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6141  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: iPhone IOS Bitcoin wallet is here! (From Blockchain.info) on: May 30, 2012, 05:38:14 AM
Looks like Apple is getting a little heat for their policy:

Flattr: we’re victims of an ‘app dictatorship’
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It’s like a jury that judges you but doesn’t explain why,” he said. “It’s an app dictatorship, or a monopoly. The problem is that we’re centralizing all of our communications… big corporates say they want a free market, but they really want to lock people up. It’s not just Apple: Google is going this way, Facebook is definitely going this way.”

 - http://gigaom.com/europe/flattr-apple-app-dictatorship/

Duh: Apple doesn’t want Flattr money flowing through its apps if it can’t take a cut
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This has to do with the fact that using the very disruptive service Flattr, apps can process micro-payments without Apple’s involvement. Basically, Apple isn’t getting a cut of the action.
- http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/05/28/duh-apple-doesnt-want-flattr-money-flowing-through-its-apps-if-it-cant-take-a-cut

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The following point in their App Store Review Guidelines:

There was one clue given, that might be useful as a workaround for this app. 

21.2 The collection of donations must be done via a web site in Safari or an SMS

 - http://blog.flattr.net/2012/05/apple-rejected-flattr-and-its-not-the-end

So ya, why not.  Have the app create the script and route that out through using SMS.  (i.e., the app can function with network connectivity turned off, so you prove the app isn't performing the transaction).  Unless that violates the spirit of their policy and they would reject it on that grounds, who knows.

I wonder what the difference is though between an app that uses Flattr  and an app that uses PayPal, as far as being used to transfer funds from one person to another.
6142  Economy / Economics / Re: Am I misunderstanding this or? on: May 30, 2012, 03:37:45 AM
No, no, you're doing it wrong! You should have waited! Those coins will be worth x times more in n years!

Or you could just replace them in bulk I guess... Hmm... *rubs his chin*

Correct ..., bitcoins can be used for spending to save 4%, and then in response more can be purchased at an exchange to replenish at a cost of 0.6%.  It's a form of arbitrage.  And for that reason, no matter what future expectation I have for bitcoin's exchange rate, the fear of spending my "good money" isn't a factor when deciding whether to pay with bitcoin or pay with VISA/Mastercard or other payment method.
6143  Economy / Economics / Re: Am I misunderstanding this or? on: May 30, 2012, 03:18:15 AM
I spent almost $400 worth of bitcoins to buy exactly $400 worth of prepaid cell phone top-up card numbers

I got a discount from face value of 4% compared to the precise exchange rate at the time.  I did it, in part, because I knew that Virgin Mobile USA was just about to alter their resalers' terms in such a way that future discounts were unlikely.

I would have done the same thing.  We bitcoiners sure are a bunch of penny pinching-cheap bastards, aren't we?
6144  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: simple script to generate address from private key on: May 30, 2012, 12:47:46 AM
WARNING #2: I just made this script today and I'm fairly new to bitcoin. Use at your own risk !

Just wanted to make sure that part stands out..., since money is involved.
6145  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Command line script to create a public address from a private key on: May 30, 2012, 12:45:50 AM
Necro thread sorry ...

A python utility here:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84238.0
6146  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: how to generate a valid private-key + recv address in PHP? on: May 30, 2012, 12:42:35 AM
Incidentally, a Python version here:

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84238
6147  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-05-28 BrotherJohnF - Silver Update 5/28/12 Capital Controls (video) on: May 29, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
Links discussed in the the video:

 - http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-05-28/capital-controls-coming-greece-and-switzerland
 - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/05/12/the-somali-american-remittance-dilemma/

And more conversation on the Somalia / Hawala issue:

 - http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/2459/bitcoins-somalia
 - http://www.quora.com/Bitcoin/Might-Bitcoin-have-a-success-as-a-hawala-system

And elsewhere here re: capital controls:

Argentina, on the verge of a new currency collapse
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75059.0

Our cash stuck in Argentina following currency exchange restrictions:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64997.0
6148  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Bets of Bitcoin - Bitcoin betting on real world events on: May 29, 2012, 09:38:36 PM
We strongly discourage very long wait times between bet deadline and event date.

What would be useful is the ability to transfer a bet to another BetsOfBitco.in account.  (Well, useful as an alternate approach to having  a market system like what Intrade offers).   That way I might trade with another bettor at a discount in order to cash out early without having to wait for the bet to formally be closed and paid out.  If BetsOfBitco.in needed to assess a transaction fee for that, that would seem fair too.
6149  Economy / Economics / Re: Victoria Grant explains Fictional-Reserve Banking and why everything is crashing on: May 29, 2012, 09:15:52 PM
At the same event was a talk by Libertarian presidential candidate (#2 rank in straw poll) Bill Still.

It is worth a listen regardless of whether or not you believe in his platform:
 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68sOuMkhsU
6150  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation on: May 29, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
I put in the basic claim based on my vague memory of what I had in there - I was waiting for something more. An email or something.

Same here, haven't seen any response to indicate that the claim was received and / or status.

I'm hoping that any announcements posted on the forum would also be sent out to the e-mail addresses from the claims.
6151  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dwolla email - "We need to verify your identity!" on: May 29, 2012, 07:53:15 PM
So the common denominator for those receiving this e-mail are that they've dealing with anything but trivial amounts (e.g., $100-ish range and under) and have transacted with either bitcoin exchanges or with other bitcoiners.

Doing both will almost guarantee that you get this letter, though it may not happen until after your transaction has already occurred.  You will not be able to withdraw the next time though without verifying first.
6152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] New AML Policy for all Dwolla users. on: May 29, 2012, 07:49:13 PM
As for dwolla requiring ID to withdraw to my bank account.. i did a withdraw just last week and it arrived fine.
How do I verify if I require dwolla verificiation? Is not proving I own the checking account enough with them when I first started up?

You won't know until you get a "happy email from Dwolla" (search forum for Dwolla AML email). 

Here's the message that they're sending out.  After being flagged, a photo ID is required to get verified.

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84108.0

If you hit some magic amount from certain counterparties then Dwolla will indicate you need to perform verification (photo ID).

That is what appears to be common denominator ... accepting Dwolla from exchanges or other bitcoiners will make it more likely that you will get flagged.  Dwolla is less aggressive for smaller amounts (e.g., under a couple hundred perhaps)?
6153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] New AML Policy for all Dwolla users. on: May 29, 2012, 07:28:30 PM
It appears I do not have a verified account at MTGOX.
Yet when I goto the withdraw funds area, select my newly created withdraw method of "dwolla" which I did last week,
it still seems to allow it to function.

The "must have a verified Mt. Gox account" requirement newly imposed by Mt. Gox  is for transferring funds from Dwolla to Mt. Gox.  They also might require an account to be verified for other reasons, including from where you've accessed the exchange (e.g., using Tor or a shared, public access point), amount of the transfer (e.g., over $1K USD in a single day or monthly limits being hit). 

Even if you do enter a withdrawal order, Mt. Gox is not able to accommodate demand for withdrawals, so before they will actually do the Dwolla Account to Account (A2A) transfer, there will be a delay of like 6 days.  And then, it now appears that Dwolla will not allow you to withdraw to your bank (or any other transaction) until you've verified your Dwolla account as they too now seem to be requiring photo ID.

tl;dr: There are more convenient options out there.   Both BitFloor and CampBX will do ACH withdrawals direct to your bank.  BitInstant will be offering that soon as well.
6154  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: USD between MTGOX <--> DWOLLA on: May 29, 2012, 06:51:42 PM
Looking for a small trade. I have $30 MtGox USD that I want to trade for someone's $30 Dwolla USD. PM me if interested

There currently are open offers on #bitcoin-otc:

#bitcoin-otc buy orders (filtered on "Dwolla" being in the description):
 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?type=BUY&notes=dwolla

#bitcoin-otc orders (filtered on "Dwolla" being the payment method)
 - http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?eitherthing=DWOLLA

Thought the offers list BTC, they'll generally also be happy to trade their Dwolla USD for MTGUSD at 1:1.
6155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] New AML Policy for all Dwolla users. on: May 29, 2012, 06:45:53 PM
BitCoin is becoming less and less useful with stuff like this. I used to be able to get my measly $35/month mining profits out via Dwolla. Now I can't even do that and due to my location here it's impossible to get "Verified". No utility bills in my name.

With these constant changes in policy BitCoin has become a circus act that I'm no longer interested in watching. I'll be selling off my small mining gear and leaving it all behind.

Well, Bitcoin doesn't exist for just for providing a revenue stream for miners, it exists to be a payment system that solves the exact problem that is causing you frustration.

Dwolla may be out of the picture for you, but there are other options.  CampBX and BitFloor both allow ACH withdrawal.  BitInstant is going to be adding that at some point in the future. 

There are other methods for cashing out.

 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Selling_bitcoins
 - http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade
6156  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: So, what happend to mtgox > Dwolla? on: May 29, 2012, 06:34:25 PM
i already got rejected two times on the verified process,

Well, Mt. Gox now has a "your Mt. Gox account must be verified (photo id)" in order to add funds with Dwolla.  They might require verification to withdraw I suppose too, for instance if you've used Tor or a public access point or are trying to do a larger transaction (over $1K USD). 

So your account still shows as not verified?
 - https://mtgox.com/forms/verification
And you've sent a photo id (color)?
6157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: WHMCS Hacked, Client data leaked online on: May 29, 2012, 06:06:11 PM
SQL Injection patch released.

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The events of last week have obviously put a lot of focus on WHMCS in recent days from undesirable people

So nice to see that Bitcoin is not involved whatsoever with any of this ongoing mess  :-)

 - http://forum.whmcs.com/showthread.php?47828-Security-Patch
6158  Other / Off-topic / Re: Creating Reputation on: May 29, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
Quickest way to increase your reputation:

1) Delete all of your posts.

2) PM all members that quoted you and pay them to delete that post.

3) Delete your forum account.

4) Never return.

That was about the rudest response I can imagine.

The OP has been a member of this forum since January.  If you viewed vite's post history, you'll see many posts in Spanish.  For bitcoin to become a global currency  it needs participation from those around the globe.   Oddly enough for some of us, the majority of the those around the globe don't speak English as their primarily language.

Specifically, what that means is that if someone uses a word in the wrong context or even if that person does something that might be off-putting, a more appropriate response is to provide guidance and to cultivate community.

vite, to answer your question properly, more information is needed.  For instance, one of the benefits of having a good trust history is being able to find a counterparty willing to sell bitcoins, even in larger purchase amounts, in exchange for PayPal.  If that is the goal then the best way is to start small and build from there.

There are other techniques also.  The barrier for gaining trust locally is much lower than the barrier for a pseudonymous party trying to find new customers online.  If there are any traders or merchants near you who accept bitcoin, try to meet in person and do a small trade.  "Have met in-person" is a strong endorsement.

In addition to #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust (WoT) and forum history, there are other reputation systems.  BitMit has seller ratings, for instance, similar to eBay and that rating might be helpful.  Heatware is a reputation service.  Ogrr.com, for instance, is a marketplace that takes another approach.  In addition to being able to see ratings history and friends the service lets you see the your counterparty's BTC balance so that you as seller can at least know they have the capacity to make the purchase.

Personally, even if the counterparty has a great forum history or heatware rating for instance, that really means little thanks to identity theft.  BitcoinTalk forum allows weak passwords, for instance, and many people use the same password with their forum account as they use elsewhere where security breaches are continually occurring (like Bitcoinica's incident earlier this month, or WHMCS's breach last week).  That's why the #bitcoin-otc WoT is so valuable.  It doesn't use username and password.   It uses GPG authentication to all but eliminate the risk of identity theft.

And that's why many who transact person-to-person for any considerable amount will want the counterparty to first have an -otc WoT trust history and to be authenticated before entering a transaction.
6159  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Kronos.io questions and properties on: May 29, 2012, 10:35:30 AM
  • since the margin seems to be calculated in BTC (is that correct?), I'd expect this tradeable margin to be independent from the current exchange rate. So you can't be zhoutonged just by a decreasing BTC rate, correct?

I don't think there would be any way where the margin wouldn't fluctuate with the exchange rate.  i.e., if you are long and the BTC/USD drops, your margin will drop.
6160  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Diablo 3 Accounts on: May 29, 2012, 10:16:14 AM
As a Blizzard MVP, let me remind everyone that there is literally no safe way to do this.

If it was a hacked account, here are the steps the original owner would do to recover the account:
 - http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/compromised-diablo-iii-account
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