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6181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: MOTOGP Tournament - Betting? on: June 11, 2021, 03:00:48 PM
then why not a casino that allows us to bet on racing matches?
Not many casinos have a bet on the MotoGP, but I did a little search and I found this website

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Most of the current sports betting platforms are football, some have a few other types of sports, however, I have not seen any casinos that allow betting on MotoGP racing. Why can't it become popular, even though the races are so attractive that few people want to miss it.
Maybe MotoGP does not have a big fan so we do not have many casino lists that sports.

For racing, people often watch rather than bet, why?
I think that will depend on each person's reasons. One of the reasons can be not many casinos give that bet on their site.

Do you guys think there is any reason or limitation for this?
What limitation? I think if MotoGP can become famous, maybe the casino will consider adding in their lists.
6182  Economy / Speculation / Re: I cannot stop buying on: June 11, 2021, 01:53:15 PM
It is good if you still buy bitcoin, especially if you can buy at a low price. But you should remember that bitcoin can drop anytime, so I suggest you hold some money to buy bitcoin later at the lowest price. I am afraid that if you continue buying bitcoin at the current price, you will not have an opportunity to buy it at a drops price. So you need to hold yourself to buy and it is better to spread your order buy at many lowest prices. But do not forget to sell some bitcoin once the price starts increasing so you can get your money back.
6183  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 11, 2021, 12:48:47 PM
This is justifiable for casinos who have license or trusted since sometimes we really need to do it for our own safety since casinos sometimes conduct a verification process, I myself doesn't like that option but since online gambling is growing and casino are been regulated maybe lets follow what they ask since I think its betterment of all. So for this its really important to choose the best casino to avoid the huge risk on providing our personal details.
But still, I do not like to conduct a verification process and I am sure some casinos will not use the verification process because they respect the member's identity. So if we can find the casino that needs verification, that will be good because we can play gambling as anonymous.

I agree, we as gamblers should exchange our bad experience, to warn others. Over the last 2 years a lot of new casinos entered the online market. Having honest reviews is important to divide the good from the bad casinos. The first red flag for me is if the first time deposit bonuses sound too good to be true. Getting free money to try out a new casino is definitely fine, as long as it legit. That is probably why I only gamble with larger sums on casinos who have been around for years. Having a long and good track record is important.
We hope that other people who want to start gambling can know whatwhat they should do and prevent the worst situations. They will lack information about the site and needed guidance from other people to inform them about the gambling site. I prefer to get free money to test the site because we do not have to deposit some money to know if that site is legit.

That's why it is important to have a research first about a certain casino that you wanted to deposit your money to be able to play on their site, to avoid being surprise with their sudden KYC verification upon withdrawing your winnings, especially if it is a new gambling site platform. Depositing on well reputed gambling site will give you much convenience because KYC verification is much other compare to other gambling site.
If they can read the review from this forum, they will know which gambling site they can play and stay away from the site. I am sure they will know the experience from the other members and use that for their good. If they do not have a problem with verification for the KYC, they can join the gambling site, which is needed KYC. But they should remember that there are no 100% safe on the internet once they give their identity.

6184  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where to seek help if you need; concerned with gambling addiction. on: June 11, 2021, 11:45:48 AM
I think the first step to overcoming gambling addiction is to ask for help from the family, if it is still not resolved, then we can ask for help from
a rehab center. But the problem is that not all countries have rehab centers for people who are addicted to gambling, most rehab is available
for drug addicts. But basically how to overcome gambling and drug addiction in my opinion is not much different. So it is very possible to cure
gambling addiction in rehab for drugs. But we can also ask a psychiatrist for help. My friend once recovered from gambling addiction by asking
a psychiatrist for help.
If his country does not have a rehab center, visiting a psychiatrist will be the solution to solve his addiction to gambling. But his family will be the first help that he should ask to search for a fast solution before he visits the psychiatrist. It is really hard to cure the addicts because that needs an effort from him to solve it. Maybe curing gambling addiction is not hard as drug addiction, but it is still hard to do if the victim does not want to change his habit.

A rehab center for gambling addicts? I haven't even heard of such things. If you ask me, I don't think it would work. Gathering all gambling addicts under one roof isn't a good idea IMO. It's better for the addicts to stay home and take prescribed medications while being supported by their families. That's when the support from family members counts big time btw.
Maybe in the other country, the name of that rehabilitation will be different. Still, I think the country will have rehabilitation for the addicts and use different methods to cure the addicted person. Of course, prescribed medications will be necessary and needed. Still, if the addicted person can talk heart by heart to other people, especially to the psychiatrist, that would help them figure out why they become addicted. It needs an open mind from the addicted person to know how they can live like other people without becoming addicted to gambling.
6185  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling tax proposal in Ukraine on: June 11, 2021, 10:30:26 AM
I guess it's just a small amount for the gambling casinos because there are a lot of people today who makes gambling with a huge amount but again there are some management who don't want to pay a lot even though it a 10 percent imagine how much you earn and then the 10 per cent of the total earning will go to the government, still its a regulation on their country if they want to make gambling casino. The whole goal is to have an authority to run a gambling casino also its just a small amount to them if they will pay those for having a tax. Base on my country they are having a 10-20 percent of tax.
If the amount is small, the casino will not think much. I think the casino can pay the taxes because their profit will be bigger than the amount they should pay. I am sure the casino will follow the regulation from their country because as long as they can obey the rule, their business will be safe and no one can disturb them to make a profit. People can hope that it can help the country to grow, especially in this pandemic.
6186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: YOUR FAVORITE GAMBLING? on: June 11, 2021, 09:07:41 AM
Slots machine is the funniest kind of gambling game. The graphics and animations entertain a lot and it always looks like a surprise will happen anytime. If you get tired of a game, no problem, because there are hundreds of another games which will please you with their unique styles. It's perfect for who wants to relax their mind and body for few hours with the chance of hitting some nice rewards.
Yep, slots machine is one of the easiest gambling game that we can play because we do not have to have skills to play. Many people like to play slots and spend much time playing that game from time to time. But what I am worried about is that game can attract children to play because of the graphics and animations from the games. If they found that the game can entertain them, I think they will try to play for some time without we know. That can also happen to the adult person.
6187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prayer and gambling. on: June 11, 2021, 07:54:38 AM
Damn, I laughed out loud when I read the title of this post  Grin Grin Oh god, does my god exist in gambling  Grin Grin No god can save your life when you are a gambler  Grin Grin
As @mu_enrico said, that is a Dice God that will help us to win, so we should pray to our Dice God Grin Grin

Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.
It means that those people do not respect the very religion they are following. Everyone has their own beliefs and religions, but once one believes in a religion, I think everyone should follow dogma, it seems bad to defy dogma to gamble. Very bad! They're following a religion they don't even respect  Undecided
Mmm, I think they respect their religion, but they are playing gambling in one circumstance, and I think that is because of the "make money."

But I still believe that many of them still believe that they do not have to make money from gambling because they can search for another way to make money. They will stay away from playing gambling because that is prohibited in their religion.
6188  Other / Off-topic / Re: Slapping Tournament on: June 11, 2021, 06:15:13 AM
I am sure that is indeed really hurtful for them. But as long as they can enjoy the tournament, they will not feel too hurt as they can have a chance to win. But maybe for us, that will not be worth doing because we can not imagine getting those slaps. I see that they really have good control with their emotion because if someone gets a slap in their face, the first thing that they will do is getting mad and give a punch to them Grin
That's really hurtful. I think that even if they're enjoying being slapped or to slap someone when it's their turn to be slapped, there's still the pain that they'll feel. But no matter what, they've chosen to choose it and that's already part of their life until they decide to get out of it and stop being a participant in that tournament. They must be doing something to strengthen their jaws just like athletes getting trained for them to have a stronger jaw that can stand and last to tolerate the pain that will be taken from their opponent when they're being slapped.
Once they choose to be the player of that tournament, they know the risk and accept the risk. That is why the tournament might still continue, but if the sport wants to grow more than now, they really need to work hard in promoting in many places. That can help them get more attention from people from other place and if they think that the sport is interesting to them, they will follow it and watch it. I can not imagine what they did to make their jaw stronger than other people because that will be hard training for a long time.
6189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prayer and gambling. on: June 10, 2021, 06:01:39 PM
Which God? Dice God? Grin
Hahaha, it could be Grin

Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.
Yep, but I think some religious people will play gambling, even if they know that gambling is prohibited in their religion.

surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck...

I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.
Maybe that will look strange for us but that is really happened in common in many places. They only think that by praying, they can win some money. But some people will not pray before playing gambling because they think that is not necessary. Besides that, gambling is only for fun and not for making money.
6190  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Economic Costs of Gambling on: June 10, 2021, 04:55:00 PM
Actually its none of casinos business for them to mind about their players because no one had forced them to play on particular place to play gambling.Therefore,
if they do make out themselves on being addicted due to excessive playing then its actually a personal problem for a certain gambler to resolved on and its no surprise
that casinos wont be minding about those wrecked players because they are the ones who do make out their fate. Playing too much is bad and we know casino is a business and its just normal for them to accept players as much as they can and that what matter most and the rest is never been their responsibility to catch on.
A gambler will play base on their choice and they will pick the casino that can make them comfortable playing gambling. The casino does not like when someone is disturbing in their place and they made a riot in their place. The casino can easily kick them out because that person is not given the casino profit like other gamblers. If the gambler becomes addicted, the casino will let them and not carry them to the rehab centre.

Not only the casinos but the government as well, they are the ones giving license and regulate the casinos and some of them are also operating a lottery and gambling casinos, both of them do not think the welfare of gamblers and instead just focus on how to make revenues, they are good partners victimizing people who have no control in gambling, they both share the blame. 
Maybe the government needs to think about the effect of playing gambling on their people so they can warn them not to playing gambling too often. But that will look vague because the government gives license to the casino on one side, and on the other side, they will face many addicted people because of playing gambling. Maybe the people need to think about that seriously not to spend their time only playing gambling. They can play gambling in their free time but not use too big money.
6191  Other / Off-topic / Re: Slapping Tournament on: June 10, 2021, 04:11:51 PM
It used to be very viral on Facebook, I even like one page about this tournament it's good for entertainment but not for sporting events, participants do not have defense, it's not about slapping it's how strong your cheek and how you can take those slaps, I like the compilation of slapping knockout, it's been harder than a boxing punch because on boxing they have a globe to protect and this slapping can cause damage to your brain, this kind of sport is insane.
True, I can remember well how they endured the pain and shock after the hard slap that knocked them down. This is the craziest sport I've seen so far on Facebook. Somehow people were eager to see and cheer after one of the opponent KO because of the strong slap. Obviously this is entertainment and it's much more stressful than arm wrestling.

More stressful indeed, imagine how hard that slap that will triggered the pain!

But there are people who are enjoying with this kind of tournament, seems that people who watch it online
have different opinions some may enjoy seeing the endurance of two players accepting hard slaps and try to keep standing.

Social media hypes and until to date they are bringing this sports being notice around.
I am sure that is indeed really hurtful for them. But as long as they can enjoy the tournament, they will not feel too hurt as they can have a chance to win. But maybe for us, that will not be worth doing because we can not imagine getting those slaps. I see that they really have good control with their emotion because if someone gets a slap in their face, the first thing that they will do is getting mad and give a punch to them Grin
6192  Other / Off-topic / Re: Slapping Tournament on: June 09, 2021, 04:51:53 PM
~snip~

Yes, it's not boxing and it can hardly be called a sport, but because it's people have different views on entertainment and judging by how many viewers gather such competitions, it is clear that many people like it. New entertainment always attracts people's eyes, but I think that interest will fade over time.
Maybe we will not call that a sport, but people in that country will consider that a sport and they really like to watch that game. That will be different if that sport becomes popular in many countries and people will say that it is one of the sports.

It might be the same as if our people are doing a sport or playing some local game in our country, and we call that a sport. But in other people views, that is not a sport.
6193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Economic Costs of Gambling on: June 09, 2021, 03:55:46 PM
Gambling operators would never care for the implications of them just existing and profiting. What's important to them is money, and at the end of the day, they will get it from people that are lowkey having fun and those who are extremely addicted. As long as the industry is thriving, pays their taxes, and does not really do harm that is easily recognizable, the government will allow it—except of course on countries with a firm stance against gambling.
Exactly, they will care much more about profits than the wellbeing of their users because what's the point of curing your customers if them being sick is the way that you can make a lot of money. Also, regarding the economic cost, I think gamblong industry is a big contributor with taxes and tourism, just look at Las Vegas, Macau and Hongkong.
Yes, both of you are right as long as the casino can attract many gamblers and they can get more money from them. The casino will not care about the addicted gamblers, how they can solve the addiction, and how the gambler can avoid committing a crime. A gambling industry contributes a big income for the government in the country that allows gambling. The casino does not think much about the side effect of the player in the gambling games because they think that is the gambler's responsibility.
6194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prayer and gambling. on: June 09, 2021, 02:04:26 PM
Exactly.

Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.
Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us. We can not complain about the result if we are losing the money after we pray and because maybe that is the best thing that we should have. If we win, but we will get something worst, that will be good for us. So GOD makes us lose the money and not allow us to win. But on the other days, we can win the games.
6195  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: YOUR FAVORITE GAMBLING? on: June 09, 2021, 01:09:00 PM
My favorite gambling is playing simple dice games and roulette. Dice is fast that's why i love it and roulette for me is a lot of fun always. Specially playing live roulette is a lot of fun , i just play it with small amounts just for having fun

I am exactly the same, online I prefer dice and offline on casinos I prefer roulette. You don't need to concentrate too much on these games and get decent odds for making some money. I also like to play poker online but here you really need to concentrate. If you don't bring your best game to the table others will just take advantage of you.
That is because playing dice online or offline does not need any skills and people can easily play dice games. We can only place a bet and click the roll button, and the result will come up. If we can predict with the right, maybe we will have a chance to win but that will not easy as the other opponent will do the same. Poker and dice games have its fan, and they really like to play that games.
6196  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling tax proposal in Ukraine on: June 09, 2021, 12:07:03 PM
Tax money is the source for the government and when they meet with unexpected needs like the pandemic, what they do is add up tax. The proposal by Ukraine in my view is acceptable, because they're not into taxation of the essential things. In certain countries taxes were increased on the essential things. Already People are suffering financially, the taxes once again adds pain.

Particularly on the fuel price which leads to the hike in the price of each and everything.
But if the government just raises the taxes without discussing with the other element, I am afraid to demonstrate from the business owner because, in this pandemic, they feel it is hard to make a profit. Maybe tax really help the country to survive in this pandemic, but the government needs to analyze to find which business or industry still survives. But they can not generalize one business for all business owners because that will depend on how big their company is. That will be the same if they want to use the regulation to the gambling industry because, as we know, that gambling business will depend on how much the owner uses their money to reopen their business again.
6197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where to seek help if you need; concerned with gambling addiction. on: June 09, 2021, 11:02:33 AM
Any intervention or rehab center that rehabilitates addiction is a good start because they cater a wide variety of addictions. Also, try to talk to the person first before anything else  because getting them by surprise is going to be a stupid thing to do because it will be against their will and they might resent you for the intervention.
That will depend on where that person lives because not all countries have that rehab centre, especially for addicts to gambling, but maybe the government will have a drug rehab centre. If the addicted person to gambling can not find that rehab centre, they need to figure out how to solve the addicting problem. Before they search for that place, it is better to tell other people and share what they feel, and who knows, that he knows some places that can help that person.
6198  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is playing on Pnxbet.com right now? on: June 09, 2021, 10:03:05 AM
Hello, I discover Pnxbet.com recently by watching many E-sports streamer promoting it in my country(Philippines). The problem was i already deposit and play there for more than a weeks then I discover that they scam accusation here. They are hot on the Philippines since most of the famous streamer is promoting it. Is anyone here already experience bad against them?
It is the first time I heard about the site. What happens after you deposit? Did you lose the money or you still have that money?

You can try by yourself to know if that site is a scam or not because you say that the site is hot in the Philippines, so I think you can find some people who can win or lose from that site. Maybe you can get lucky by winning some games at that site and you can withdraw the money without a problem.
6199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you limit your gambling time? on: June 09, 2021, 09:01:19 AM
People need to stick to game strategies and plan their finances... Otherwise greed and trying to get their money back will play against them! If you have a bad gambling day and lose your allotted amount to play, you should stop... Think about other things and come back later...

It's true, a strategy is necessary in any thing related to finances... Whether it's playing gambling, trading the exchange, or paying off a loan...
When try stuck with loss all time better to stop and never join gambling any time, I think this why push your soul and you can't control how to manage with gambling moment, always make you to make higher wager after loss and all your fund loss when faced with gambling, I stop gambling and back to trading.
I try to trade in these few days, but it does not give me a good profit except to lose little money. Still, that bothers me to keep trying to trade, but then I realize it seems I need to stop for a while because I can not analyze better and see that my tension becomes higher. After that, I decided to stop until now. Maybe later, if I can reduce my pressure, I will start trading again.

That will be the same in gambling. If you have a similar experience as me, maybe you need to break for a while and never think about recovering your loss because that will not be easy for you. That is called calming yourself down and knowing yourself so you can come back in the other days.
6200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 09, 2021, 08:10:39 AM
That's the main issue I always had with casinos. They let you deposit no problem, no questions asked. But out of a sudden they start their delaying tactics when it comes to pay outs, hoping you start gambling again and lose it all before you even had a fair chance to pass the KYC.

The sheer number of casinos is so crazy in the online sphere, but there is one and the same company behind many of them. It is a gigantic cluster of companies that are related with each other in one way or another.
If that happens often, maybe that will be the time for us to search for the other casino because I am sure that the other casino will not do the same. I think many of us have the same experience as you. That is why we need to be carefully selecting the casino and if somehow we got that problem, we do not need to use them anymore. That kind of casino will not grow bigger because they make their members problem and do not want to fix it. Besides that, we can easily find the other casino that can treat us better.
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