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6101  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 11:26:56 PM
I also tried to plug the miner in, I get nothing. Red light on the power supply, nothing turns on. Power button does nothing.
Pull all boards and check (fix?) the backplane sockets/pins then re-seat the boards.
Check all cabling.
Does the PSU have more than 1 light? (some have several status lights and red then means fault/short somewhere)
Pray...
6102  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Hey all,

Jim is fine, just palpitations due to stress, he was instructed to take a few days off and we will be back up and running on Monday. This is a very stressful business guys.

Shipped out more miners and rigs today, again to guys on here as well.
Glad to hear it on both parts!

Um, PLEASE pay more attention to packaging these things... So far the shippers seem to have been playing soccer with our miners...
6103  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 11:05:18 PM
Ouch!
Never heard of double boxing or at least foam spacers I guess.. Bet the boxes the cases came in had spacers. Why dinna they use those boxes put into a larger one for the outside?

And why do the underpants gnomes from South Park come to mind??? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDsQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtO5sxLapAts&ei=fHZIU47eEYWQ2AXF0oHoDw&usg=AFQjCNEf9yZQDGPAZRXnuJRjhGyk9Pk0wQ&bvm=bv.64542518,d.b2I
6104  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
Can you point us to any data sheets showing the physical connections to these supplies? I have been searching high and low through Dell, HP and other sites for their server PSU's and none seem to like giving us the output connector/bus-lug layout.
6105  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 05:03:09 AM
Checking reviews on PSU's brought another point - if it has multiple 12v rails (like the e-Power ones do) - check the wattage rating of them. Case in point, a 1500w e-Power one I saw has 6 rails - but each has a max rating of only 264w (12v*22a) and the blades need 300w each or more...

Really looking like multiple supplies is gonna be the easiest way to go.
6106  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 03:33:52 AM
Speaking of power supplies, been looking around at some for my rig when it comes. One thing I noticed is that many 1500w supplies have 2 different ratings depending on the voltage feeding it. Especially server PSU's.

As in rated 1500w only with 180-240vac feeding it, 950w with 100-129vac in. Just sayin' - pay attention to that possibility and double check the specs.
6107  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 11, 2014, 01:22:40 AM
My kit has arrived.

I'll snap some pics.

First a few quick notes. There was no documentation regarding proper assembly, though I was told it would be included. Most of it is self explanatory.

One set of the pins on the backplane are messed up. I don't know if this was due to improper shipping, because you can see just how bent out of place they are in comparison to the holes they are meant to be seated in just by looking at it. I'm weary of trying to put the pins back into their proper alignment just because if something were to go wrong I don't want them to deny RMA.  

Also my cage is bent, and noticeably so. To the point where if I were attempting to put another module in the cage it would not fit. Looks like no upgrades for me even if I purchased one with the new backplane.

The noticeable bend in the cage must have been prior to shipping because the fan that is on that part of the cage is only secured with three of four screws. This is because the bend does not allow for the holes to properly align. Of course this is going to lead to a fan that rattles causing undue noise.

I'll be putting a call in to Mr. Zipkin momentarily to gain some insight into what to do.
Eep.. packaging for transport...

Um, shipping populated cages is not a good idea. 'Specially ones with cards that have big heatsinks on them unless they are well secured by locking bars. Even then boards can flex. Is best to document  any cabling to be done, number the cards to their slots and remove them for ESD-safe bubble-wrapping. Just make sure it is clear how they go back in.

If the assemblies are in a case, that helps a lot but... Still have to be careful and make sure the boards are locked in.

Trust me - we ship our equipment all over the world (mainly to Taiwan) and if something can be shook loose and bang around, it will. Fairly often. Won't even mention one shipment we were notified of that apparently had a fork lift fork ran through it. As in through its wood crate and punching a hole through one side of a 11ga steel cabinet...
6108  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 04:54:39 PM
does anyone know how to reset the amt software settings. im locked out of the rig ffs

I think we need to find out if there is a reset switch, if not how to restore things if they break, etc.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<THIS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Most reliable method IMO is to make a dd image of the SDcard and keep it backed up somewhere (or two) this way if you ever needed to restore it would just be a matter of running the DD command (windows or Linux) back onto the sdcard or its replacement.  

If there is no switch, please let there be a set of pads (where one would go) that can be shorted together momentarily... should be std practice. That followed by a protected default config that when thing is reset overwrites the current working (or munged) copy of setup then does a reboot.
6109  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
Can you PuTTY into the IP address? Now need to know if AMT loaded an editor like VIM on it and what flavor 'ux it uses (Arch?).

If you can get in and there is an editor look for config files, usually under  /etc/config  or  /etc/cgminer. Something like that. Could start with just cd /etc (space between the cd and the slash) to see what is under.
6110  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
There should be a tiny black button on the RasPi maybe2mm dia. on almost as tiny little metal box. That would be the reset default button. With power on, press and hold for 5-10 sec and then wait for system to reload & reboot.

Only question is did AMT allow for this.
6111  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
A few questions about setting up the full AMT 1.2 miner:

1) I assume I can just aquire an IP (or set one statically)
2) Set my pool.
3) browse to the IP set and type admin/admin
4) Begin mining.


I don't really understand all the unplugging the Pi, do I really need to mess with that or the wires?

Also, if the flash is proprietary:

1) is there a way to back it up?
2) can you post a generic BIN file.
3) would it be possible if the board went bad just to buy another one and restore the file(s).

Thanks
Does the RasPi have a micro-SD card on it? Many do. That is where the OS and such are. Just pop it out and copy like any other mem card.
6112  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 01:20:50 PM
<big snip>
 Don't trust the lawyers, they are in the business of making themselves money, not you. (Don't be fooled by the gains "they made themselves", ask them "what gains did you make for your clients". You will see that they fall silent, when asked that question. The answer is "none", no "gains" were made for the clients.)

P.P.S. SPARTA! (#300... Come on people, that should have been in the first post on this page!)
Reminds me of the customers yachts story. Short version: A lawyer (or a financial adviser) wants to take a friend out on his boat. They get to the marina and the friend is marveling at all the various yachts around. "Yes, there are many bankers, lawyers and FA's with boats here" says the Lawyer. His friend then asks, "Where are their customers yachts?"

Yes they may 'punish the company' but in the end the lawyers get most of the money.
6113  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 03:06:34 AM
And if using the HDMI on the RasPi t find the IP, do we plug in usb keyboard/mouse to it?

Und one more - does the RasPi have a reset button on it to reset to defaults?
6114  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 02:38:20 AM
hopefully the hardest part is setting a laptop/netbook/whatever to the right subnet the miner is on so ya can get in. Or - since the RasPi has HMDI out and we see USB ports - maybe just takes a kybd & mouse like security vid recorders do? Now THAT would be nice. Truly stand-alone
could you install team viewer on the pi? app on the phone, run it that way.
With my Ant Pharm, don't really have to watch them directly. Just setup and let'em rip. If power goes out  the data is saved to flash so when rebooted if not too long went by they pickup where they left off. Odds are AMT's will as well.

On that note. Funny thing... I have 3 2kva UPS's and permanent 15kw genset backup at home after power was out in my part of Detroit area for over 2 weeks. Happened 3 years ago, before that biggie power would so out briefly several times a year. Put in the backup and of course now the power has barely blinked since the Big Fix...

Anyway, I just monitor them through my pool's web portal that also sends emails/txt's as chosen.

I know you are a huge fan of the ANT S1s, but the design is not clean enough for me. The photos don't look good how the wires connected to the boards. To be fair there are other miners with the same design. I don't like when empty PCIE connectors are in the case. S1s sent the only one who does that. For that reason I skipped the S1s, but I actually I am buying hosted S10s and may host S10s myself. Being that someone else will host my S10s for at least 3 months, it's not as big of a deal because they are being tested in their datacenter in Isreal.
Wouldn't say huge fan and they certainly are raw OEM-style modules. They do package well in a 4U rack case though. 4 can fit side-by-side in on with a 2U high rack server PSU on top if ya want. Run power from the PSU lugs to the term blocks on S1's and now clean as a whistle. And a lot more pricey.

Hmm, do the AMT blades have terminal blocks in parallel with the PCIe power sockets so ya can hard wire off a bus system?

 Mainly, the s1's are cheap(ish now) - they weren't a month ago, work great, and are available through many distributors. Other than that - hungry power hogs but still pay for their feed several x over even on the worst block days.

And yes, that Israeli chip looks mighty interesting. Also not about to even think about buying until they have systems shipping...
6115  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 01:58:45 AM
hopefully the hardest part is setting a laptop/netbook/whatever to the right subnet the miner is on so ya can get in. Or - since the RasPi has HMDI out and we see USB ports - maybe just takes a kybd & mouse like security vid recorders do? Now THAT would be nice. Truly stand-alone
could you install team viewer on the pi? app on the phone, run it that way.
With my Ant Pharm, don't really have to watch them directly. Just setup and let'em rip. If power goes out  the data is saved to flash so when rebooted if not too long went by they pickup where they left off. If too many stales they just reload. Odds are AMT's will as well.

On that note. Funny thing... I have 3 2kva UPS's and permanent 15kw genset backup at home after power was out in my part of Detroit area for over 2 weeks. Happened 3 years ago, before that biggie power would so out briefly several times a year. Put in the backup and of course now the power has barely blinked since the Big Fix...

Anyway, I just monitor them through my pool's web portal that also sends emails/txt's as chosen.
6116  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 01:48:03 AM


We'll see how they handle things. My guess is they are getting the later orders shipped first with the thought that if they are going to honor the MPP they should get  into the newest orders first.

Then anyone who should have MPP can be dealt with at that point based on oldest order first. 

I sure hope this is what is happening. It's kind of hard watching people get miners ordered in Jan.-Feb. When my orders go back to mid Nov. However I decided not to opt for the kit as I would rather wait for the upgrade. I did e-mail them quite a while back letting them know my expectations and never received a response so I'm not sure what their plan is, or if they have one.

On a side note: one morning in Nov. when trying to decide to invest in a miner I woke up and checked the price of bitcoin and the price was $420.00 on the money.
Being a fan I took it as a good omen. I placed my 1st order 11/19. I had no idea I would be sitting here nearly 6 months later hoping to get my equipment by 4/20 and wondering if I will get at least a %42.0 return on my investment. Undecided

Could have done worse (Monarch folks). Some placed orders back in August of last year. Yeesh! Glad I'm fairly new to the BTC scene having started on a whim in early Feb with 2 10ghs Jala's.

Still think that if the A1's work decently, still a fair price over all even with higher than expected power. Still way less per/ghs than Ants use. Just glad I took the dive with getting an A1 system at the tail end of this fun.
6117  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 12:42:13 AM
hopefully the hardest part is setting a laptop/netbook/whatever to the right subnet the miner is on so ya can get in. Or - since the RasPi has HMDI out and we see USB ports - maybe just takes a kybd & mouse like security vid recorders do? Now THAT would be nice. Truly stand-alone
6118  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 10, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
If they are anything like the ones for Ants...  Roll Eyes Also only gotten on-line but free for all. Needlessly wordy and sorely lacking proper procedure and critical info. Like LAN menu is for the asic router - do not touch. WAN is where ya setup the 'net IP...

1st Ant I did took me 45min to figure things out. Now only takes maybe 5min including the reboot. Here's to hoping AMT did a better job on what should be a very simple procedure!
6119  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 09, 2014, 11:41:21 PM
Do these have a web interface aside from an IP setup, and pool/password menus? Would be nice. (Ants do). All kinds of info including network traffic is available. Also allows for all the usual 'ux type shells, system maint., & other goodies.
6120  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Official Thread: AMT on: April 09, 2014, 11:04:28 PM
Well I finally got a reply. They will be shipping my miners at the end of the week. I will be posting an in-depth review on them once I get them. Seeing as they use a rasberryPI I will be easily able to query resource usage and power output as well, anyone know what linux distro AMT is running on the miners? Not that it matters BUT if I can install a single tool to monitor power usage it would go a long way towards getting repeatable consistent results from the OS itself. Powerstat is the tool I would be using as part of my test suite to measure power.

Maybe with some work we can squeeze out some more juice if the right tweaks are in place. But for the moment I think just getting the hardware and measuring its baseline performance is the first step.

Invest in one of these...http://www.p3international.com/products/p4400.html


Yea got one of those too. Its part of my testing suite. I just want to see if the OS reports the same general information. Consistency and repeatability is the goal here which the killawatt can do on its own too BUT having a second internalized tool I can refer to later on can help too. I will set it up in my office for now as I cleared the circuit for a single unit temporarily until I get it housed in the colo. I just wanted to get a review out on it.

I will do a written review with alot of detail and data. Prepared the format already just gotta start setting it up. Figure this will be important for benchmarks and such. Might post it in a separate thread tho. It will get lost in here.
One biggie benchmark should definitely be HW error rate on them both raw and calc'd per the usual format,  Error % = HW/(diffA+DiffR+HW)*100

The worst of my S1's over the past 4 days stands at 0.0000019768% error rate. My best one adds several more zeros in there... Raw HW counts: worst 36,438, best Ant a mear 526. Again that is over the past 4d 17h 23m 40s. Frickin' outstanding!

My only comparison is my 2 10ghs Jala's. One holds @ 0.37% the other @ 6.7% calc's error rate...
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