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6141  Economy / Gambling / Re: Clash Royale Tournament #1 | BitcoinTalk Championship [Free] [Sponsored] Ended on: May 17, 2018, 09:14:02 AM
Amit, I have received your payment. Thanks a lot! Let us know when the second tournament is starting. I will be better equipped this time! The last two matches I played while waiting for my cab to go home after the office. I was Very Exhausted after 9 hours shift and couldn't concentrate properly! This time, my strategies will be different!
6142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi nakamato needs to come out ! on: May 16, 2018, 11:28:30 PM
Well you know it's super funny about how people are sharing their stories about being Satoshi nakamato and how they were hiding underneath and how they are ready to get the limelight.

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2016/05/02/bitcoin-inventor-satoshi-nakamoto-finally-revealed.html

Not just there there is also this one Indian claiming to be the founder

And what's funnier is that there is this man that goes by the name of Satoshi nakamato and he denies that he is the creator of Bitcoins

https://youtu.be/BoboO6QPGow

What do you think will we be able to find the real Satoshi nakamato before we die ? 😂 Idk it's getting funnier and funnier.

P.S. Some people claims that it's been invented by Artificial intelligence ... Good bye world ! 😂😂😂


We have seen a lot of funny claims of many people around the world about themselves being the creator of bitcoin. But I personally don't want him to come to the limelight. I believe the creator of bitcoin deserves a happy and peaceful life. If Satoshi Nakamoto comes out in limelight, a majority of the enforcement agencies will try to capture him and put him behind the bars for his innovation.  I don't think he/they deserves that.

The world is full of mysteries and one addition to that will not do any harm. But the revelation of the true identity will make a lot of harm to him as well as to the entire crypto community.
6143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Supreme Court Overturns a Decades Long Ban on Sports Betting on: May 16, 2018, 10:58:16 PM
The Supreme Court has struck down a 1992 federal law that effectively prevented most states from legalizing sports betting, clearing up a legal gray area and opening a door for state governments to join in what has become a lucrative industry.

"Congress can regulate sports gambling directly, but if it elects not to do so, each State is free to act on its own," the court wrote in a decision released Monday.


Source


I was extremely surprised that the current right leaning court would be the ones to overturn sports betting but a 6-3 decision is a pretty strong one. This can only be a good thing for gambling, as there will be an influx of US bettors and more competition, leading to lower juices, better UIs, etc.



Free and borderless economy is the future and such legal restrictions are not helpful to an economy. Sports betting is a billion dollar industry so you can imagine the kind of tax revenue US government can earn from it. I believe the US government is eying that revenue only especially when it has gotten into a import export duty war with another big economy like China and constantly on war with middle east. I welcome this step taken by the US supreme court as it will bring more competition in this industry and help it become organized while making the end users benefitted.
6144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: May 16, 2018, 09:21:27 AM
It's not a negative way of earning , gambling is more like a easy sort of way for making quick cash and the chances of making that is possible but the problem is within the people who use this method , most of them do make profit but because of there greed they continue to gamble and lose it all. This is why many consider it to be negative otherwise there are many ways to make money from gambling

Definitely right mate. Many have understood the existence of gambling when the real purpose of it is to give pleasures and entertainment to people. But because gambling gives us quick money that is why people tend to gamble to gain more without thinking that there is no way to always win in gambling and most of the time gamblers losses. And because they tend to bring back what they’ve lose, it ended up with more losses.
Gambling is something not good for anyone of us and that it only results in loss of money. It is just like an addiction of alcohol or any other drug and the one who gets into find it very much difficult to get rid of this curse and at the end, he is only left with regret as he has lost all his money in gambling while trying to make some good earning. We all need to make ourselves understand this thing that there is nothing good in gambling.

That's just one part of the story and not the complete one. I understand and agree that gambling addiction is not good and a lot of people have lost money for their gambling addiction. However, there are people who have won big in gambling and secured their future. Even though they are less in numbers, but  they exists. If you are continuously loosing money in gambling, you must leave the game and never come back because not everyone is considered as winner. People loose money and majority of the gamblers understand the risk of gambling. Why blaming the entire industry for that?
6145  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Indian crypto currency exchange takes Central Bank to court against recent ban on: May 16, 2018, 09:12:50 AM
Here is the latest development on the case:

Indian Supreme Court denied to issue interim injunction to RBI on the decision of crypto ban. The next hearing date is tomorrow, 17 May 2018.

News source: https://bcfocus.com/news/supreme-court-of-india-favors-rbi-restrictions-on-cryptocurrency-by-denying-interim-injunction/9039/

I encourage everyone to follow the twitter handle of Crypto Kanoon to get all latest development news on this case. They are a group of lawyers who have been engaged by the petitioners to handle this case.

Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/cryptokanoon

I will keep checking on the progresses made in this case and keep the thread updated!
6146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Obvious Manipulation and the idiots with their technical analysis getting on: May 16, 2018, 09:01:40 AM
The Obvious Manipulation and the idiots with their technical analysis getting excited over nothing

It is so obvious that some kind of manipulation is choking the potential price increases of all cryptos. So what is the point of all youtube vids, reddit threads, telegram announcements about new developments. Price will hardly increase anymore.

Those bastards have done it and are weakening the potential gains investors could have.


Manipulation was always a part of mainstream stock market even after heavy regulation by the watchdogs. So it is no surprise that manipulation will take place in crypto market as well where there is no regulator of the market. So big tank sharks with deep pockets, will use the market on their favor, that's an open secret. However, I am failed to understand one thing. I will appreciate if any knowledgeable person can help me understand this.

Lets assume I have 10,000 of bitcoins with me and I am considered a shark or whale whatever you like to call it. Why would I manipulate the market to go down? What's profit I can get out of it? If I have a high exposure in bitcoin, I would always want the market to go up because my net worth will be increasing along with that. The price decrease will not be helping me in any way. That's the basic understanding I have. Can anyone please clarify?
6147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Technology Blockchain. Fantastic or unavoidable reality? on: May 15, 2018, 10:18:55 PM
Hello, friends! Smiley
I want to talk with you about the technology Blockchain.
Everyone is obsessed with Bitcoin, but many people do not suspect that Blockchain technology is much more global and more interesting.
Strong minds predict a future for him and a real revolution in all spheres of life.
I quote from the book "Blockchain Revolution" by Don Tapscott, Alex Tapscott.

""Imagine now that your" virtual self "actually belongs to you, being something of a personal avatar, and" dwells "in the" black box "of your identity that is closed from outside interference, so that you are able to monetize your data flow and publish only that information about yourself that is required to implement that or other law. Why on your driver's license to indicate any information other than that you passed the exam and demonstrated the ability to drive a car? Imagine a new era of the Internet, where your personal avatar manages the contents of your "black box" and guards it. Your faithful software servant gives only the necessary data in the prescribed volume for each situation and simultaneously picks up for you the crumbs of information that remain in your way in the digital world.
It may seem that this is a science fiction like the "Matrix" or "Avatar." However, today, blockchain technology makes this a reality. Joe Lubin, CEO of Consensus Systems, calls this concept "permanent digital identity and electronic persona" in the blockсhain."

This sounds promising and truly constructive..
What do you think about it?  This topic is certainly worthy of attention.
My opinion, it will be interesting to read for beginners. Experts of Digital World, please share a constructive and professional opinion on this topic.

It's both fantastic and probably unavoidable reality! Blockchain is not only about bitcoin. This is bitcoin is just one use case for blockchain and its power didn't end here. Corporates and governments have begun to understand the possibility in it.

Tech giants like facebook has appointed their head of messenger to a new role for exploring blockchain technology to be used within facebook. JPM bank has already applied for a blockchain related patent. A country like India where 41% of the parliamentary members are uneducated, have also tweeted that they are exploring the possible benefits of blockchain.

Blockchain is truly a technology of the future. Slowly but surely we will see it implemented in almost every areas of our daily life.
6148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling Versus Traditional Gambling on: May 15, 2018, 09:14:40 PM
What are the differences between online and traditional gambling ? Which you like the most and why ? In my opinion both the types of gambling have got their own advantages and disadvantages. You can try both for some time and then choose one based on your convenience.

Both are entirely different thing. Traditional gambling is far more diverse than online gambling option. Also traditional gambling is a measure of social status and you will hardly find people from lower income group inside a casino. Whereas online gambling has made gambling more accessible to all segment of the society where people can come and play with lower stakes and without any prejudice about their competitors.

Also the next thing difference is the availability. Casinos are not present everywhere. If I want to visit a casino, I will have to go to a different state of my country. Also I will need to have a certain amount in my bankroll which is way huge for a middle class person like me. So here online gambling comes handy by providing convenience to the gamblers.
6149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bill Gates to Bitcoin on: May 15, 2018, 11:19:16 AM
Bill Gates: I’d Short ‘Crazier, Speculative’ Bitcoin If I Could

Microsoft founder Bill Gates issued critical comments about Bitcoin May 7, telling CNBC it was a “greater fool” investment and he “would short it if he could.”

In comments during the network’s Squawk Box segment, Gates, who in February claimed cryptocurrencies had “caused deaths in a fairly direct way,” nonetheless did not discount the idea of engaging with it himself.

“As an asset class, you're not producing anything and so you shouldn't expect it to go up. It's kind of a pure 'greater fool theory' type of investment,” he said.

read more, https://cointelegraph.com/news/bill-gates-id-short-crazier-speculative-bitcoin-if-i-could

Bill gates is an awesome personality but that doesn't mean what he thinks will be true everytime. I remember, his old friend Mr. Buffet was also present in that show who is a known hater of bitcoin. So I believe it's just peer pressure.  Tongue

But seriously, market has learnt to ignore such comments from conventional old timers. They have lived their life and now it's our time to live ours. Why bother listening to them? Even the crypto market doesn't show any impact to such comments anymore. Simply ignore!
6150  Economy / Economics / Re: Facebook CoFounder Wants $3 Trillion Tax On Rich To Fund Universal Basic Income on: May 15, 2018, 09:27:41 AM
There are a few good points made here.

This is one potential scenario under which universal basic income might have a hope of succeeding and balancing out global economies.

It could easily turn into a disaster like social security where excess collected taxes are consistently spent on things which have absolutely nothing to do with social security. Many taxes like road taxes, which are supposed to be utilized towards maintaining roads. And telecom taxes which in theory, are supposed to be spent on maintaining or upgrading internet or telecom infrastructure are often spent on war in the middle east / programs which are 100% unrelated to those things.

The potential for disaster or misuse of funds is very high. But there is a slim chance the program could be successful and achieve its intended end goal of redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor, like robin hood, in an effort to stabilize economies and prevent societies and civilization from ultimately collapsing. And things like that. Whatever the worst case, scorched earth, scenario is here in regard to things like UBI.    Wink

Firstly lets call it "USA Basic Income scheme" instead of calling it Universal, because that's what it is. Secondly, the scheme looks good in theory but hard as hell to implement. It seems like the government has to take up a job like Robinhood. get money from the riches and distribute it to the poor segment of the society. This is not a sustainable model at all. If the government wants to provide basic income to the poors, they should look at two very important factors,

1. Providing basic free education till graduation and provide subsidy after that for higher education.
2. Look at the health of the production and heavy engineering industry and facilitate for more such industries.

These are the only ways to ensure a basic income to every household of the country. Government need to empower people instead of distributing free fund to make it sustainable in long run. Providing free fund to every household will certainly boost the retail market for a while because some people will have higher purchasing power, but it will be stagnant soon after the initial boost. The growth will be capped upto that limit.

However, empowering people and the future generation by providing free education will have a very significant impact on the economy along with facilitation to open up new production industry. People will be more equipped with knowledge and the production industries will be there to provide them with jobs, which will in turn ensure a certain level of income to them. This is how a sustainable economic model can be built. Taking funds from the riches and re-distributing them to the poors will have a very limited effect and not sustainable. 
6151  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: BTC + Altcoins VS National Cryptos on: May 15, 2018, 09:05:39 AM
Hi everyone,

I have some thoughts about the future of cryptocurrencies. At some point, even if they do not get to be regulated, still the countries will have somehow their own digital currencies issued. How do we make sure that BTC will dominate the respective national cryptos of each country? Or BTC will eventually turn entirely into an asset, leaving space for other currencies as means of payment?
Simply thoughts about the future from a new guy.

I don't think any altcoin is a threat to bitcoin. If it happens to be a threat, by now we would have seen an impact especially when market is over burdened with thousands of altcoins. Same goes with national crypto currency as well because a national crypto currency will have boundary limitation and it will be strictly centralized. So the users of bitcoin will continue to use it without even giving a second thought. Probably some percentage of their portfolio will go to their respective national crypto but bitcoin will remain as the king of all time. I don't see any competition between these two.
6152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The CEO of Bitcoin got arrested for money laundering!!! 100% not 'fake news'. on: May 15, 2018, 08:48:48 AM
This guy is the CEO of Bitcoin...  (I am not making this up)
LinkedIn  
twitter



He just got nailed by USA cops!!  
Money Laundering
Interview on the arrest...
Interview (Tone Vays is such a wanker.  What is with the stupid heavy forward comb-over?  Hilarious!)


The price is going to tank bigly when this gets out.  The US is arresting EVERYBODY!!!!

I am pretty sure this is the real end of Bitcoin.  You can't have your CEO in jail and expect things to get done.

Mr. Morgan Rockwell was the CEO of bitcoin academy. It's just another business built around the crypto curreny. He was also a president of Defend BTC which is a company that provides legal services to the crypto businesses. I see no direct relation of him with the bitcoin here. He was just another person with a crypto related business. I don't see any impact of this news in the bitcoin market.

US is playing double standard game and majority of the crypto users are aware of it. Also bitcoin doesn't depends on a single person. So I am pretty sure that this is NOT the real end of bitcoin. It can't be!
6153  Economy / Gambling / Re: Clash Royale Tournament #1 | BitcoinTalk Championship [Free] [Sponsored] on: May 14, 2018, 11:01:57 PM
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6154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: May 14, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
I have seen a lot of threads in this section as well as in other online forums which always protrayes gambling as a negative line of earning money online.
It is simple math. Odds are always against player, you will most likely lose money but everyone is hopping for big win - which isn't impossible but it is rare.
I have seen people comparing gambling with alcohol addiction.
They are based on lots of studies. Research some.
I have seen people actively trying to discourage others from getting into gambling industry. What's wrong with gambling?
Nothing at all as long as you are responsible.
It is just another business and also legal in many countries. People who buys lottery tickets are also gambling only.
Yes, but you don't see people buying lottery tickets for all money they have. There is huge difference between lottery and gambling at casinos. You mentioned alcohol - one glass of beer every day won't harm you but several bottles will.
In trading industry, you bet on your speculation and in gambling industry, you bet on your luck. In both trading and gambling, there is a risk of loosing money. So why trading is seen as a good way of making money and exactly opposite for gambling?

I belive it is just a social taboo about gambling and we need to rethink our stand towards gambling. It is just another legal business. What's your view?
Apples and oranges.

Thanks for your excellent reply! Even you have mentioned that nothing is wrong with gambling if you are playing responsibly. But that entirely depends on an individual. Let me give you one scenario and ask you what would you do in that scenario.

The scenario:
Assume you don't have any bitcoin in your cold storage and suddenly win 23 bitcoins ($8700/btc) as a jackpot from a gambling website. What would you do with that money?

What I will do:
1. My mortgage value is close to 8 bitcoins. I will first pay off my mortgage and become debt free.
2. I still have 15 bitcoin with me. I will deposit that money into a bank in "Monthly income scheme" plan which will earn me a monthly income of 70k in my local currency. This income is more than enough for a married couple with a child in my country. I will be able to save from this earning.

So if you see that, I will try to secure the rest of my life with that winning. It is because I understand my responsibility and I am not a high risk taker. But there are a class of people who don't know where to stop exactly. That's when the problem starts which earned gambling a bad name. Addiction in any form is not good and we all should know when and where to stop. But do we really need to blame entire gambling industry for our own mistakes? I don't think so!
6155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: IS BITCOIN AFFECTED BY VENEZUELLA LICENCE TO EXCHANGES? on: May 14, 2018, 04:51:15 PM
National crypto currency is an absolute utopia! Any sane person and investor understands this!

I don't think so! Definitely it is not decentralized but with goverment association makes it less volatile and an excellent store of value. If i am allowed, I would rather invest in petro instead of investing in any originless ICOs because I know it comes with governmental security. That provides investors peace of mind over the fluctuations of crypto market. Especially when ICO market is filled with scammers.
6156  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Law of Blockchain: Beyond Government Control? on: May 14, 2018, 10:02:31 AM
You have raised a very interesting topic here. The answer is no for bitcoin or for any other similar currency. I am not considering centralized currencies like smart contract tokens or Tether. If we consider currencies like bitcoin and litecoin, trying to get control over it will remain as a big joke for the government watchdogs because it is not possible technically due to the pseudo anonymous nature of blockchain. Without any central location to track, the governments will end up chasing a non existent oasis in the dessert.

However, if you maintain an account with an online wallet provider, then there is a chance of being caught if the company agrees to hand over the user's data to a particular government.

The government can even try to restrict access to the internet within their boundaries the way India tried to ban porn sites. But using tor or vpn, this restriction can be easily bypassed. So it is indeed beyond control of the governments and that's the only bottleneck we are facing towards the adoption.
In general means, they would like to completely shutdown on the things that they arent able to control which blockchain technology or on decentralized coins in the market will really be their priority and figuring it out on how manage it but same as you said this would really like finding an non-existent oasis on a big dessert. There are ways but not totally a big blockage on such increasing adoption of crypto.

Probably few governments would try to completely shut it down, but the question is, would they be able to do it? I believe no! Complete blockage can't be achieved by any means. Yes, if the government starts ruling like North Korea, that every crypto users will be facing firing squad, then probably it will be achieved through fear. But technically it is not possible. There are ways to bypass government security protocol. People will start using those if a government tries to block the crypto currency by force.
Yes it can be crippled with fear but same as you said it wouldnt able to completely stop when it comes to technical means where there would be always a transaction which government cant able to monitor on. The thing ive been saying which if they would decide for close exchangers or impose not to have a complete exchange with fiat directly with crypto then this would really be a great problem but it seems this thing is nearly impossible to happen as long government can able to see benefits with crypto they will always consider it to work in other way.

Yes, that's another way how government can try to achieve their ban on cryptocurrency. This is how India is planning to implement a complete ban. The central bank has ordered all banks and any regulated financial entities to wind up their positions from crypto market. That includes winding up from providing services to any crypto exchanges. But that's for regulated b2p or b2b entities which government can control. But what they can't control is the p2p exchanges like localbitcoins or paxful. These are not very easy to track if a person keeps the transaction volume within a certain low limit. Huge volume transfers are easy to track, but for low and minimal volume, it is not very easy to track. I believe news ways to exchange will be evolved as per the market dynamics when a government will try to forcefully impose a ban.
6157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Facebook is serious about launching a Crypto !!!!! on: May 13, 2018, 06:17:37 PM
The number of active Facebook users for 2008 is 2.19 billion monthly.
Facebook is serious about launching a Crypto !!!!!
another big coin Huh
https://cryptobriefing.com/ready-for-facebook-coin/

This is rubbish and complete FUD. Facebook has no plan to launch cryptocurrency. There is no announcement and many news article website is creating clickbait articles and spreading the FUD. The reality is something different. The head of facebook messenger Mr. David Marcus has been moved to a different role to explore blockchain technology to be used within facebook to ensure data integrity and security. There has been no plan at all to launch facebook's own crypto currency. Stop this FUD and it is not helping the market. 
6158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why gambling is portrayed negatively almost everywhere? on: May 12, 2018, 04:54:17 PM
Gambling is prohibited or considered negative in almost any country or anywhere because it is very risky .. because it will create an addiction without control and will cause danger and harm yourself .. many negative impact if you gamble and you will lose money or everything, Avoid and stay away if you do not want to be poor..
Officially, every country except few ones say openly that no activity regarding gambling will be entertained and the person caught disobeying the rules and regulations will be punished strictly but they don’t do what they say.

Every state is well aware of every single affair happening in it but they don’t like to stop gambling casinos from doing their job because they are helping governments by paying heavy taxes.
There are more serious problems than gambling that are illegal in a state but these happen. The truth about this world is, everything can happen under the blue sky and most of government people themselves are criminals but just with a decent look.

Besides, we can’t really stop a person from doing what he has made his mind for in this era of information technology where internet provides all sort of entertainments.
In my country gambling is also prohibited and if the security departments know about a place where people gambler they raid there and seal the place. There are no casinos in my country, because gambling is illegal and nobody is allowed to gamble, but many people still gamble because they are addicted of gambling and they cannot quit gambling easily.
Gambling portrayed negatively because it is illegal in some aspects.If we heard the word gambling the thing that comes in our mind is waste of money.No more time for family bacause of addiction to gamble.For me I can't blame those perceptions that people are thinking about gambling.

What aspects you are referring to? Will you please elaborate? Don't just go away by saying "illegal in some aspects", instead let us know those aspects. There are many countries in the world where gambling is legal. What you are talking is the general conception of many in this world because they have never tried it. If you are referring to addiction, then it is not good to have addiction in anything in life. Gambling alone can't be blamed for that. Please elaborate your aspects here.
6159  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Law of Blockchain: Beyond Government Control? on: May 12, 2018, 08:40:05 AM
You have raised a very interesting topic here. The answer is no for bitcoin or for any other similar currency. I am not considering centralized currencies like smart contract tokens or Tether. If we consider currencies like bitcoin and litecoin, trying to get control over it will remain as a big joke for the government watchdogs because it is not possible technically due to the pseudo anonymous nature of blockchain. Without any central location to track, the governments will end up chasing a non existent oasis in the dessert.

However, if you maintain an account with an online wallet provider, then there is a chance of being caught if the company agrees to hand over the user's data to a particular government.

The government can even try to restrict access to the internet within their boundaries the way India tried to ban porn sites. But using tor or vpn, this restriction can be easily bypassed. So it is indeed beyond control of the governments and that's the only bottleneck we are facing towards the adoption.
In general means, they would like to completely shutdown on the things that they arent able to control which blockchain technology or on decentralized coins in the market will really be their priority and figuring it out on how manage it but same as you said this would really like finding an non-existent oasis on a big dessert. There are ways but not totally a big blockage on such increasing adoption of crypto.

Probably few governments would try to completely shut it down, but the question is, would they be able to do it? I believe no! Complete blockage can't be achieved by any means. Yes, if the government starts ruling like North Korea, that every crypto users will be facing firing squad, then probably it will be achieved through fear. But technically it is not possible. There are ways to bypass government security protocol. People will start using those if a government tries to block the crypto currency by force.
6160  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Law of Blockchain: Beyond Government Control? on: May 10, 2018, 09:22:56 PM
You have raised a very interesting topic here. The answer is no for bitcoin or for any other similar currency. I am not considering centralized currencies like smart contract tokens or Tether. If we consider currencies like bitcoin and litecoin, trying to get control over it will remain as a big joke for the government watchdogs because it is not possible technically due to the pseudo anonymous nature of blockchain. Without any central location to track, the governments will end up chasing a non existent oasis in the dessert.

However, if you maintain an account with an online wallet provider, then there is a chance of being caught if the company agrees to hand over the user's data to a particular government.

The government can even try to restrict access to the internet within their boundaries the way India tried to ban porn sites. But using tor or vpn, this restriction can be easily bypassed. So it is indeed beyond control of the governments and that's the only bottleneck we are facing towards the adoption.
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