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6121  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Double-spending with 6 confirmations on: October 06, 2012, 12:21:11 PM
2. The attacker sends a transaction only to the victim, all other nodes know nothing about the transaction.

Unless the "victim" is running some non-standard software or have been configured specifically to not broadcast tx's this should not be possible (unless you are saying the attacker owns the victims internet connection).


If the victim broadcasts tx then the attacker receives it.

I thought that your point was that other nodes know nothing about the transaction - how has the attacker stopped that from occurring (i.e. the victim won't only send the tx to the attacker)?
6122  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Double-spending with 6 confirmations on: October 06, 2012, 12:17:45 PM
2. The attacker sends a transaction only to the victim, all other nodes know nothing about the transaction.

Unless the "victim" is running some non-standard software or have been configured specifically to not broadcast tx's this should not be possible (unless you are saying the attacker owns the victims internet connection).

Actually even if they did own the victims internet connection they would still have to be rather amazing to be able to complete the 6 confirmations within one hour. Wink
6123  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Migrate your wallet to another client on: October 06, 2012, 11:53:46 AM
I think the simplest way at the moment would be to keep your bitcoin-qt installed after you install your new client then create a new wallet with the new client and send all your BTC (perhaps requiring a tx fee which really will be most likely negligible) to the new address in the new client.

(although I haven't read the above poster's link)

Edit: Now that I have looked at the link I don't think you want to do this as you could easily miss your change addresses (which are not so easy to find with the Satoshi client).
6124  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: With GLBSE gone, can somebody PLEASE write something like this or better? on: October 06, 2012, 08:05:08 AM
I'm not quite sure of the current progress but I think the best solution will probably the "colored coin" concept as it doesn't require any central authority to hold any information.
6125  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is it possible - A block chain for stocks? on: October 06, 2012, 05:45:53 AM
You might want to search around here for "colored coins" as they are a method by which the bitcoin blockchain itself can actually be used as a mechanism for issuing and later transferring individual "shares" (being bitcoin amounts) from an originating tx.
6126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Influence of ASICS once all Bitcoins are found on: October 06, 2012, 03:02:20 AM
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The network can only be kept secure by having enough distributed hashing power that one miner (or more likely pool) simply cannot obtain more than 50% of this power.

So this ongoing hashing arms race is exactly what I assume Satoshi would have predicted (although maybe not happening as fast as it has) and I very much doubt it will stop after the arrival of ASIC.
6127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 05:36:27 PM
No. Imagine what will happen if everyone uses clients that don't need full blockchain.

True - but I really don't think there is going to be much alternative for the average person (who is really going to wait potentially days for their software to start working?).
6128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 05:28:24 PM
Being condescending to someone with less computer skills is probably not a "feel good" adoption marketing strategy. I have been working in the computer field (for many) years. There are still facets of Bitcoin that I find challenging. I see a lot of strides being made and that is good, but the most important piece is the "attitude" we take towards people like Grandma, or our friend who still has a flip phone etc.

Yup - very important - my math skills suck yet I am able to build a complete web site in C+ (with no scripting apart from some UI stuff) in minutes.

I was amazed to find out recently that my nephew has a Rasberry Pi when I had never even heard of such a thing before - trying to say that Bitcoin belongs to some sort of "ultra geek club" will never help the general adoption of Bitcoin - but good software will.

In regards to the blockchain download - yes that is a problem (but you can download it as a set of files and there are other clients that don't need to use it).
6129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
The biggest obstacle? Infinite stupidity, of course!

Do you really expect your grandmother to understand ECDSA (and I admit I have only a basic understanding of this myself) in order to hold on to her money?

(not trying to be offensive but I think it is important that we don't expect the "end users" of Bitcoin to all be so computer/algorithmically literate)

but perhaps you are instead referring to ponzi schemes Wink
6130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 04:57:46 PM
You are unfortunately very correct. Until the design can virtually guarantee, absent gross negligence, the safety of your wallet and ease of currency transformation, we will be stuck in our little world of our own making.

All very true - but to be a little more positive there has been quite a bit of work on improving this (multi-sig being perhaps the most significant achievement even though still not yet user friendly).

Give it some time and I think the solutions will be coming.
6131  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin ever did go completely mainstream... on: October 04, 2012, 04:45:51 PM
Personally I somehow doubt that it could ever get that far (although I would love to see it do so) - I think the best that can really be hoped for (realistically) is for Bitcoin to become a major currency for online services and virtual goods as well as a new form of stored wealth that is much more easily transacted than gold (or other commodities).

Governments (while they continue to exist) are extremely unlikely to ever give up control of their fiat currencies (or of course their taxes).
6132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forbes- "Bitcoin Prevents Monetary Tyranny" on: October 04, 2012, 04:37:11 PM
Great article, but is Bitcoin really best served by a picture of Mel Gibson from Braveheart??!

Would you prefer a picture of Bruce Wagner? Wink
6133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 04:32:26 PM
Ultimately, I believe, that the BTC community must transform from a cloistered technology community to that of a customer service focused business model; which puts the average consumers needs as the first priority.

I think this is very true - and I don't think governments have anything to worry about Bitcoin when it comes to that (as average consumers are already happy to give out all of their personal information to use credit cards anyway).
6134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Potential obstacles for mass adoption of BTC on: October 04, 2012, 04:01:20 PM
I think that in many "western" countries taxation itself has been moving from income tax to consumption tax (making it more relevant how you spend your money than how you earn it) and at the same time banks have been tending to report all account tx's to tax bureaus (and will generally withhold a large percentage of interest payments without customers providing their tax reporting information).

This tends to make it actually not difficult at all for governments to tax people who convert BTC to their local currency (via a bank transfer) and looking at the identification requirements that many of the BTC exchanges are requiring I can't see how people can in any way easily avoid government scrutiny with any serious amounts of money.

Basically if you are using an exchange to convert a large amount of BTC to any fiat currency then I think the chances of avoiding detection (and thus taxation) by the government is rather small.

P.S. In regards to SR perhaps the whole "war on drugs" could simply be turned into another profitable sales tax by legalization. Smiley
6135  Other / Off-topic / Re: Private keys on: October 03, 2012, 04:13:25 AM
I'm sure someone will come up with a PC (desktop) version that works offline so I don't DOS blockexplorer.com with my list of keys.

This could be fairly easily added to the Satoshi client but will require an additional index (and is not currently a priority).

I have already offered a 10BTC bounty for a successful pull request (i.e. one that is pulled into the master branch by the dev team) that will accomplish this. Maybe if others want to add to this bounty we could get this feature added sooner rather than later.
6136  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: If I lose wallet.dat can I recover it with the passphrase? on: October 03, 2012, 03:42:51 AM
I am talking about the passphrase the bitcoin-qt clients asks whenever I want to send bitcoins or create a new receiving address.

If this is not the on for generating a "brain wallet", how can I proceed to create one?

The standard client cannot generate a "deterministic wallet" (the term "brain wallet" generally refers to the generation of a single address via SHA256 of a long pass phrase whereas "deterministic wallet" refers to using a seed and pass phrase to generate a series of addresses).

If you are keen to create such a wallet then you should look into using Armory or Electrum.
6137  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Elliptic Curve algorithm equivalent to RSA's asymmetric encryption? on: October 02, 2012, 07:22:49 AM
This means that ECDSA is only used to check the message integrity. As far as the algorithm is concerned, the trasnmission can be: "plain_text_message+signature"

Interesting - I must admit I have never properly looked into the details of ECDSA before (and although my logic is good my other math is rather average).

As the Bitcoin ledger is public it of course makes sense that nothing is encrypted but instead just correctly signed.
6138  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Elliptic Curve algorithm equivalent to RSA's asymmetric encryption? on: October 02, 2012, 06:03:30 AM
Did you look at this link?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_Curve_DSA
6139  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Increasing the number of keys in key pool on: October 01, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
From what I've gathered it doesn't throw away those keys but after the encryption doesn't use them (at least for change addresses) either (I guess in the off chance somehow you managed to get funds sent to one of those addresses).
6140  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: transaction-comments on blockchain.info on: September 30, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
Okay - thanks for the clarification (still hoping that feature will be added provided you can prove you own at least one of the inputs in the tx).
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