Small robots that can deliver small packages from one location to another on air and ground. They are tracked through an encrypted interface.
Operators operate robots remotely, share code and data for further improvement of courier AI and credited through bitcoin micropayment system.
Bigger payments incentivize courier operators to pick up object and deliever it to another location where other operators can pick it up.
Obviously, something need to be figured out to prevent operators engage in robotic combat for packages, not get into traffic accidents, not get package stolen, and so on.
Would taking a deposit from a robot who wants to pickup a package be sufficient? Example: Package is worth 200BTC so you take a 300BTC deposit on pickup and pay 310BTC on confirmed delivery. I have a hunch that "robot wars" won't be a problem. If a robot is worth a lot more than a typical package or delivery fee then a small risk of damage would stop shenanigans. Robot theft/hijacking would probably be a slightly more challenging problem. Self destructing robots? |
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Yeah, the way taxation usually goes is, "Give me money or I'll hurt you" "Okay, here you go"
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Wouldn't it be smarter for us all to hold our bids until near 90,000 for when the value of bitcoins rises dramatically?  I am holding my real bid ;-) |
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The rake needs capped for sure. PS and I believe other sites have a much lower rake cap for HU games. I think it's still 50 cents instead of $3. This is especially important if you need game starters. I think there are plenty of people who want to play full tables, but not HU. You need HU to get things started.
I know you are just using the default setting because it was the default, just want to make sure it's clear that it'll be important to growing a healthy active site to put a cap on.
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1,000 BTC for $1,000 USD Liberty Reserve.
Well, I can beat that. 2000BTC for $1000. |
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grondilu, I think your premise is flawed-- banishing the words "money" or "currency" will not help avoid future troubles with governments.
Well, it would make things a little bit more difficult for them. People speaking truth will make things difficult for them. Banning words only helps block communication. |
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What is the minimum required number of players? 14? Is that likely to happen?
I'm interested, but it'll be 8AM here so I'm just a maybe.
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I've seen this claim on the boards before. Do you think this directive really applies to anything that can be sold for money? So pancakes, flowers, and kisses ARE money if someone trades them for money?
If you buy pancakes and that they can be used in other unrelated places to "buy" goods or services, then those pancakes are money. The difference is that, at least, you can eat your pancake. With Euro, dollars or bitcoins, you can't. Okay, in my house and at least one other pancakes are traded for many things including oz of OJ and sexual favors so I guess they are money now. |
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It is if you are trading bitcoin for money. The whole market of bitcoin is not affected by the definition but the real money/bitcoin interface will. As a consequence, bitcoin *is* electronic money as long as someone is willing to buy it for real money.
I've seen this claim on the boards before. Do you think this directive really applies to anything that can be sold for money? So pancakes, flowers, and kisses ARE money if someone trades them for money? |
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How do the major exchanges make money, surely not a charge on ever trade, right? That would kill spreads and liquidity, no? I absolutely think mtgox should monetize somehow, but anything seems better than a per trade charge. One time fee, monthly fee, deposit or withdrwal charge, advertisers, there are plenty of options. It just seems to me keeping the market as tight and liquid as possible needs to be a top priority.
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Transactions before that one and even after that one were adding confirms. So this is odd, and actually i am starting to have some doubts about safety and reliability of bitcoin transfering  I'm really just speculating, hopefully someone with knowledge will come by. Maybe that transaction didn't propagate correctly and it took that long before it was rebroadcast? |
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Thanks for the graph, tcatm.
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now i have 88058 blocks, and finally!!! It has started to confirm! Transaction that i made 27/10/2010 at 14.00 has 8 confirmations at 8.42 28/10/2010... i do not like that speed of transfering
Maybe you were not actually connected to peers and were not getting new blocks? Were the transactions before it still adding confirms? That would be odd. |
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I'm not a troll, I've been a part of the bitcoin forums for a while and intend to stick around for a while yet. I don't check in all that often so don't always respond quickly.
Defending one's fields by having neighbors assist in defending them and paying with vegetables is community action, that is at the heart of Anarchist thought (at least Anarcho Socialist thought) but it does mean that in a certain way the fields belong to all of the neighbors. Holding a giant compound with security doors meanwhile, I don't know that I can address that properly. I suppose that so long as you are not using that control to exert power over your neighbors there is really nothing wrong with it.
I hoped and expected you would be okay with those actions. Now if some neighbors don't like vegetables and trade them for something else is that okay? What if you trade the veggies fist and give them what they want directly? Sounds good to me. Anarchists of any stripe are generally not opposed to markets. I know I am not. Where I would have a problem is if someone manages to get a group together to control enough of the fields that people locally are unable to feed themselves without accepting the terms that are dictated by that person. At that point a government has arisen. Okay, sorry for taking it so slowly, I expected you to have some sort of problem with markets and I wanted to pin down exactly when trading things for labor (even guarding) became bad. There are plenty of self described anarchists that are opposed to markets though. From what I gather they are not just opposed to some of the current particular 'markets' but actually oppose ownership and trade. I think they are confused, but that's what they think right now. There is no government. There are simply people who are willing to initiate violence (or advocate for it) and those who are not. I am against all initiation of force, and will be after governments are disintegrated. It just so happens that right now most force is government force so thats what I care about. Lately I'm learning that people advocate or use force and coercion because it was used on them as children. I am particularly appalled by the use of force on children. Voluntary education is good, forced education is bad. Voluntary sex is good, forced sex is bad. |
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I'm not saying it wouldn't be good to show assets, I think it would.
We would need to see a full list of accounts to compare, that would be interesting info.
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but you are buying BTC so why do you care if the Gox USD is backed or not?
Why I have to put fresh money on a hot air backed market? I doubt your trade platform have enough money to pay all members if they ask for their money right now. Your site numbers is not valid if the money is not there... Prove I'm wrong and happily I will be there. Show the money. Valerius. Two days ago he wasn't paying out any USD at all, so it seems like there is a good chance that the total of all deposits is not in the LR account yet, maybe never if he might pay some people some other ways. Now if there was doubt that the USD could be paid then the bitcoin price would be inflated, and I think it was when there was uncertainty about the timeline. But now there doesn't seem to be any difference. And as a bitcoin buyer you have like 5 minutes of exposure. If your worry is shared then you should be able to get them cheaper because bitcoin sellers won't want to risk not getting paid and will take a lower price to avoid the "risky" mtgox. |
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If you have LR why not use MtGox now? Just curious.
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Hmm, spambot are getting more sophisticated. That mean they might pass the turning test one day!
We'll be talking to spambots and don't know it. The world is doomed!
If they have big tits its fine with me  This was not one of Turing's requirements. |
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I just created a LR account. After withdrawing USD 75, which went very quickly, I got 73.51 on my LR account. Shouldn't it be 74.25? Looks like the fee of 1% has been deducted twice?
Apparently mtgox takes 1% and LR takes another 1%? Can't be. Mt. Gox says on every page: Mt. Gox charges no fee and is free to use. The withdrawal page only mentions the 1% charged by Liberty Reserve. Yeah, I remember it does say that, but he did charge $1 before for PP withdraws and for checks, so I think the best guess is that he took 1%. |
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