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621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein, Logarithmic Release, X9_62_prime256v1 on: September 21, 2015, 12:18:16 PM
UPDATES!! 

Good morning woodcutters.  There's been a flurry of activity in the clearing as a few people straighten their woodpiles and sharpen their chainsaws, pausing their work to enjoy a gesture with the forest spirit. 

Just to be clear there are no changes to the core protocol of this coin under discussion.  No forks, soft or hard, no news about Skein being broken or prime256v1 being an NSA termite trap or network ddos vulnerabilities.  So if you aren't feeling the need for a break you can just go right back to your chopping and stacking.   

What has changed is as follows.  Bitillionaire has brought in some nice paper wallet production functionality into the QT wallet.  Using paper wallets previously would have required you to go to logaddress.org/index.html and deal with some rather broken images there.  In practice I used that site to generate and manipulate woodcoin addresses, bringing the keys into other software for printing or encrypting.  Now, you can make paper wallets from the comfort of your own woodshed.  A nod of the head goes out to the dogecoin team for being the first that I know of to implement this.     

There's also been the addition of a new "Woodcoin.org" information page, also thanks to Bitillionaire, no longer based on Wordpress.  Construction there is ongoing, while the old site is still up temporarily at archive.woodcoin.org.  Work continues on making the QT wallet nicer to use, and in formalizing the reference implementation of woodcoin to be even better prepared to fight off the goblins of nondeterminism.  There should be some nice festivities in the works as we near the first-full-revolution-of-Earth-about-Sol mark in our history. 

There's also a new pool in the works courtesy of l8nite-miner.  Get your chain-hatchets and VPSs ready.     

Global hash rate is down a bit recently, so chopping should be more profitable.  Small quantities of LOG can also be obtained on C-Cex for a lower price than it has been in at least a few months, at about 1/2 of the all time high price.  Last trade was at 520 sat per.         

funkenstein_the_dwarf out. 
622  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Voting for block size increase proposals on: September 20, 2015, 01:33:38 PM
623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Founder Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison on: September 20, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Well I guess its true: Governments can't stop Bitcoin. They can just imprison its users instead.

Sorry for your Ross.

That's making quite a quick judgement. There are normal users of Bitcoin, then there are criminal users of Bitcoin who use it for it's anonymous and irreversible abilities. You can't tell me that he was wrongfully imprisoned for being involved in the biggest darknet market of trafficking illegal drugs and controlled substances. While a supporter, also a criminal...

If he can't tell you, I will.

Anyone imprisoned for "trafficking controlled substances"  is wrongfully imprisoned. 
This has nothing to do with Ross who wasn't doing that, but it is an unarguable fact. 

   

624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein, Logarithmic Release, X9_62_prime256v1 on: September 16, 2015, 10:58:08 AM
I just started throwing some hash toward this coin and I must say that the blockchain downloaded in roughly 15 minutes. Completely amazing. Im getting a decent speed and its moving right along while solo.

Hi, glad to hear it's working for you and welcome new chopper!    Yeah the block chain is tiny at the moment, daily TX rate has been very small. 

That being said, you raise an interesting question.  Typically with bitcoin proper the block chain download is time-limited by CPU verification of all the ECDSA signatures.  That's why it's so much slower than just a download.  I don't know offhand if Woodcoin's elliptic curve (prime256v1) will give any different performance for this task.  I expect it to the be exactly the same (the only difference is the constants, not their length nor the operations)  but it's worth running some tests to see.  I'll get back to y'all on that Wink 



625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Woodcoin [LOG] Pure Skein, Logarithmic Release, X9_62_prime256v1 on: September 11, 2015, 11:39:15 AM
Good to see coin is doing well for a long time....I am in.

Thanks bittamak Smiley  I'm glad to see an exchange doing well too!  Will we get a spot?

"Long time" is relative.  Woodcoin is 0.0000004% through it's release schedule at present.  But yeah, the altcoin world hasn't exactly been known for its longevity. 

626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 42 | + super rare | + only 42 coins to be mined | + Update b4 Block 55,000 on: September 11, 2015, 12:49:13 AM
lol w/ hippietech!  Cheesy 

in other news:

627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If *someone* is stressing BTC... Do you support stressing *someone*? on: September 10, 2015, 08:55:42 PM
Stop what you are doing and have a little chat with your own death.  Then get back to me about being "stressed". 
628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Wtf is happening in the last days? Funding to da mooon! on: September 10, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
    The last days were crazy. So much news and alot of funding:


+
Visa, Capital One Back $30 Million Round for Blockchain Startup Chain

+Bitcoin-to-Cash App Abra Raises $12 Million Series A

+Coinalytics Raises $1.1 Million for Blockchain Data Platform

+
Bitcoin Hardware Wallet Case Raises $2.25 Million in Funding

+Altcoin Exchange ShapeShift Raises $1.6 Million in New Funding

+Paymium Raises €1 Million to Boost Bitcoin Merchant Onboarding[/li][/list]


Summer is over  Cool


Companies attempting to use bitcoin are crushed just like an intelligence asset is terminated: fiat bombardment, aka "bought out".  Lets hope the people involved are made of stronger stuff and can continue the fight.   


629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stress test is underway - Watch your fees. on: September 10, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
There's only one way to deal with spam.  Ignore it.
Perhaps you have something more interesting to do with your time. 
630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We Don't Want Democracy, We Want Consensus! on: September 07, 2015, 03:55:55 AM
we need also democracy for good sakes a idea into the best position to be able to be voted in order to the followers to be able not to be nervouse and kill of bad consequence world without the good ideas to capitalize
It would be a dangerous world for Bitcon if this guys  Roll Eyes vote had the same weight and power as a vote from one of the core developers. Voting by coins owned is also dangerous as it leaves the few with the most coins in control of Bitcoin. The exchanges which have Bitcoin on deposit would have the ability to control Bitcoin, also Satoshi could come back and rule Bitcoin with an iron fist with his coins.

A vote is in no way dangerous, it is simply an opinion poll.  A coin-vote is a verifiable opinion poll, nothing more.  To algorithmically decide life and death based on the results of one of these polls, sure that would be dangerous.  But nobody suggested that. 

Our Coin-vote project is just an easy way for people to register their opinion.  Somebody could do the same with dpaste really, just that tallying them would be more of a pain.  How is that dangerous? 

   
631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We Don't Want Democracy, We Want Consensus! on: September 06, 2015, 03:17:09 PM
The coin vote thing is a double edged sword. It can seem a good idea but let's be serious, anyone with an agenda and a lot of money would be able to single handedly decide the fate of Bitcoin by buying a lot of coins and voting with them.

Thanks for your reply.  You have a point.  However consider that such a person with an agenda could also for a similar price "decide the fate of bitcoin" by using those coins to DDOS the network, or using them to buy asics to attack the network, or otherwise (buy off pool operators, form standing army, who knows).  

It is also worth pointing out that buying half the bitcoins will cost you A LOT more than a billion USD.  My guess is the figure would be more like a trillion, but even then you might not get to 7million BTC.  A lot of hodlers are of the "come get these private keys out of the clenched fist of my corpse or don't get them at all" variety.  Others are of the "I laugh at any number of USD" variety.    

It's also worth noting that even with a huge stake demonstrating their opinion, it doesn't mean bitcoin will comply with said opinion.  
632  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Coin-Vote [ANN] on: September 05, 2015, 12:28:02 AM
633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We Don't Want Democracy, We Want Consensus! on: September 04, 2015, 02:26:30 PM

Via this tool Satoshi Nakamoto's vote would have a lot of weight and other very rich Bitcoin Whales would have incentive not to vote because anytime you access your private keys there are risks involved.

Thanks for your comments BitProdigy! I have no argument with your points here.  Indeed, a coin-vote is weighted by coin ownership, not because it's my opinion that this is what the people want, it's just how it works.  Also it requires caring enough to go and make an ECDSA signature, that is also just how it works.      

It is of course possible to be as paranoid and secure with your private keys as you like, as adamstgBit points out, just as when spending bitcoin.  

For another example, if you wish to declare your support for BIP -001, you need to sign the string "How-should-bitcoin-be-sca-BIP--001---b327d7b79e70eeb".  

You could print that out, take the paper into your hardened Faraday Cage bunker through the airlock (which is built to ensure no robotic insects enter with you), start up your raspberry PI in there and use your choice of signed / vetted software to generate the signature with your 10000 BTC address.  Then, print out the signature and carry it back out through the airlock.  Once back outside of the Faraday cage you can post your signature here to the forum using a stranger's mobile phone and we'll enter the vote into the coin-vote database for you.    

    
634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: #Blocksize Survey on: September 03, 2015, 07:52:41 PM
If you think this kind of thing could somehow be useful but you're not sure you trust Themos to officiate, you could use a public fraud-proof voting system:

http://coin-vote.com/poll/55e8a33299baadff0a34acb7
635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: We Don't Want Democracy, We Want Consensus! on: September 03, 2015, 07:51:39 PM
Relevant consensus tool:

http://coin-vote.com/poll/55e8a33299baadff0a34acb7
636  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Voting for block size increase proposals on: September 03, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
Oh, and here's a coin-vote on which proposal you like, or add others:

http://coin-vote.com/poll/55e8a33299baadff0a34acb7

Thanks to OP for suggesting the wording. 
637  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Voting for block size increase proposals on: September 03, 2015, 07:34:57 PM
Anonymous voting

Alternatively you can vote by sending 0.00000001 BTC to a special Bitcoin Address*. In that case the transaction must have no more than two outputs: one to address for voting, and one back to your initial address (known as change). Weight of the vote will be calculated proportional to this "change".

Bitcoin address for voting must be created in according to the following rules:
1 - Perform RIPEMD-160 hashing on the vote message
2 - Add version byte (0x00) in front of RIPEMD-160 hash
3 - Perform SHA-256 hash on the extended RIPEMD-160 result
4 - Perform SHA-256 hash on the result of the previous SHA-256 hash
5 - Take the first 4 bytes of the second SHA-256 hash. This is the address checksum
6 - Add the 4 checksum bytes from stage 5 at the end of extended RIPEMD-160 hash from stage 2. This is the 25-byte binary Bitcoin Address
7 - Convert the result from a byte string into a base58 string using Base58Check encoding. This is the most commonly used Bitcoin Address format

vote message syntax:
Code:
#BITCOINVOTE {+|-}{BIP id} -{BIP id} -{BIP id} ...

where

- available BIP identifiers are: BIP100, BIP101, BIP102, BIP103, BIP8MB, BIPCBBSRA, BIPRosenfeld, BIPUpal
- only first BIP may begin with '+'
- BIPs starting with '-' must be listed in alphabetical order
- all BIPs must be separated by single spaces

for example:

message = "#BITCOINVOTE +BIP8MB -BIP101 -BIP102 -BIP103 -BIPCBBSRA"
step1 - 1fb5a90f8f7eff851c32c498961a98f9d2b60417
step2 - 001fb5a90f8f7eff851c32c498961a98f9d2b60417
step3 - 6c2fddb0647247f2e2c97f17c87ebcf88fe82f4579e6cd9cc1f1077e4ba66d22
step4 - ec840e1f7122bfb89387675ebb1e9b1b6364a920bc44fbe982bd099a09deda69
step5 - ec840e1f
step6 - 001fb5a90f8f7eff851c32c498961a98f9d2b60417ec840e1f
step7 - 13tfZw4qS2SXeoLwxWPtQmcGD9st22g9VY

In this way the address for this message is 13tfZw4qS2SXeoLwxWPtQmcGD9st22g9VY

Address for message "#BITCOINVOTE -BIP101 -BIP103 -BIP8MB" is 1PeR4ZrioU6hNVofUyPijeJgWbmWbzdYLN

If you would like to vote for BIP101, but against BIP100 send 1 satoshi from all your addresses to 1LK5hwGUCZoYtU5tysU5EJr2dyWBUyM5hB

and so on

___
*Note that no one has the private keys for those addresses, therefore this satoshi will be lost forever

For the record, I have no idea what you are trying to do here.

Sending one satoshi "from all your addresses" to a burn address ?  Note that I could make as many addresses for myself as I like. 

Why?  I thought you were trying to do a proof of stake vote?  One can simply sign with their private key; what you suggest requires getting the private key out of cold storage anyway to move the 1 sat.   

The mechanics of a coin-vote are self explanatory if you give them some thought, and we have created a platform so you can do exactly that.  Please take a look at our FAQ:

http://faq.coin-vote.com/

and read the white paper here:

http://frass.woodcoin.org/introducing-coin-vote/ 

Such a vote could be decentralized, but there seems little reason to do so.  All votes are public.  No money ever changes hands.  There's no way for the centralized counter (database administrator) to alter the tally --  every voter can verify his/her vote is on the list at any time and the tally is public.   

       
638  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Voting for block size increase proposals on: September 03, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
What about BIP000?   

http://www.cryptomashup.com/2015/09/bitcoin-i-support-bip000/

It appears to be the default, but if counting votes -- it should still be an option. 
639  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Voting for block size increase proposals on: September 02, 2015, 06:34:25 PM
Aha,

  I like your interface!  
  You may have seen our offering in the space:  http://coin-vote.com

  There is another service coming on line soon:  cryptovoter.com


  These all have similar ideas in terms of "proof of stake" voting, we should all make it possible to dump the votes so anyone can verify them.  It would be wise of us to choose a precise wording if we wish to combine results.  

  I'm not yet convinced a coin-vote or stake vote will influence the future of bitcoin on this issue, however I am glad to see that we have the option to look at what the biggest coin holders are saying.  

  I expect nothing to come of these votes unless big holders sign some signatures from cold storage, to the tune of 100kBTC in votes or more.


  Cheers --   funkenstein the dwarf

  
640  Economy / Economics / Re: What can greece central bank do? on: September 02, 2015, 06:20:14 PM

 Does Greece somehow magically discover a great source in their country and boost tourism and expand economy and be half as much as the great country they were once believed to be? Tongue


So let me get this straight: you think collecting counterfeit tokens pushed by secretive foreign scamcoin operators is the ultimate definition of a great country? 





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