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June 09, 2021, 10:42:00 AM |
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gambling is also forbidden in my religion. So, what's for praying for something forbidden? I don't think this will work moreover to something that is exactly forbidden. But, I don't know if in the other beliefs. This is just a personal opinion.
If gambling is forbidden in your religion you probably cannot look towards heaven for luck ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) because they already warned you against it. Jokes apart, I don't think praying works for anyone and if one feels it does, they are just fooling themselves. Imagine two different people praying for their bets and they have different players so who is gonna win? The one whose prayers are stronger? Doesn't make sense. Each of us has their own gambling belief and practices. It may sound absurd when you say you pray before you gamble, I don't see anything wrong with it if it is what you believe when gambling. If a gambler thibks praying when betting can bring luck,then so be it. Betting practices and beliefs varies from people to people and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it doesn't oppose your religious belief.
There is nothing wrong with eating pizza before gambling either but you should not satisfy yourself by telling that God is on my side today just because I have done a particular action. It brings overconfidence and later remorse.
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June 09, 2021, 10:55:13 AM |
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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling. And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.
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June 09, 2021, 11:26:28 AM |
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Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it.
Coincidence and luck. That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you.
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June 09, 2021, 11:58:14 AM |
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That's why I believe that it is just a personal belief and habit before doing gambling. And whether he is lucky or not, some strategies and right decision at that time when gambling also will really influence the loss or win.
Agreed, not everyone has to be doing it, it's a matter of preference and perspective, if you think it can help you then probably do it. But to be on a rational side of things, just because you pray doesn't mean that you can win and even if you win, it's just a coincidence, be responsible for your actions and don't pray for it. Exactly. Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.
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June 09, 2021, 12:11:24 PM |
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Coincidence and luck. That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you. Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed.
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June 09, 2021, 02:02:02 PM |
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I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.
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June 09, 2021, 02:04:26 PM |
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Exactly.
Not because you pray for something means you'll receive it or have it accurately. Sometimes the answers on our prayer is different, or maybe delayed, because God knows what's better for us. If you lose, even you prayed to win, maybe it was a sign that God gave to you, to realize something, to never play gambling again, it's up to you whether you'll accept the sign or ignore it and continue playing gambling.
Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us. We can not complain about the result if we are losing the money after we pray and because maybe that is the best thing that we should have. If we win, but we will get something worst, that will be good for us. So GOD makes us lose the money and not allow us to win. But on the other days, we can win the games.
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June 09, 2021, 02:14:06 PM |
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you were just at the right place when the chips landed.
It's called luck ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Indeed. Sometimes, the answer will need to wait for a while because GOD has another plan for us.
Which God? Dice God? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
Regarding prayer, I don't think it's necessary since AFAIK most religion forbid gambling. But religious people often pray for a lucky day and prosperity, though. So the prayers may count if they are winning.
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June 09, 2021, 08:12:03 PM |
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Coincidence and luck. That's mostly the matter in gambling if you've been praying for your wins. You'll never know if your prayer has been answered or it's just a coincidence that luck is totally with you. Don't rely too much on luck because there's no such thing as luck, it's just a fancy word for statistics and probability. There is no luck, you were just at the right place when the chips landed. No such thing? Well, there is. If you've been playing all of those luck based games. There is stats and probabilities on those games but it's on the side of the operator. But being as a player, there's a thing that we call luck.
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I don't encourage or discourage it, but I don't judge people who do this, it's their way of life, if their religion tells them to pray every hour or whatever they do, we should let them, praying is a religious act, and we have to let other practice their religion, it will not harm you seeing other people pray while betting.
It won't harm you as they are the one who's performing it, those people who are still believing in this practice the see something that we don't, let them enjoy and bank it. Who knows if that's working or not, as long as they are believing that the prayer that they are doing will help them to win, we do have our own ways in believing to find our luck! Luck is all we need and we know that this is something that cant really be attained through something even if we do tend to pray hard for us to win. Luck doesnt come if we wanted to but rather it do goes in random ways and this is why no matter how hard you do pray it wouldnt really matter at all.It is just a belief on where people do make it as a habit believing that they could be lucky once they do pray on but honestly luck chances cant neither be affected on things of this world. Probabilities or possibilities will always matter and that should people to think of.
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June 10, 2021, 11:41:45 AM |
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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win? praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray
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June 10, 2021, 12:36:28 PM |
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I'm not a devout religious believer, it's just that I also don't believe that God will bless those who play gambling If God has to bless all gamblers, then how much must he make to win? praying when buying the lottery, placing bets or playing slots is ridiculous to me I would never want to do that, even I won the lottery several times when I didn't pray ^ That is the fact in here if you believe in God and read the Bible. It was clearly said there God has hated gambling activities. You can read these verses of the Bible why God hates gambling, (Hebrews 13:5, and Exodus 20:17) it has a parable that gambling shows a lack of contentment and in (Proverbs 29:7; Psalm 41:1) can exploit poor people with the hope of get-quick rich scheme. So if you don't believe in these, don't pray while you are gambling, just gamble and hope there is luck. There is nothing that will happen even if your whole family member will pray for you and hope that you will win. Imagine, in the lottery, for one person to win, other people must lose.
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June 10, 2021, 01:01:50 PM |
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We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.
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June 10, 2021, 01:27:09 PM |
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We ask for luck but it doesn't mean that we include god and pray for the win. Because god couldn't help us and he never hears our prayer for that thing. If we got lucky and win, then we might be thankful but if ever we lose, we don't have to blame anyone especially our god because nobody asks you to do that nor he was but it was your willingness.
Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling.
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June 10, 2021, 02:04:42 PM |
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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio. If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them.
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June 10, 2021, 02:44:51 PM |
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If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio. If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
God may not interfere and let the game do it's on course, not all prayers are heard, it's just a way for gamblers to make themselves believe that the bet is in favor of them, some gamblers do have this habit and they accept the results win or lose, we should let other gamblers do their ritual if that what they think will favor them. Agree to that, those rituals are for people who believes in it, there are gamblers who continue to believe that if they continue praying there might be an impact to their gambling habits. When they win the mindsets gives them the believes that it was an answer prayer for them, though I'm not believing in such kind but I respect those people. Let them do whatever they've think that will help their chance to win.
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June 10, 2021, 03:32:35 PM |
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Instead, we have to be confident on our bet, and that is by improving our skills in gambling, without that, we are only good if we are lucky, but most of the time we will just lose since we don't have the skills to give us consistency in gambling. surely those who pray when gambling is trying to ask for luck... I agree with you that gambling not only requires luck, skill is also very much needed so that we don't just give up our money for free just by luck. but until now I am still amazed by those who pray when gambling, strange to me.
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Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.
Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? Did it work?
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio. If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
Lol no. Praying doesn't change your odds of winning a bet. And no, "spiritual beings" does not get involved or influence your gambling outcome. I guess the people you saw that were "praying" were not actually praying? They were just "hoping" and "wishing" that the next bet is a win. Like you know, how you mutter to yourself "please be a winning bet, please please". Something like this. If praying would change your bet outcome, casinos would go bankrupt.
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June 10, 2021, 04:24:42 PM |
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Often times in my country, i have visited a sports betting shop to place my bet, and each time before I am about to do so, i always look out to the other service booths where bettings are received for other other individuals placing their bets as well.
Each time, i notice that out of the five service booths in this sports betting shop, it is common to see two or sometimes three individuals out of the five occupying the service booths always bow their head and mutter some words solemnly, a prayer i suppose.
Big questions - Do spiritual beings get involved or influence gambling results in the favour of those who pray to them?
Have you ever prayed before placing a bet (gambling)? Did it work?
If you believe it does work, examine this scenerio. If we both worship and serve same god, and we place our bets on the same games, in a manner that our bets are opposites, and we both say a solemn prayer to this our god before casting our bets, Who will this god favour?
You might as well chuck a coin in a "lucky" water fountain or throw some salt over your shoulder, as making a prayer is a predictable yet meaningless waste of time. It is reserved for people who do not want to appreciate the simple mathematical odds that are inherent in almost every bet accepted by another party. Bookmakers for example were not made into huge companies by paying out a lot of winning bets, they make large profits because they analyse odds and statistics which over time will give them a useful picture of outcomes. The irony with praying is greed being heavily frowned upon in religious texts yet these people are usually looking for self enrichment above all others. It never worked, it is just a coincidence if you happen to select the correct outcome which will be formed by a certain chain of events.
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We have some spiritual or religious connection with God we beleive in although they all are one and we do have a beleif that we all pray before doing anything so as it goes in our favor and gambling is mostly luck based so prayers are more often done in these uncertain moments.I have also prayed in my mind that god please the number on the roulette is same on which I have placed bet.So for me yes I do before gambling.The other fact is that once we win our belief increases over more and we make it our gambling routine.
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