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581  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: GreenAddress: open source multisig wallet service on: June 30, 2014, 06:30:35 PM
Server assisted multisignature sir!

You should know, you are trying to create a multisig wallet yourself! Let us know if you want any tip of code sharing! We are on github!



 It appears GreenAddress is attempting to run a scam, or just using children tactics.

It appears FrozenBit has been brought into this mix somehow. I have greater assumptions of why this is, mostly because greenaddress is pointing fingers.

If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do. However, I can assure you we are NOT behind this.

 Anyway I invite you to read about our service http://frozenbit.io, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for. Multisig is about awareness. All of my talks with https://www.BitGo.com have been about spreading awareness not crying when someone comes into the mix who does things a little different. I think you could learn some things from that playbook.

 Anyway the Gist is, don't point fingers and address what this guy is saying. It's not that hard is it?

 Now you can put your finger down.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/


 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if they're affiliated with FrozenBit or not. It's a matter of their opinion on what they see above, if you can't take criticism you're in the wrong business.

 To answer your questions

1.) Is that a question?

2.) Is that a question?

3.) Ok

4.) No, I just see this as something people just aren't doing. It's much easier to just let users control all their keys instead of lying to them.



Your more fake than your reddit accounts : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/
582  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: GreenAddress: open source multisig wallet service on: June 30, 2014, 06:25:17 PM
Server assisted multisignature sir!

You should know, you are trying to create a multisig wallet yourself! Let us know if you want any tip of code sharing! We are on github!



You surely have no problem scamming people with a central server, do you understand how big of a risk your putting on people with that?!?

also did you already forget?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/


You have no problem using shills, and sock puppets. Do you think people are stupid enough not to notice?

You must of glossed over your criticism thread, alot of people saying they don't trust greenaddress.

Alsono one knows greenaddress, you have yet to make news. If you want multisig awareness don't cry over things, address them then start a campaign to spread awareness.


   -Calvin
583  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 06:24:10 PM


You surely have no problem scamming people with a central server, do you understand how big of a risk your putting on people with that?!?

also did you already forget?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/


You have no problem using shills, and sock puppets. Do you think people are stupid enough not to notice?

You must of glossed over your criticism thread, alot of people saying they don't trust greenaddress.

Also no one knows greenaddress, you have yet to make news. If you want multisig awareness don't cry over things, address them then start a campaign to spread awareness.

 We have our own campaign planned, if you think it'd be beneficial you should actively engage with people working on multisig.

 Your press is already bad as it is, wouldn't hurt.


   -Calvin
584  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: GreenAddress: open source multisig wallet service on: June 30, 2014, 06:16:22 PM
I just noticed something disturbing?


"Server assisted bitcoin wallet which runs in your browser or on your phone or as a local unminified/inspectionable App."


 Server assisted, doesn't this mean you control all keys and could easily steal funds?

 I also just seen this on reddit:


EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/



 I'd think twice before using greenaddress.


585  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 06:09:51 PM
Well done, according to the mods they are all your sockpuppets

Quick, delete all accounts!

 I don't think you've shared a factual thing today.

How does anyone use greenaddress when their founder constantly lies, uses deceptive practices then tries to cover it up? I'm glad someone brought it up though, forces you onto the defensive.

 Which you still haven't addressed that article.


More of a reason to not use services that hold your keys for you. They have sketchy founders.
586  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 06:02:29 PM

 There is enough green address sock puppets in there.

 However, since you refuse to acutely address any question or criticism you're given I see no reason to further this conversation.
587  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Greenaddress uses deceptive buissness practices, could cost users millions. on: June 30, 2014, 05:39:27 PM
What should I address?

I asked you questions which you didn't answer

How can I address emptiness? I mean I'm tempted but there is really nothing to evaluate other than FUD and false advertising.

I see you avoid addressing the questions  Shocked Shocked Shocked

 It appears GreenAddress is attempting to run a scam, or just using children tactics.

It appears FrozenBit has been brought into this mix somehow. I have greater assumptions of why this is, mostly because greenaddress is pointing fingers.

If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do. However, I can assure you we are NOT behind this.

 Anyway I invite you to read about our service http://frozenbit.io, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for. Multisig is about awareness. All of my talks with https://www.BitGo.com have been about spreading awareness not crying when someone comes into the mix who does things a little different. I think you could learn some things from that playbook.

 Anyway the Gist is, don't point fingers and address what this guy is saying. It's not that hard is it?

 Now you can put your finger down.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/

 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if they're affiliated with FrozenBit or not. It's a matter of their opinion on what they see above, if you can't take criticism you're in the wrong business.

 To answer your questions

1.) Is that a question?

2.) Is that a question?

3.) Ok

4.) No, I just see this as something people just aren't doing. It's much easier to just let users control all their keys instead of lying to them.



EDIT: Your more fake than your reddit accounts:  http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/
588  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 05:38:21 PM
I see you avoid addressing the questions  Shocked Shocked Shocked

 It appears GreenAddress is attempting to run a scam, or just using children tactics.


It appears FrozenBit has been brought into this mix somehow. I have greater assumptions of why this is, mostly because greenaddress is pointing fingers.

If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do. However, I can assure you we are NOT behind this.

 Anyway I invite you to read about our service http://frozenbit.io, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for. Multisig is about awareness. All of my talks with https://www.BitGo.com have been about spreading awareness not crying when someone comes into the mix who does things a little different. I think you could learn some things from that playbook.

 Anyway the Gist is, don't point fingers and address what this guy is saying. It's not that hard is it?

 Now you can put your finger down.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/


 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if they're affiliated with FrozenBit or not. It's a matter of their opinion on what they see above, if you can't take criticism you're in the wrong business.

 To answer your questions

1.) Is that a question?

2.) Is that a question?

3.) Ok

4.) No, I just see this as something people just aren't doing. It's much easier to just let users control all their keys instead of lying to them.



Your more fake than your reddit accounts : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/
589  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Greenaddress uses deceptive buissness practices, could cost users millions. on: June 30, 2014, 05:32:15 PM

 Lol at you ignoring what I said above. Why aren't you addressing what this guy posted?
590  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Greenaddress uses deceptive buissness practices, could cost users millions. on: June 30, 2014, 05:26:42 PM
 It appears FrozenBit has been brought into this mix somehow. I have greater assumptions of why this is, mostly because greenaddress is pointing fingers.

If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do. However, I can assure you we are NOT behind this.

 Anyway I invite you to read about our service http://frozenbit.io, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for. Multisig is about awareness. All of my talks with https://www.BitGo.com have been about spreading awareness not crying when someone comes into the mix who does things a little different. I think you could learn some things from that playbook.

 Anyway the Gist is, don't point fingers and address what this guy is saying. It's not that hard is it?

 Now you can put your finger down.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/

 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if they're affiliated with FrozenBit or not. It's a matter of their opinion on what they see above, if you can't take criticism you're in the wrong business.
591  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 05:19:03 PM

 I think that quote about sums this guys post up.  Roll Eyes

http://gyazo.com/9d6c23cdaca1c5ed014ce6750d113f58  < That

Anyway I invite you to read about our service, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for.

 If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=670613.msg7587965#msg7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/

 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.
592  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 30, 2014, 04:29:55 AM
Great news coming soon! Trust me, it's good news.

 

(ooooo he's being mysterious) *this is your only hint*



(I wonder what it is?)

[Clicks send private message] {Dear calvin } | { can I know what this news is please?},

Typing reply...............


 NO

593  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 29, 2014, 03:19:30 PM
Quote
3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL

What is this address starting with a 3? I don't think I can remember seeing a bitcoin address starting with anything but a '1'.

 That's a Multisignature address, that's what our service is offering to anyone who signs up.

 Multisignature address are address in which multiple people can secure funds trustless, and solo actors can enchance security of funds. The basic protocol is confusing, but still it involves entering 3 PUBLIC keys (assume 2 of 3) this creates an address. These public keys DO NOT have to belong to the same person, the private keys do not have to be on the same computer and you do not have to be online.

 That is the basic creation, to spend you do createtx on a site like coinb.in you enter the PRIVATE key of the address you got the PUBLIC key from. AND you export for signatures Cheesy That's the basics of multisig.

 Note this is a rough summary
594  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 27, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
 Backup domain has been established.

 frozenb.it

 check it out, and incase something happens to the first one. This one is able to kick into action.
595  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 26, 2014, 07:14:50 AM
hiding technicals... vs open source

which is it?

Explain Like I'm Five

 I didn't realize a site HAD to be technical Smiley

 Also I'm not sure how many apps you've developed but it requires code to do. Code means technicals, now code can be used in nice ways to make nice things that hide what that code is doing. This means things like facebook can be made without 1970's internet protocol being displayed.
 
 Thus we have a fork in the road, on one side we have gox where code is hidden, and the other we have open-source paradise. Where the code is hidden on site, but not hidden from anyone who want's to use it. Simply people don't want things that look like their in the 80's they want intuitive, innovate and usable platforms. You want bitcoin adoption to spread? That's how you do it.


 So frozenbit is both. See explanation above Smiley

           
596  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 25, 2014, 09:01:20 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/293670/multisignature_wallets_means_anyone_anywhere_can/
597  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 25, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
thank you for hearing our suggestions.

eagerly awaiting your release...

 Thank you, I'm sure you'll find alot of features that allow you to better manage and control your coins with us. We've done alot of work on hiding technicals, allowing key management and security for our users. I think everyone who uses bitcoin will get a kick from some of these features.
598  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 24, 2014, 06:24:41 PM
you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.

google auth  is better and safer than SMS, and keeps your privacy , so SMS only should be available as another type of 2nd factor auth. not a mandatory one.


Edit: I've seen you have removed phone number from sign up form. Nice

 Yeah, we're integrating google authentication but leaving SMS as an option. Thanks for your contribution to the site.
599  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 23, 2014, 09:49:56 PM
 Update:
-Site is undergoing first security code reviews
-Github Will soon be created
-Fixed Issue where SSL was not applied to whole site, now it is.
-Site is now being redirected back to post during code reviews.
600  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets on: June 23, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.
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