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621  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 14, 2014, 05:58:08 PM
Keep an eye on it in the next 2 months  Grin

 We'll be up by end of june!

 Hopefully most of the features will be active mid july!


 Thanks.

 - Calvin

 Thanks, can't wait for release. Will mobile be up at time of release?

 Also I donated a bit to 3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL

 Mobile will be up when it's approved by apple and google to be on their stores as this is a wallet.
622  Bitcoin / Wallet software / project sold on: June 13, 2014, 08:29:08 PM
Project has been sold,
623  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: First Open-Source Multisignature Bitcoin Wallet Pre-Announced Today on: June 13, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
Full post is now avaliable, about the team and website will be up soon! Stay tuned for that.


 Github also coming soon.
624  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 13, 2014, 08:12:42 PM
Keep an eye on it in the next 2 months  Grin

 We'll be up by end of june!

 Hopefully most of the features will be active mid july!


 Thanks.

 - Calvin
625  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Satoshi only spent 50 BTC. Here's where those coins are now on: June 13, 2014, 05:57:14 AM
 I don't understand why people claim he has 1,000,000 bitcoins. There is no feasable proof he owns more than 500 he mined at the beginning. I've looked for hours before in hope to find something that contains proof of his mining of the coins. There really is nothing.

 I believe the 1,000,000 coins is a myth.
626  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: First Open-Source Multisignature Bitcoin Wallet Pre-Announced Today on: June 13, 2014, 03:59:49 AM
 Thanks for the proper introduction.
627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It's already 48%, No one care about Ghash? on: June 13, 2014, 03:23:05 AM
BINGO!

Welcome to the centralized payment network "Bitcoin", owned and operated by GHash Inc.




 Do people not realize 51 is an expression and all you theoretically need is 50.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%?

 They already have attack capable status.
628  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 13, 2014, 01:25:27 AM
Very nice video! I'll definitely keep an eye on this as the suspected completion date comes closer and closer. Good luck!

 I'm also very excited for this release.

 Thanks guys, we really appreciate he support we've received in result of our project. We hope for this to be a long term sustainable service with some of the most advanced features to date.
629  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 12, 2014, 11:33:33 PM
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User controlled keys:
 Every wallet on FrozenBit is user generated. Meaning made in browser, without help from us. The only thing that is actually on the server when it comes time to spend funds is the encrypted public key. We learned from armory, and the community people don't like third parties, we'll we don't even like parties so we decided just not to attend that one and let you control your keys.
 
 -This action can be verified over github on our open-source offline package. Meaning you can even generate your own coldstorages.

So does this mean that the users will HOLD ALL the 3 keys(considering a 2-3 multisig)?

 Yes, it does! It's just one of our commitments to sticking to bitcoins roots.
630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 12, 2014, 10:49:49 PM
Official thread was just released: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=650203.0
631  Bitcoin / Project Development / [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 12, 2014, 10:42:41 PM
http://frozenbit.io   -  TESTING SITE IS NOW UP; NO FEATURES YET

We're are fully Community supported:


Thanks, can't wait for release. Will mobile be up at time of release?

 Also I donated a bit to 3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL

This looks promising it will make multi-sig wallets easier to use as they still are very technical and give alot of people head aches
+1 for you.  :)

cant wait for it to get released

Keep an eye on it in the next 2 months  ;D

thank you for hearing our suggestions.

eagerly awaiting your release...

Can't wait for Pete to review frozenbit! Let me ping him!



Feel like supporting the team? You can contribute at 3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL, thank you.



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First you should see what we're all about at: http://frozenbit.io


  Bitcoin's biggest problem has been how can someone fully secure their (BTC)bitcoin's? While there are decent solutions, there hasn't been a way to do this trustlessly. I'm proud to present our solution to this problem. FrozenBit, the first multisignature bitcoin wallet with a trustless approach.
 




What is FrozenBit?

 FrozenBit is a project that's goal has been to equally allow all users from all experiences to dive right into bitcoin. This means we rid the technical's in an attempt to attract the masses who wish to try bitcoin. Like a study we've recently done where we sat a few people down and had them attempt to dive into multisignature bitcoin addresses by themselves, using only online help (Not us). They were unable to find a useful non-technical guide that worked with any kind of key they had. When they asked for help here on bitcoin talk, they we're ridiculed for being "unable to use search function" those technicals where just unapplealing for your everyday person. So this fits into our core goal, make multisig what is should be. Simple, Secure and Accessible. Thus allowing bitcoin to expand from a technically efficent niche, to a more consumer accessible niche with "bank-like" features. But don't worry technocrats, we still have features on the way that we feel you'll enjoy.

 That's what FrozenBit is.







Why FrozenBit:

 Besides our unmatched security through second factor authentication (2fa) and transparency provided by being open source frozenbit has many benefits.
The first of which is being multisignature, providing 2-of-3 sense of security. You can sleep well at night knowing no one, not even us can take your bitcoins.
Continuing on, in order to prevent a gox. like situation we place you solely responsible for your keys. We've also taken the liberty of adding 24/7 monitoring for the service, alerting you to any transactions. Making the service trustless and secure as a coldstorage while being as convient as a hot wallet.








Key Features:
    • Multisignature wallets
    • 2FA
    • User controlled keys
    • The only MULTIPLATFORM bitcoin wallet
    • Trezor Key generation
    • Killer API
    • Referral Program
    • Real World Escrow Situations (Dev)
    • Watch Only (Dev)





    Multisignature Wallets:
       Multisignature wallets are in essence the technology all financial institutions use today to secure client funds. Since bitcoin is a way to avoid banks, this is the perfect way to feel as secure as you would in a bank with bitcoin. Multisignature is an underlying protocol in bitcoin that allows 3 randomly connected people to form a trustless storage for their coins. Using encrypted keys called public keys, users enter 3 of these (or more) into bitcoin qt or some generator site like coinb.in.
     
     This forms an address that starts with a 3, that no one person can send funds from. Instead this one person can initiate a transaction to give to other people who's keys are used to sign the wallet to spend. Depending on the setup, such as 2 of 3 that's how many users are required to sign then broadcast the transaction into the bitcoin network. Not only does this have trustless applications, this also allows multiple devices to generate a more secure coldstorage address with no single point of failure.






    2FA:

      Like I previously noted we take our security seriously and accomplished this by incorporating features the community would ask for in a wallet. We refuse to compromise, and we refuse to hear about the next theft so we've mandated this key piece of preventative security. You're required to enter a SMS pin whenever you login, and attempt a withdrawal.





    User controlled keys:
      Every wallet on FrozenBit is user generated. Meaning made in browser, without help from us. The only thing that is actually on the server when it comes time to spend funds is the encrypted public key. We learned from armory, and the community people don't like third parties, we'll we don't even like parties so we decided just not to attend that one and let you control your keys.
     
     -This action can be verified over github on our open-source offline package. Meaning you can even generate your own coldstorages.





    Multiplatform Bitcoin Wallet:
     We have 2 apps pending approval on mobile devices both apple, and android in which they allow users to completely control their funds even on the go. Stay tuned for the official approval announcement. Lets also not forget our powerful desktop application that will be completely offline that will allow users 100% easier access to bitcoin multisignature technology. This will be more geared towards our advanced users.





    Referral Program:
      The referral program acts like any other referral program does. When you invite a user onto site and they secure their bitcoins, the site pays you 0.05% of their deposited amount in bitcoin directly to your wallet. There is no minimum and very little referral verification time. We feel this is the best way to adept users into multisignature and entice you to advertise us to your friends and others you know who use bitcoin. We feel this is needed for people to want to spread Multisignature technology around to every user possible. Also, we have tools that allow you to track and verify how much you should be receiving in result of your referral actions.






    In Developement:
     I would like to state right now that the site is constantly being innovated upon and is constantly being update with new features. Nothing is set in stone and we are not finished with design and user interface.

    We have a plethora of features we want to roll out very soon.

     This Includes

    HD Wallets: Allowing many addresses in 1 wallet instead of 1 address, per 1 wallet.

    Also

    RWES: (REAL WORLD ESCROW SITUATIONS) We are considering this something that will make FrozenBit entirely different from your ordinary run of the mill bitcoin wallet. Yeah we're multisig, but how can we expand bitcoin trust? How can we make a trustless system between random people?
    RWES is here to solve that. By allowing 3 emails to be entered at registration and each email receiving a log-in that generates their key (1 of 3) that allows the initiation or signature for a transaction (2 of 3) from their joint address. This means people can finally hold money together without fear one signee will go rogue, because they no longer have the means to do it. This program acts as the first attempt at a fee-less escrow where the technicals are fully removed from the process. We are 100% uninvolved and this rely's 100% on the bitcoins protocol to work.

    And

    Watch Only: Details coming soon.



    STAY TUNED FOR OFFICIAL RELEASE DATE OF FROZENBIT; - TARGET MID JULY. -






     Also Reference a recent interview our CEO, Calvin Partaken with bitcoinegghead's Chris Emberely.

    "Considering Calvin, frozenbits CEO was someone who is on the front-line of bitcoin innovation I wanted to get his input on things surrounding this mysterious new feature people are just now talking about. I asked him to go on the record talking about his service, multisig in general and what he difference really is. He agreed.

     CHRIS- "So Calvin thanks for agreeing for the interview, I'm quite inspired by a few of the related emails you sent me and thanks for the time explaining the concept of multisig."
    CALVIN- "We'll thanks for having me do the interview, It's been quite the journey. Seeing someone begin interest in multisig and what we're trying to do is a sign frozenbits development is justified."

    CHRIS- "I wanted to start off with something other than multisig. In regards to apple, how do you take this news?"
    CALVIN- "Apple is creative, solid business plan and I think this is a calculated move they've been waiting for. I don't think I'd be far off from saying it both attracts a desirable demographic 18-25 years of age back into apple. It may also play into their new tone of "we're still cool and we like cool things." Like bicoin!
    CHRIS- Insightful, Didn't think of that.

    CHRIS- "I seen a tweet the other day from you to armory. They released their own multisig feature called lockboxes I believe. Seeing you congratulate them was an interesting move."
    CALVIN- " I love armory, I personally use their wallet for cold storage. Nothing beats being in control of your own coins. This inspired me to strive to leave the customer in charge of their coins when designing frozenbits underlying protocol. So that tweet was out of genuine love for their service, and philosophy. Seeing them dive into multisig was wonderful, knowing that people are seeing advances and Armory out of all services is embracing is forthright."

    CHRIS- "There is so many different services out there, what makes frozenbit so special."
    CALVIN- "Lets forget about the multisignature difference for a minute, because I believe so many others are going to embrace it soon. Frozenbit is, and will always will be a company that learns from all those before it. We know people want to be in control of their coins, we know people want privacy, we know people don't want another mark managing a system where their coins could be at risk.
    I can assure you and any hearing about us for the first time or a long time follower that this is not the case. We have a dedicated team who works long nights, to get this to market as fast a possible. Great relations with bitcoin users, enthusiasts and even just the code behind it.
    CHRIS- "Nice outlook, what about features, bonuses and such?"
    CALVIN- "Frozenbit is the goodie bad of features. We pulled out all the stops to dedicate ourselves to living bitcoin. We use the same encryption techniques the military does, we store coins and wallets offline and we assign a cryptographic footprint to every account to sign their transactions when spending funds. Now our greatest feature is out strive to go mobile, very few wallets are.
    I can assure you this will be the easiest bitcoin platform you've ever used, simplicity, accessibility and security all in one platform. And friends, lets not forget about referring your friends and reaping rewards! We want everyone to be as protected as our users so we are PAYING out bonuses when you refer a user!"

    CHRIS- "Now, there isn't that much about you out there when I was researching into your developments."
    CALVIN- "Well I'm to Stanford university, I'm pursuing a masters in computer science and an MBA in risk management. Two things that make me keen and intrigued by bitcoin as a monetary system and it's underlying code. We're based in Palo alto, CA (Come visit us sometime, the coffee is on me) and there are 3 people working with me on this. We're a 100% self funded start-up, not one investor dollar is in this company we only answer to the people who love bitcoin and those who use our service.

    CHRIS- "I may take you up on the coffee. Thanks for the interview, I think that about sums up everything I wanted to personally ask you!"
    CALVIN- "Hey it's no problem. Like I said earlier thanks for doing this, bitcoin holds a lot of things that truly make it unique. I'm only one of the people unlocking those features and giving them to everyone equally.""




    What People have been saying about multisig:

    "Multisignature protocol caught my eye when gox failed. As someone who lost about every bitcoin they had in gox it intrigued me.
    I asked myself how so few people know about something so innovatively simple and built into bitcoins protocol. Multisig is the perfect marriage for bitcoin and security.
    Instead of one key, there are essentially 3 keys (or more) attributed to bitcoin address. It requires 2 of 3 private keys to-agree-to spend funds, that means you could hold all 3 for added security or have an address where you and your friends each have a key." -Chris, BitcoinEggHead.com


    "Imagine a safe in a bank that needs two keys to unlock the safe at any time – the bank’s key and your personal key. Multisignature addresses capture the essence of this but without needing to be in the same place" - Thomas Kerin, Bitswap

    "Year of Multisig"- Gavin Andresen, Bitcoin Core Developer


     So why aren't you using multisig? Protect your funds today at, http://FrozenBit.io


     Team information is currently being typed up at the time your seeing this, and github will be updated and uploaded when site is finished. We don't want people using a broken product now do we?

    Feel like supporting the team? You can contribute at 3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL, thank you.[/list]
    632  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: My Interview with CEO of Frozenbit.io, Multsignature Bitcoin Wallet on: June 12, 2014, 07:01:47 PM
    Looks like this is going to be serious wallet competitor on market...
    Hope you'll find a proper way to be sustainable.

    BTW: do you have a public donation address?


     I just set up a onename.io page, -redacted-

     Our address is 15yqW7NaGUbq1B3WZ6Th1m1XNaMaiSzHar

     Thank you.

     -Cole
    633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 12, 2014, 06:49:55 PM
    I'm amazed they generate keys and send them to users. This just goes to show that anyone will come up with a gimmicky system, which offers nothing outside new besides a 'web wallet with questionable security'. I really wish providers of such things made a better effort to ask the community for feedback before implementing such a bad design.
    -------------------

     Again I would like state no information has been released about the service, the story presented here is just that. It contains no official information and the person who typed this has no affiliation with frozenbit and has no factual knowledge of the service. As the service is open-source and everything we have stated can be proven.

     So I will again reiterate keys are all generated in browser by the user. As there is an offline package that is usable.
     

     Stay tuned for official information today in about 4 hours.
    634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 12, 2014, 06:28:02 PM
    Announcement will happen in less than 5 hours from now.
    635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 09, 2014, 08:03:51 PM
    If I have to use a multisig online wallet the only things I ask for are:

    in a 2 of 3 multisign I have to create the 3 priv keys  and I am the one who gives one of them to the online wallet.

    the other 2 will be cold priv keys  ( one on a trezor/coldwallet and the other on a paperwallet)


    privs keys generated for third-parties are not enough for a serious user.

    IMHO is better an aproach like this:
    https://api.trustedcoin.com/#/example-2-of-3




     Everything is done in browser for you, client side. So you technically make the keys. Using the open-source portion you can create your own addresses offline. Thus fufilling both your requests. What needs to be known is this product has to be able to reach everyone. Not just technically proficent, it's IMPERATIVE for the spread of multisig.


    "Priv keys generated for third-parties are not enough for a serious user."

     That claim isn't tested, so I can't attest or confirm that. No business I know of is currently embracing multi-sig. I do know of businesses I've been in contact with that does want to use multi-sig but just couldn't piece it together.

     Bitcoin is built for a global economy so no one has to exchange currency anymore. All money united into one math based coin. Multisig is based on securing pockets trustlessly and providing the need for businesses to get involved. The last thing we want to hear about is a business getting robbed of millions in coins because a rouge employee or floating key.

     Trusted coin is nice, but it has a withdraw delay. If you need to pay on the fly you simply can't. Also it's a little clunky and it's not clear on how to access your coins. Simplicity, usability and accessibility is what FrozenBit does.

    Can All three keys be generated offline? and then, one of them sent to you? sorry if i didnt undestand, but not too much info about how it works in your web/post

    I understand your desire of bringing  easiness , but when we talk about btc, security goes first.


    watching this project.... good luck



     Stay tuned for Thursday when we release full information, this was simply to spread awareness of the project (a teaser).

     Also watch for video releasing soon!
    636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 09, 2014, 07:42:21 PM
    If I have to use a multisig online wallet the only things I ask for are:

    in a 2 of 3 multisign I have to create the 3 priv keys  and I am the one who gives one of them to the online wallet.

    the other 2 will be cold priv keys  ( one on a trezor/coldwallet and the other on a paperwallet)


    privs keys generated for third-parties are not enough for a serious user.

    IMHO is better an aproach like this:
    https://api.trustedcoin.com/#/example-2-of-3




     Everything is done in browser for you, client side. So you technically make the keys. Using the open-source portion you can create your own addresses offline. Thus fufilling both your requests. What needs to be known is this product has to be able to reach everyone. Not just technically proficent, it's IMPERATIVE for the spread of multisig.

    "Priv keys generated for third-parties are not enough for a serious user."

     That claim isn't tested, so I can't attest or confirm that. No business I know of is currently embracing multi-sig. I do know of businesses I've been in contact with that does want to use multi-sig but just couldn't piece it together.

     Bitcoin is built for a global economy so no one has to exchange currency anymore. All money united into one math based coin. Multisig is based on securing pockets trustlessly and providing the need for businesses to get involved. The last thing we want to hear about is a business getting robbed of millions in coins because a rouge employee or floating key.

     Trusted coin is nice, but it has a withdraw delay. If you need to pay on the fly you simply can't. Also it's a little clunky and it's not clear on how to access your coins. Simplicity, usability and accessibility is what FrozenBit does.
    637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 09, 2014, 06:49:01 PM

     Thanks for your questions, please do check out the release on thursday to see the real information of the wallet. Like previously stated it's open source so anyone can use, change and enjoy the site the way they want to.
    638  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: My Interview with CEO of Frozenbit.io, Multsignature Bitcoin Wallet on: June 09, 2014, 03:13:47 PM
    Wow looks really good
    when is the project coming out?

     Mid July or sooner. Citing, things take time. We've built things from scratch. Were also not just copying things together and releasing. Our goal is to release something people will use.

     It's in the best interest of general adoption if we could simplify the whole multisig stigma but stay the course of its idea. We feel what were doing will fully fulfil that.
    639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: During all this fear about the 51% you missed......... on: June 09, 2014, 02:53:40 PM

    all that is needed is services or even simple code to make a signed TX.. then the only thing that is needed to do online

    i understand this. but for multisig, the user has to remember/use atleast two long entropy keys to be able to use coins

    the thing that i find funny is that frozenbit does the generating of the 3 keys and gives them to users.. which i find less secure and less user friendly than simply allowing me to use my own privkey offline, which is also easier to input and keep safe.

    I would like to state to franky you've made that comment days before we've given information on the service. Therefore I'd like to digress from the assumption we make keys, as it's all done client side. The fundamental flaw in you idea is you have to actively have your key stored. Since that's done your risk of theft goes up 25%

     Your idea is just that, our project is open source so you'll quickly find all claims debunked.  You could add onto what weve done with your idea, but all I'm seeing is flags from that. I personally woulsnt use anything that requires me to store my key just to log in.

     Please do refrain from speculation days before the announcement. To put you down lightly you're just wrong.
     
     Also note nothing is set in stone, code can be changed. Features will be added so give it time to get it right or you can ask satoshi why he took more than an hour to make Bitcoin.

     Were only a public stepping stone onto multisig. But I give you this task, get 5 people to use bitcoin today. Then try to show them the code. Odds are they'll be steered by that. So let's remove the oh look we can remove this step talk. It's only a crafty way we've been designing to show the protocol is a much more acute way.
    640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your favorite positive Bitcoin news story so far this year? on: June 09, 2014, 03:20:55 AM
    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642791.0

     :L
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