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6141  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Hasheer on: December 19, 2016, 09:30:02 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1640901.0
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cryptodevil 13: -0 / +2	2016-10-10	0.00000000	Reference	Running obvious 'cloud mining' ponzi scam 'hasheer.com'.


Why do outside people are making accounts in this forum just asking that a ponzi site is paying, of course it pays for the very fist day so they can attract people to invest there that they have too good to be true ROI. Obviously it's a scam so stay away with that site if you love your btc.
I hope there is no the element of advertisement.  Roll Eyes
6142  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Mining without mining hardware? on: December 19, 2016, 05:04:17 AM
I don't really have any asics and any money to invest on asics. What can I do to begin profitable mining?
Forget about mine bitcoin and look about the other alternative way for mining. Look at some altcoin and you can do with suitable of your pouch.
GPU was preferring.
6143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 2016 was amaizing yeae in crypto!!! on: December 19, 2016, 04:46:09 AM
WTF is leocoin ;-)

Www.leocoin.org
Www.leocoin.info


have to admin that its pretty strange coin... not much to offer... except much talking ;]
It has called about the fucking FUD.

Zero proof but over 100% of speak.  Grin
6144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash 10$ +/- on: December 19, 2016, 04:34:42 AM
So z cash isn't gonna go back up to 1btc? That sucks hopefully down the road it will I dont have much just few bucks worth from cloud mining. Thanks for your input on the coin, I might as well sell what I have just to be safe thanks. Peace Love Crypto!!
Never, ZEC will never be recovering his price for the future. It will worth below 0.01 in my mind and keep your eyes in his supply and you will be seeing the other dropping trend will happen soon. Adoption, advertise news or other will be useless for increasing his price again.

ZEC = Short hype.
6145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins potential in a year from now (List) (25/08/2016) on: December 19, 2016, 04:25:10 AM
VultureFund, what do you think about "Zcoin" and "unitus"?
The both was a shit coin and especially about Zcoin and seems like to be the other scam coin right now. It was full with the piece of shit. Totally about zcoin.  You can read more about Zcoin in some thread this day and watch the result about them.  Roll Eyes
6146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Vslice Token Predictions on: December 19, 2016, 01:35:19 AM
Read about Vdice : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633105.0
The ICO currently ended and can collecting approx 215k ETH convert in USD 1.7Million USD (sorry if i'm wrong), one of ICO who has collecting much fund from investor, currently has added in https://liqui.io/#/exchange/VSL_BTC and the dumping has begun. If this token listed in major exchange like bittrex and poloniex, what price is worth for this token


We need more exchange for determining the future of Vslice and if the coin can signing into the major exchange and I think it will worth over 0.0004 in my mind. but totally it was a share by the vdice site.

Liqui can't give him a more hype and seems like with low intention in the buy wall.   
6147  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: December 19, 2016, 01:18:45 AM
I have found lot of investment plans and bitcoin doublers out there, but I am not so sure whether all those systems are reliable or not. So according to my own experience the most reliable and legit system to greatly grow your bitcoins is through trading, buy you need to develop your knowledge, strategy and skill to take advantage of that option.

Of course it is not reliable. If you know how to actually double an amount of money, then why don't you just double your own money? Why would you open a website and ask for people's money because you can double them? There's no way the admin of bitcoin doublers are actually doubling your money in such short time. They're still a ponzi site and they're just waiting for someone to put a huge amount of money in their website.

Same goes for hyip sites.
They are all scammers who do not have any job in the real life so they decide to steal money from dumb people on the internet. Never trust a single word they say. If they can double or triple or even multiply your capital into a thousand times, why don't they double their money by themselves instead of opening a website. This is ridiculous. And i do not know why there are still many people believe them
This so pathetic and mostly are them was a greedy person.
Winspiral is the real evidence for this  Grin
Most are newbies about that. and how they can make some of the bucks just sleep in his bedroom. they just knew about put their amount in the early time at the site was opening will back his amount with doubled.
6148  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: December 19, 2016, 12:54:11 AM
Traders also need ability to read and understand news
I guess with the capability to interpret the news in the right manner will be more than enough to make trading predictable job. Yes, Forex trading is of this kind if we are able to analyze the news and its outcome then we can make huge amounts of profits by predicting the right price movements.
Predictable means 100% correct , so how much percentage your prediction accuracy after reading and understanding all the news?
I believe it's just far below 100%! Nothing can predicted 100% correctly in trading
That's why some people consider trading as part of gambling too
It's not predictable , people just trying to make a speculation and predict the market which mostly get it wrong.

None, It seems like AUGUR weren't getting such a negative impact just caused by the bad news. All of the percentages was none, no one can actually give a clear prediction about that. All were depending with the speculation.
So what's wrong with the people's speculation?
6149  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: December 19, 2016, 12:29:59 AM
There  are no easy ways for making money but also you can try to trading site.
i think trading is much more best way to grow up your bitcoin because nowadays bitcoin increasing its price too much faster and people buying bitcoin and then holding their bitcoin for the future so i prefer that trading with bitcoin is much more profitable and safest way to increase your bitcoin.

trading the best grow your bitcoin
but you must have skill trading, prefect skill, because without skill is nothing you can increase and grow your bitcoin
you can lost all your bitcoin is without skill

without skill in high risk high return you can try investment in cloud mining, but majority ponzy, so someday scam

Trading can give you good profit in short time but you need to have skills for that.You also need experience to be succeeded.With proper skills and experience you could be succeeded in trading easily.And always trade with that amount which you can afford to lose.

Also opening a lending service and fill the loan to trusted people is also a good way to increase bitcoin.But you need to be careful on that.
Yeah trading can give to anyone a good amount of bitcoin in short time and you are right that if someone want to become a good trader they should need a good skill and knowledge about bitcoin and if you have experience in trading then you can get profit in high amount through trading without any worry.
All of that was depending on the volatility of bitcoin and there is no guarantee about will always be getting a good amount in a short time. Everyone going to become a good trader must have a good skill too. because all of them was a factor to being the good trader in the future. Like completing the clue to get the answer was revealing.
6150  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Where profitable mining with GPU or Cloud Mining? on: December 18, 2016, 04:23:43 PM
Mining using a GPU has long been dead (for BTCitcoin) and nowadays people use ASIC mining rigs instead (they have massive amounts of hashing powers in comparison to GPU's), so look for those instead.
Cloud mining on the other hand, it's a big "NO" since almost all of them turn out to be scams along the way so don't invest there.

If you don't have thousands of dollars to invest in best and efficient mining rigs out there, I would advice to just buy BTCitcoin directly instead of acquiring it through mining (which depending on what you use, might take a while to earn some).

if I am better cludmining, because we no longer think of the same electric charge pulses for internet
but also must be careful in choosing cludmining

thank you very much for the advice you gave, because it will help me decide
Which is better
The both was the fail decision. None was better.
GPU was relating into the die mining method and Cloudmining into the scam method. The contract scheme was being a failure in the cloudmining even if that was the best cloudmining.
6151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: 2016 was amaizing yeae in crypto!!! on: December 18, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
To be honest 2016 was real amaizing year!
Everything i buy end of 2015 and start in 2016 give me fantastic profit from 300% to even close to 1000%!
Hope in 2017 its will be at least same or even better!
All give me nice profit i make few 100k$ with coins, btc,eth,leocoin,maidsafecoin,xaurum and monero!
Lets see what happen in 2017!?! 👍🏼
Let me know about the valid proof.  Cheesy And I will be forgetting this about FUD.  Tongue Tongue Tongue Tongue
Let's erasing the Leo coin from your list, dude. It gives a lot of the negative impression for me.
6152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash 10$ +/- on: December 18, 2016, 01:09:01 PM
Founders start burning that 20!  Or Zcash will go down whit your GREED!


Founder Zcash eating 20% Founder fee, small guy is a Zcash miner.


Yeah and now wtf who is still stupid snd buy it snd feed them!?

Buy it like feeding the dev, and ZEC will below than the ether price and we will see it soon.  Wink The supply was over 1 million and the price will be going to 0.005  Shocked
6153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: zcash soon 0.2 btc! on: December 18, 2016, 05:06:22 AM
0.2TBC must be a joke, the price can only come down, it is just a simple law of economics demand and supply. January a can see the price at 0.02BTC range

That is a more realistic prediction in my opinion. ZEC is at 0.0585 now and still dropping, 16% drop in one day. I think nothing can save the coin, even bots buying very small fractions of the coin at 0.066. Nobody will fall for that, people are smart nowadays.


Zcah worth 10$! Maybe 15-20$! All over 20$ isover priced!
Newcoins with same stuff offering coming that are under 1$! So why yse zcash for 20$ if you can use coin for 1-2$ fir anonimum transfer! 😜👍🏼

If that is the case, you should short the coins and make over 40$ each when it does drop to $10 or even lower.

I do not think the ZCash price will go that low.

Each time it drops, even when there are pumps, it keeps going lower every time. It's already at an all time low at 43$. At 35$, I'll stop mining it, if not before, and so will other "normal" people (by that I mean home miners who have like 2-3 rigs tops). Maybe if people stop mining it, the number of newly generated coins will drop, creating a void in supply and price will rise again, but I don't think that'll happen.

If that price drops below $15, all the initial investors will lose money. I think they will pump and exit.
Pump? For what? ASAP it will be going below $15 and which mean it will die soon. Remember about a lot of FUD was saying if ZEC the next bitcoin and totally it jokes right now.

Let's see the miner grab more coin and the coin will be grabbing his lower price.  Grin
6154  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to increase BTC? on: December 18, 2016, 04:28:13 AM
There are lots of methods to increase your amount of bitcoin, selling your services or products are popular ones, forming part of a signature campaign or being a campaign manager yourself are some additional methods.
I guess OP actually reffering to growing bitcoin whilst earning by selling services,products, or joining signature campaign is gaining bitcoin. growing bitcoin is definitely make an additional bitcoin by using your bitcoin into some sort of investments. so the solution you mentioned above is basically not for growing but for gaining or making bitcoin
That is not the way I understood the question by the op  since I think he was talking about any way to grow your amount of bitcoin after all if the question was as limited in scope as you make it out to be then the only possible answers will be investing, lending and trading.

The general thing was being generated by a lot of the ways are for increasing such amount of our bitcoin. All of the ways are same. Is it generating the different result about our purpose for growth it? The easiest way just holds it and if you want to take a risk just use it. it simple rather than arguing about the indefinite thing.
6155  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: December 18, 2016, 04:06:29 AM
Oh yeah for sure its possible ive seen a few altcoins these days hit over 5000% profit.
You never really know when then next one will boost.
Totally right, It seems like around. I buy it at the ico price and in this time the price was increasing until over 30 times and omg that's so fucking real. Assuming I was investing in there over 5 BTC and I will get over 100 BTC just in a short time. But too difficult for searching about the project was being potentially like this one.
6156  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best trading places on: December 18, 2016, 03:58:52 AM
i think that BITSANE exchange is trusted and secure exchange for trading and there is maximum exchange for trading but i feel safe and secure when i trade in BITSANE exchange because there is a lot of people are using BITSANE exchange nowadays and it getting too much popularity than other exchange.
Any proof? and I weren't seeing it in the http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/
But where is it going? Totally I just wanna prove it. So totally we were speaking about the fact, but nice promotion, dude.
6157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [CLOSED] Incent: Signature Campaign | Translation Bounty | SM Bounty on TVE on: December 17, 2016, 09:48:41 AM
The Viral Exchange just activated withdrawals of Incent tokens. Go grab your Social Media bounty! (no payouts to exchanges or you will lose your funds!)

Where I put my address?I just download waves lite client.Shall I put my wave address into TVE in order to withdraw the incent?
Yes, withdraw the tokens from TVE and you'll be asked for your Waves address.
When the incent platform will get launching? I have heard someone said about Q1 of 2017. True ?
6158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My 2017 predictions on: December 17, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Thanks for sharing! I wish I had enough to have that diverse a portfolio but since I only earn coins and not buy them, my holdings are really only what people pay to me so I have BTC, Doge, ltc and ETH.

Comments:

1. BTC not an alt, but I would put 30% as a safe hedge since you're putting quite a bit on risky alts.

2. China pump will affect several coins, and I would step lightly around newer ones and follow the trend of 1st Q pumps for the older alts: LTC, Doge, ETH.


Yeah, Bitcoin will be gaining a lot of part in our investment, but what about ltc today? Will SegWit affect that price? Seem to be an exciting thing for a watch.  Grin I just put a little for LTC and Doge coin.
ICN and Bitcoin still be the priority.
6159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: December 17, 2016, 08:57:48 AM
I think too many people was screaming and shouting about zcash and that made it too hyped and led to the big disaster it is now. I will buy some eventually but not before I see it flatline for a few months first.
It will need over a year to get recover about its price. Supply was telling a lot about the future of zcash.It will stay at the low level for some years later. A lot of the big miner was dumping it until the next year in my speculation.
6160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: December 17, 2016, 03:21:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCRna2B9DHw

Vitalik is the next satoshi nakamoto 2.0!!!!!!!!!
 Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin
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