still think that Bitcoin and gold is better than the either one alone.

Fishez!

Bank doesnt have power to control the bitcoin thats why manypeople get some gold for their investment, but still some of them invest in bitcoin so it really depends which one do you want to choose. Rather gold or bitcoin is good for a great investment
6099  Economy / Services / Re: quick test of my website for 0.005BTC? on: April 25, 2015, 06:20:14 AM
count me in

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6100  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Neteller and Bitcoin on: April 24, 2015, 06:51:09 PM
Somebody knows the answer for that question?

Thanks!



What do you mean by that? If you ask wether he can use btc that the one you gave him my answer is yes but where are you sending the btc to? If directly to his wallet may be he still can use it but I dont guarantee it
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