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6301  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Arbitrage: have you ever tried and how much have you earned so far? on: June 02, 2017, 09:51:47 AM
I do it occasionally, but it's not that it yields me an insane amount of profit. Point is that you should calculate the risks of seeing the arbitrage opportunity vanish due to someone else taking advantage of it, or that it shrinks naturally. Important to realize is that you need to take the following into consideration;

I only trade Bitcoin, so that's why I use that as an example.

0.5 - You need to have enough funds on the cheaper exchange to begin with.
1 - You cash out the coins you bought to your own wallet, which requires you to wait for that 1 confirmation.
2 - You deposit these coins to the exchange with the premium, which requires you to wait for 3 confirmations.
3 - Sell your coins to fiat, and have the money sent to your bank account.
4 - From your bank account you send these funds back to your main exchange.

It's not as easy as things might look. If I look at my highest ever arbitrage trade, then it should be in the range close to $1000. Profit looks nice, but it's quite a hassle at the same time, as it takes days before I have the funds back on my main exchange.
6302  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-06-01] A Bitcoin Beginner’s Guide to Surviving the BIP 148 UASF on: June 02, 2017, 08:11:05 AM
If you sell BTC then you will have less BTC so then you will end up with less of the new alt coin due to the split. 

My advice is to hold, wait for the split, this will maximize the number of alt coins you get, then later decide which coin is going to be "Bitcoin" and which one is going to be the alt, sell the alt, buy more "Bitcoin" with the money you get from selling the alt.

I agree. In case a chain split has become reality, and people start buying Bitcoin Core/Segwit, the exchange will be the real winner. People get sent the Core/Sewit coins, while the alt remains in the exchange's pockets. It will make exchanges the largest holders of the alt-Bitcoin, which will centralize that entire market. It's always the best to keep your coins offline, but just before things start to get serious, it's important to immediately put this in action. People not doing it are just stupid.
6303  Economy / Speculation / Re: Speculation about this month bitcoin price on: June 02, 2017, 07:49:28 AM
$4000.

No real proof why except that acceptance and various and increasingly more countries favorable policy changes are accelerating IMHO.

It will take a longer while before we see the $4000 level. I don't even think we'll see $3000 this month, as it is more likely for the price to move within a certain range, which I for now think is $2000-$2500. It's a wide range, but due to the lower overall support, it's not that uncommon for the price to show $100-$200 swings in just a single day. Problem with people here is that they constantly chase profits, and hope that the price increases further and further. It doesn't work like that, even not when it comes to Bitcoin. Let the market consolidate before rallying up again.
6304  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-06-01]OKCoin Allow 10-200 BTC Withdrawn to External Address Daily on: June 02, 2017, 07:30:58 AM
These regulations are just the tip of the iceberg. Didn't you guys notice? The Chinese government is slowly squeezing out Bitcoin trading, till the extent that it is not logical anymore for people to make use of exchanges. At some point a large portion of the coins that sit in Chinese hands, will circulate in the peer to peer market. Chinese exchanges will end up being a noob-hole like Yobit is now. There is no Bitcoin love there (from the government's side).
6305  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-31] Bitcoin, Stocks and the Fear of Missing Out on: May 31, 2017, 09:25:07 PM
I ditched stocks a long time ago. What's the point of holding and trading stocks, when I can hold and trade Bitcoin in a far more profitable way? I think that's something people (non Bitcoiners) with a decent capital start to realize too. I remember back in the days that I was generating like 10-20% (which in the non crypto world is quite a high return) in profit per year through occasionally buying and selling stocks. Not to brag or something, but the combined price increase of Bitcoin, plus the profits I made through trading the volatility, have landed me above 200% in profits for this year alone. Imagine how much profit others have made if they combined everything with various altcoins that exploded in value. Crypto is hot!
6306  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy? on: May 31, 2017, 09:08:50 PM
short term investment is also good for limited money, if a person have little amount of bitcoin he should  go for short term investment. because investment with little money for long term is just to wast your time. so for long term investment you must have good amount of money, so that after few years you can get a good profit from bitcoin.

I honestly don't believe that the hight of your capital determines what kind of investment you should follow. In case of short term trading, you will be depending on the fluctuations presented to you by the volatile nature of Bitcoin. Not everyone knows how to make use of these fluctuations since it requires a good level of market understanding. Long term investment is an easy option as that requires basically no effort at all, after the initial steps such as buying and securely storing your coins offline. Also important to mention, holding coins (amount doesn't matter) has never been a waste of time so far. Wink
6307  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy? on: May 31, 2017, 08:07:49 AM
Buying at current prices might be somewhat of a risk, but you just need to make sure you don't go all in. Always leave enough funds aside in case the price happens to tank.

It all depends on your targets. If you plan to take a short term position into Bitcoin, then you're definitely right, but if you are long term minded, then a sudden drop will not bother you. If you look back a few years, and specifically look into all the dumps that we have been through, they didn't have any impact on the long term price. In that regard, in the same way that dumps don't impact the long term price, they shouldn't impact people's long term targets. Firm holders are the real winners here.
6308  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [26-05-2017] Bitcoin Is Twice as Valuable as Gold Right Now on: May 31, 2017, 07:24:18 AM
the total value of all the gold ($8,943,770,600,000) might be more useful.
According to various sources, it says that the value of all the gold is more in the range of $7,613,000,000,000. Either way, it shows that Bitcoin is nothing more than a tiny dot, and from there articles like these don't hold any value. Especially not with such loud clickbait titles.


And Bitcoin is now 5% of Gold's market cap. Not bad.
Uhm, no. If Bitcoin would be on 5% of Gold's market cap, it would sit on $380,000,000,000 right now.
6309  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-30] Bitcoin could hit $100,000 in 10 years on: May 31, 2017, 07:09:24 AM
You can make any prediction now. No One will check it. I think Bitcoin could hit $1,000,000 in 10 years

But he correctly predicted the $2k price. But you are right, in 10 years no one will remember it, specially if he is wrong

There is a difference when it comes to predicting $2000 and something that sits in the range of $100,000. At least it's not an insane prediction like the one from PayPal's director Wences Cesares. He predicted that Bitcoin will reach $1,000,000 in 5 to 10 years. I think they just look at how the price has gone up in recent time, and likely just assume it will continue to increase like that with no interuptions. That's however not how the market works. Why can't they just focus on $10,000 first? That alone will already form a difficult target in the coming 5 years.
6310  Economy / Auctions / [Domain] Litecoin.wiki on: May 30, 2017, 07:18:55 PM
# Registrar : NameCheap
# Expiry : February 06, 2018
# Start bid : 0.01BTC
# Minimum bid increments : 0.001BTC
# Buy now : 0.10BTC
# Auction duration : 48 hours after last bid.
# WhoisGuard included.
# Escrow possible.


Only Bitcoin as payment is accepted.

I will always ask you to send the funds to : 12oWtmuwHipw9rC9BYUuMGWMWB3RxMsxUN

Only post in this thread if you are bidding.

By placing a bid you agree with :

# Winner of the auction pays first if you don't want to use escrow.
# Transaction must be completed in less than 24 hours.
# Private bidding is not accepted.
6311  Economy / Speculation / Re: When will BTC be at $5,000? on: May 30, 2017, 07:10:21 PM
The people in this forum might be in denial that we are indeed in a bubble. That explains why they will not answer to some of my questions. It is really hard to get a real discussion here.

If you want to know what a real bubble is, then look into Ethereum. Bitcoin's price was overbought, but not to the extent of it being a bubble. Bitcoin has been experiencing a massive amount of growth from all over the world, and that's all legit growth. Also take into consideration that there has been a burst of good news, all in a short period of time, wich has lead to the price being overbought by panic buyers and speculators/gamblers. Overbought is not the same as bubble. Wink
6312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does any bank accept Bitcoin? on: May 30, 2017, 08:58:10 AM
and trust me most of the bitcoin holders are willing to pay appropriate taxes on their earnings.
No. I am already being squeezed out by the government when it comes to my regular salary and fiat holdings. I am definitely not going to let that happen with my Bitcoin holdings too.

They just don't want governments to control their wealth.
Whether you pay tax over your earnings or not, the government can't do anything about your wealth since its stored outside the banking and governmental system. The only downside (aside from the obvious) of declaring your earnings is that that government knows that you have X amount of coins. Every bit of information is stored for plenty of years, and will be used against you in case you happen to miss out (for whatever reason) on declaring your earnings. Best is to avoid this by NOT declaring anything at all.
6313  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-30]Tally of losses from WannaCry cyber attack reaches $1 billion on: May 30, 2017, 08:09:23 AM
I am hoping that similar attacks can be prevented since this is actually not the first time it happened...
Such attacks can never be prevented, even not with top notch security. However, you can greatly minimize the chances of being a victim of ransomware by making use of up2date software within your entire network structure. High software cost shouldn't be an excuse with plenty of great working open source alternatives.

only if our security people can be step ahead of hackers and ranmsomware makers.
It's always the other way around. What pisses me off big time, is that mostly old security holes are being used to infect systems. How difficult is it for a multi billion company with the best software engineers, to not notice and fix these security holes themselves. Or they did know about them, but they just were not meant to be fixed (hint hint)...
6314  Economy / Speculation / Re: YORK's price prediction topic. on: May 29, 2017, 09:46:34 PM
Btc is king sure but the kingdom is wide Wink
You're never ever trading on altcoins? Only on BTC?

If you follow his posts, then you'll know that he is also invested in altcoins. Point with altcoins is that their use is mostly all speculative, with barely any real world use incentive. If you trade altcoins, it's like you're betting on the right outcome, but it just takes longer to find out whether you win or lose. With Bitcoin you at least know that the demand will continue to increase throughout the years. It clearly shows that there has been a tremendous growth as the whole industry around Bitcoin is growing, the number of transactions are increasing (obviously discarding the tons of rubbish spam transactions), global interest from high level investors, etc. That can't be said about altcoins, at least, by far not in the same way.
6315  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-24]Bitcoin Will Hit $1 Million in 5-10 Years, Says PayPal Director on: May 29, 2017, 09:23:48 PM
[...]it still does not give a valid support for 1m  Bitcoin for the next 10 years.

But what if your premises are wrong?

In case he's wrong, it will likely not hurt considering he keeps holding at least a small portion of his total stash till that time. Being conservative, or an extreme fantasy filled bull, in some cases it doesn't matter whether you're right or wrong, the main point is that you keep holding your coins for the far long term.
6316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1 BTC = 250x fees then you will remain with 0 BTC on: May 29, 2017, 02:24:43 PM
I don't know who to blame regarding that since no one is doing something wrong
Miners artificially increasing the recomended fee by choking the network with rubbish transactions, isn't wrong? Miners not allowing Segwit to activate, isn't wrong? BU gang looking to perform a hostile takeover, isn't wrong?

the only solution I can think of is raising block size, but that would result in a dilemma in it's own.
It shouldn't be a dilemma at all. But at this point even activating Segwit won't do much to counter the spamming problem. It will make spamming more cost intensive, but that doesn't mean the entities behind these attacks will back down. I am fairly sure that the high level of spam that the network experiences right now, isn't even half of what it will be after some time.
6317  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 29, 2017, 01:59:33 PM
It has zero impact on country level. Everything that happens, only positively impacts a very small number of people - it's all on an individual basis. It may be a new startup looking to hire a few stacked coders, exchanges looking to grow their support staff, etc. It's all very marginal at this point. People here in this thread should forget about signature campaigns and all other free ways of generating Bitcoin. It has nothing to do with employment/unemployment.
6318  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Looking for Bitcoin historical market data on: May 29, 2017, 01:11:44 PM
This site is providing historical market data from several exchanges, but it's limited to only Bitcoin and a few other crypto currencies.

https://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg60ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

Below symbol you can select the currency and exchange you are looking for, and next to that you can set the time frame that you are interested in. If you scroll all the way down, click on load raw data, and you're good to go. It shows information as opening/closing price for that day, high/low and volume. Unfortunately, there is no option to open this data in a text file or something - it's pure on site information.
6319  Other / Meta / Re: BAN ALL SIG CAMPAIGNS on: May 29, 2017, 12:54:58 PM
One compromise would be for sig campaign managers to implement stricter rules when it comes to posting.

Stricter rules aren't needed when the manager of a certain campaign just selects non spammers. Non spammers have a natural posting behavior, they don't show any signs of ignorance when it comes to the rules of this forum, they don't chain quote others, they don't post with half broken English, they are correcting others where needed, they write with decent sentence formatting, etc. Seriously, a quick look into someone's recent post history is enough to see what kind of poster it is. And mostly when spammers get banned/kicked from a campaign, they confirm that they only post to get paid by suddenly stopping with posting completely, or they stop posting as frequent as they used to do.
6320  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-28] Bitcoin Lending Service BTCJam is Shutting Down For Good on: May 29, 2017, 09:30:31 AM
An important thing you can do is to ban a user from taking out any more loans until they have paid back the loan that they already have out.
You missed my entire point. Bans aren't working as people (scammers) can just set up another fake account, and continue harming the community. It's btcjam's account verification that lacks big time as scammers can easily walk fake accounts through the verification process.

But what happens to the outstanding loans? And also, what is the incentive for people with outstanding loans to pay up?
They know that BTCJam is going to close down and their reputation there hardly matters.
Honest people will continue paying off their debt, but I am fairly sure that a large portion of the people there will just leave and never come back. Especially when you consider that the funds are either used to trade with, to gamble with, or to pay bills. In order to pay back, these people will have to purchase Bitcoin at current levels, and that's obviously not something a lot people look forward to. Easiest and cheapest option is to default since there is nothing to lose anymore.
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