So many things to condiser i still want to be able to buy fractional GHS like cex.io. Maybe they need a solar farm to create like 50,000 watts of solar power lol im sure that would make prices better and everyone would be like oh look lets buy from them they are enviromental company  Solar power plants are also an investment. They are really expensive, need maintenance, the installation is tough and also you need to own property to put them on. Not every surface will do. While in the longterm they can be proven great, you'd need a couple of years or so to save the money you spent on them. Maybe that's not the best thing for bitcoin mining since the rewards get smaller by time. |
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I tried now.stay away.!
Because nothing to do with the demo.!!
When you play with real bitcoin will be lost instantly.!
Lol! Note that test mode is not based on the provably fair algorithm, it is just there to let you enjoy the gameplay. Yes, it is not the same algorithm. No, you don't lose instantly, many people won already and cashed out. It's not my game, it's you being unlucky... You should really change that... It's too misleading. While I often hit a multiplier close to 10x in test mode the one I would usually get when betting with real BTC was 0.0x Plus, you need to create an actual faq instead of linking to this post. |
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I have done some calculations on bitcoinwisdom for 1Ghs/day you get 0.00001834 btc And on Havelock it stays that for 1 share of Petamine which is 1Ghs is paying only ฿0.00000408 for dividend. But I am not sure how many times they pay the dividend per day.
Peta's fee is 0.0049315$ per GH per day. At current rates that's more than 0.00001000 BTC. Assuming that the current difficulty allows one GH/s to mine about 0.00001800 BTC a day they charge a fee greater than 50% (!) |
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I will argue with your post there, you're misinforming people. There are pictures with open setups (no isle separation) everywhere. You haven't seen any other setups, have you? I also believe they showed the real data center pictures and a warehouse full of miners getting ready to be plugged. And a day after zen changed the agreement to say that the miners are virtual. They just keep contradicting themselves over and over. Seeing newly created account support them fanatically just makes this more suspicious. |
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Another thing, the money is not distributed randomly. The more computational power one has the more bitcoin he gets, it's not random in any way.
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omg. the 15min value is always 0.909 of that in 5s. Definitely it is not the real-time value of the mining power... hashnest is faking the displayed value...
What are you even talking about? It's always different for me. |
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4chan was right...   What do you mean? Sorry not familiar with who 4Chan is. He was probably trying to discredit what you said. People in 4chan make the most irrational claims possible. |
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I'm thinking that this could just be a visual bug. The day I bought Gh/s my deposit wasn't showing even after 10 confirmations. But I tried buying it even though my wallet was showing a zero balance and it worked. If someone has this bug but you know you have a balance greater than the minimum withdrawal you might be able to withdraw.
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At this moment, my miner status shows a negative number in "unassigned earnings".  I did not expect this to happen before a few months at least. Come on, the subscription is not even over yet. This has to be a bug in stats, otherwise it would be unacceptable. Please follow-up. Mine is in the same situantion. I have been mining for 12 hours as of now: Your workers 5m 15m 1h 1d Unassigned Earnings UMISOO 82.074 74.6748 78.3117 83.1067 -9.27e-06 And they're away for the weekend plus those Chinese holiday... What a time for this bug to come up. Did you try withdrawing though? |
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So WTF is this then? How do they make money to pay off their users? I don't think this can be an ordinary ponzi, everybody knows info about owners and the company, if they scam so many people, they ll be in jail for millions of years. There must be some other agenda behind this.
Have you heard of Bernie Madoff? He was very well known and respected in his community and field. He was active in charity also. He made lots of people lots of money. He was also a crook running one of the largest ponzis ever known. Ponzi scams operate by being public. If people haven't heard of you then your ponzi isn't very good. Besides that GAW miner CEOs have never publicly given money to charity and before their GAWminers venture they were mostly known for taking taxpayer money through their telecommunications company in order to build phone towers but never actually building them. They've even scammed in the past. I have read this in the past. Any proof of this? Here's where found this information from. http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1yh23g/has_anyone_here_sold_their_own_rig_on_ebay_and/cfkvbbk |
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So WTF is this then? How do they make money to pay off their users? I don't think this can be an ordinary ponzi, everybody knows info about owners and the company, if they scam so many people, they ll be in jail for millions of years. There must be some other agenda behind this.
Have you heard of Bernie Madoff? He was very well known and respected in his community and field. He was active in charity also. He made lots of people lots of money. He was also a crook running one of the largest ponzis ever known. Ponzi scams operate by being public. If people haven't heard of you then your ponzi isn't very good. Besides that GAW miner CEOs have never publicly given money to charity and before their GAWminers venture they were mostly known for taking taxpayer money through their telecommunications company in order to build phone towers but never actually building them. They've even scammed in the past. |
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Here 's a quote for refrence: Can we get some some information on if and how the hashlet has affected trademybit? This would be interesting.
Hasn't affected TMB at all, we're not getting any hash from them. And another one: I own/operate Multipool.us. If someone from GAW miners can give me your username(s) on the pool, I can verify your hashrate. Or, you can set up a "handle" via the account page and it will appear rather than your User ID under the top hashrates for each coin (assuming you are within the top 15, which should be easily within your capabilities.)
For the record, I have not been contacted (to my knowledge) by anyone at GAW miners about setting up an account, IP whitelisting what would most likely be a massive number of workers, etc.
And another one:
There is zero truth to this whatsoever. The "out of town" is family business (I'm still here, just much less active for the week). I've never had any contact with ZenMiner (at least that I know of, it might have been a user contacting me affiliated with them, but if so, they didn't make it known they had an association with ZenMiner). On another note, that droplet isn't one of our icons (we don't have any icons on WP), I think they just grabbed an image that would roughly describe "pool" and used it for us (and for them).
I've been watching a bit of the ZenMiner stuff (bought a 1MH for testing), and while I don't want to comment on it much, when pointing that 1MH from ZenMiner to WP, I can't find that 1MH showing up anywhere in the pool logs. It might be too small and get lost in the noise (if someone has a 100MH+ account on ZenMiner, please contact me if you'd like to help test for a few hours).
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What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?
Here are the current rates. Maintenance fee can be as much as 50% for pools other than ZenPool, so keep that in mind. -snip- I presume none of admins of these pools has ever identified these hashlets mining at their pools? That's correct. They're not throwing any hash to the pools, not even matching the real payout rates. It's even mentioned in the terms that this is virtual. |
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This video brings up some good points about FIAT money. I remember prediction saying that the dollar could collapse in 2014 and to be honest the government shutdown was really scary. But to be honest, I don't think that the collapse of the US dollar would result into a worldwide economic crisis. Most likely it would result to America having to rebuilt it's economy and maybe factories coming back to the states due to cheap workers.
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What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?
Well, unless GAW finds an excuse to reduce the payout of their virtual miners it's perfectly possible to get a ROI with the current rate which is ~ 0.0005/MHs/day for the zenpool. Solo hashlets have the rate of the pool they're virtualy mining in. |
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I just called the phone listed in their website. It just throws you in an endless loophole and you never get to talk to an actual person. Press 1 for support 2 for information 3 for orders Whatever number you press it's just going to repeat. |
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my thoughts i have 30MH running on zenportal , I'm making more on this then at cex.io , at this time i'm thinking maybe i should pull out of cex.io and just double my money on zenportal
Cex is more of a daytrader thing. The main way people get profit there is trading, if you're a bit lucky maybe trading in a comblination with mining earnings. The dissadvantage with hashlets is that you don't get the advantage to cash out when you want, especially with big hash amounts were selling your account for a profit would be even harder. If you trust GAW, then I say go for it. Otherwise, don't. I just sold my zen account along with my hashlets because I wasn't really amused by the revelations through changes in the agreement. |
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They are credits given on your balance held in zencloud. They are essentially paying interest on your funds if you leave it sit.
They are giving hashpoints for upvotes on hashtalk, the reason I shared that is because I was and am still banned, there is no way I was helpful on there.
Maybe people there are trying to silently show that they agree with some speculation by upvting so they don't get banned. Who knows... This interest system makes it sound like it's a ponzi even more though. |
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Maidak helped with an escrow. I'm impressed with how smooth it went. He's really profesional and experienced. I'd trust him again and again.
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