GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)

[suchmoon]

edit - and WTF is Corne?

I think Corne is Viturrex and he's offering a buyout for VB batch 2:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update/30

[Honeycutt22]

edit - and WTF is Corne?

I think Corne is Viturrex and he's offering a buyout for VB batch 2:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/3973/batch-2-vb-update/30

AHhh, another reseller with inside info attempting to take advantage of people. Love it.

[ScryptHasher]

Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

[suchmoon]

Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".

[Honeycutt22]

Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".

That's hardly fair when they already delivered batch 1 equivalents. That stills screws batch 2. They changed their commitment when they delivered batch 1.

IMO - when they offered a quicker batch one, batch 2 should be equally expedited. Unless he just wanted the PR to beat KNC and doesn't care about batch 2 customers

[suchmoon]

Are they even shipping VB's ? or just sending out virtual miners to replace them?

So sketchy.. Makes you wonder how long this has been up their sleeve.

They don't. Batch 1 "early delivery" was an option to buyers to either convert to hashlets and lose the VB, or get  substitute miners in ZenCloud until the actual VB is delivered. To be fair the delivery was promised at the end of Q3 / beginning of Q4, which still gives them 1-2 months depending on how you define "beginning".

That's hardly fair when they already delivered batch 1 equivalents. That stills screws batch 2. They changed their commitment when they delivered batch 1.

IMO - when they offered a quicker batch one, batch 2 should be equally expedited. Unless he just wanted the PR to beat KNC and doesn't care about batch 2 customers

"Fair" was about physical miner delivery, whether batch 1 or batch 2, we are still not past the deadline. I agree with you on the early delivery, as it currently stands it doesn't sound fair at all.

[suchmoon]

I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769984.0

[alani123]

I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769984.0

I just called the phone listed in their website. It just throws you in an endless loophole and you never get to talk to an actual person.

Press 1 for support 2 for information 3 for orders Whatever number you press it's just going to repeat.

[alienesb]

I'm speechless...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/4236/turing-stations-atlantis-thoughts

They are legit though I verified their chips.

Someone who still has access to HT should post this link for those muppets.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=769984.0

What's the point, you'll just get down voted.

[suchmoon]

What's the point, you'll just get down voted.

I get the feeling you're not too happy about the VB deal

Well, muppets or not - nobody deserves to be scammed by this Turing deal. I fear that shill reviewer saying "they are legit" might give someone the impression that it's true.

[crazyivan]

What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

[alani123]

What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

Well, unless GAW finds an excuse to reduce the payout of their virtual miners it's perfectly possible to get a ROI with the current rate which is ~ 0.0005/MHs/day for the zenpool. Solo hashlets have the rate of the pool they're virtualy mining in.

[suchmoon]

What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

Here are the current rates. Maintenance fee can be as much as 50% for pools other than ZenPool, so keep that in mind.


Edited 2020-11-27 to fix a broken image

[crazyivan]

What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

Here are the current rates. Maintenance fee can be as much as 50% for pools other than ZenPool, so keep that in mind.

I presume none of admins of these pools has ever identified these hashlets mining at their pools?

[alani123]

What is current daily payout per hashlet? In other words, what is expected ROI, is it profitable to get this?

Here are the current rates. Maintenance fee can be as much as 50% for pools other than ZenPool, so keep that in mind.

-snip-

I presume none of admins of these pools has ever identified these hashlets mining at their pools?

That's correct. They're not throwing any hash to the pools, not even matching the real payout rates. It's even mentioned in the terms that this is virtual.

[alani123]

Here's a quote for refrence:

Can we get some some information on if and how the hashlet has affected trademybit? This would be interesting.

Hasn't affected TMB at all, we're not getting any hash from them.

And another one:

I own/operate Multipool.us.  If someone from GAW miners can give me your username(s) on the pool, I can verify your hashrate.  Or, you can set up a "handle" via the account page and it will appear rather than your User ID under the top hashrates for each coin (assuming you are within the top 15, which should be easily within your capabilities.)

For the record, I have not been contacted (to my knowledge) by anyone at GAW miners about setting up an account, IP whitelisting what would most likely be a massive number of workers, etc.

And another one:

There is zero truth to this whatsoever.  The "out of town" is family business (I'm still here, just much less active for the week).  I've never had any contact with ZenMiner (at least that I know of, it might have been a user contacting me affiliated with them, but if so, they didn't make it known they had an association with ZenMiner).  On another note, that droplet isn't one of our icons (we don't have any icons on WP), I think they just grabbed an image that would roughly describe "pool" and used it for us (and for them).

I've been watching a bit of the ZenMiner stuff (bought a 1MH for testing), and while I don't want to comment on it much, when pointing that 1MH from ZenMiner to WP, I can't find that 1MH showing up anywhere in the pool logs.  It might be too small and get lost in the noise (if someone has a 100MH+ account on ZenMiner, please contact me if you'd like to help test for a few hours).

[suchmoon]

I presume none of admins of these pools has ever identified these hashlets mining at their pools?

Nope. And when questions kept being asked GAW did this (also #4 in the OP):

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.msg8533761#msg8533761

[crazyivan]

So WTF is this then? How do they make money to pay off their users? I don't think this can be an ordinary ponzi, everybody knows info about owners and the company, if they scam so many people, they ll be in jail for millions of years. There must be some other agenda behind this.

[zdaz14]

So WTF is this then? How do they make money to pay off their users? I don't think this can be an ordinary ponzi, everybody knows info about owners and the company, if they scam so many people, they ll be in jail for millions of years. There must be some other agenda behind this.

I agree with you....


but have you heard of Mt Gox?

[AlphaD]

So WTF is this then? How do they make money to pay off their users? I don't think this can be an ordinary ponzi, everybody knows info about owners and the company, if they scam so many people, they ll be in jail for millions of years. There must be some other agenda behind this.

Have you heard of Bernie Madoff? He was very well known and respected in his community and field. He was active in charity also. He made lots of people lots of money. He was also a crook running one of the largest ponzis ever known.

Ponzi scams operate by being public. If people haven't heard of you then your ponzi isn't very good.