So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to? Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that...
BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... Oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike. It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted, which was not "screaming scam". In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious. The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attackGo back to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153176.msg1626556#msg1626556This is starting to look like a circle... And this is you: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oppictures.com%2Fsingleimages%2F400%2FSTD55140WP_1_1.JPG&t=663&c=-RjbW82M4nnrUA) /ignore
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So, do you always let other persons stick their noses in your business without you asking them to? Because you're the one who might end out losing when that happens, not them. Think about that...
BTW, do you even realise that what you said above invalidates your excuse on the post you were replying to? Talk about being stupid and sticking foot in mouth... I help other people fight scams, other people help me fight scams. psy: "OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLINGPEOPLEARELOOKINGOUTFOREACHOTHER" BTW, oh really, RandomQ posted a "scream scam" exactly, word-for-word, what I would have posted, had I been the OP? Sorry to disappoint your apparent belief in magic, or that RandomQ and I share a brain, and communicate everything exactly alike. It took a lot of red flags to get me to the point of screaming what you quoted, which was not "screaming scam". In fact, I never said flat out that paysafecardbitcoin scammed anyone, nor would I have. I was planning to relate what I was told by people, and the fact that the totality of the circumstances made me suspicious, but not absolutely fucking certain that he was a scammer, otherwise I'd have just said scammer flat out. The closest I got was to "screaming scam" was saying "scammy clusterfuck" - this is no doubt a clusterfuck, with scammy indicators, otherwise nobody would have been able to spot the pattern of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-in-the-middle_attack
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You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM.
Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. Exactly. You didn't even had the balls to start the thread yourself, you had to ask someone else. He beat me to it by minutes, because he'd made the accusation in the first place to warn me. Stop sticking your foot in your mouth.
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You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM.
Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor and judicial system"? Dude, you're obviously not tailored to deal in Bitcoins if you scream scam every time something like this happens. Leave the business to the big boys, because you clearly still don't have the balls to be running such a business. Did you see my name in the left column in the OP's spot? Reply to the right person, please. If one of the big boys screams Man In The Middle scam, what the fuck am I supposed to do? "Meh"?
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You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM.
Why is that a problem? Do you have any disclaimer saying people not to do that? We have to put a disclaimer saying "don't do stuff that could easily put you behind bars, even with a non-corrupt prosecutor, judicial system, and criminal laws that may exist in most of the 'civilized' world"?
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paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back. You can send anything anywhere. where is my fault in this thing?I still dont fucking get it where is my fault? who i stealed money from? You had me send bitcoins to YOU, when YOU WERE NOT THE PERSON WHO PAID ME FOR THEM. FUCK.
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paysafecardbitcoin, YOU tell "the guy" to refund the woman, his "hacking services" client. And make sure he also reimburses her for the Western Union fee she paid to be a part of this 4-person scammy clusterfuck. I will be waiting for her confirmation that she has gotten her money back. You both have until end of banking hours in Romania TODAY to give the woman her money back. A PDF of this topic will be forwarded to politiacapitalei@b.politiaromana.ro - the Bucharest Municipal Police, if Monday rolls around and she still hasn't gotten her money back.
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Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this.
So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? A person needed money because was on his road in a trip and asked me to give him some money because he knew i have that kind of money and i said ok and did this trade. where is the scam thing regarding my username? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Reading this thread, it's a red flag explosion. To quote your most recent PM to me: Basically the money that was sent to you it was clean i didnt knew the story behind...i just helped someone for a small profit like you did with me. if you want we can do vice-versa and refund bitcoins, you refund the woman, and i get refunded by the guy paysafecardbitcoin: YOU provided me a WOMAN'S name, via PM here, as the sender of the Western Union. Do you know the difference between a man and a woman? What were the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name? Who is this woman in relation to you? Who is this guy you have spoken of, both in PM to me, and publicly on this thread? What is the BTC address that you have provided to me? Is the BTC address that you have provided to me yours? If it isn't yours, whose is it? Please list all parties to this clusterfuck, their relation to you, each other, and me. Yes i know the difference between a woman and a man. I dont know who the woman is, i just helped someone with money . I was supposed to get the money from the woman but it was too late here. If you don't know who the woman is, how did you PM me her name? Your refusal to repeat the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name, is a RED FLAG. The person i spoke about is a person that somehow i know it That's a garbage sentence. Try again. the btc adress is mine. and bitcoins supposed to be mine as i paid the guy that gave me the wu details(wich in any case its not a scammer -> ask the woman) We did. Red flag. the woman knew that the money was sent for bitcoin to help out the person i talk about, so i dont know where the scam is. She has not said that to me, how about you, RandomQ? Red flag. And if there is anything to be done i can refund the Bitcoins, you can refund the woman, and i have to get my money back from the person i spoke. So, working backwards... "the guy" needs to provide services to the woman<paysafecardbitcoin pays "the guy" minus "15$" commission(?)<paysafecardbitcoin receives BTC from TheButterZone<TheButterZone sends BTC to paysafecardbitcoin<TheButterZone receives WU<the woman sends WU to TheButterZone<the woman is given TheButterZone's name and city by "the guy"<"the guy" is given TheButterZone's name and city by paysafecardbitcoin<paysafecardbitcoin is given TheButterZone's name and city by TheButterZone<"the guy" asks for money from paysafecardbitcoin<"the guy" communicates to the woman that he will provide "hacking servces" to find her previous scammer RED. FLAG. EXPLOSION. For me its already a situation because my name is in mud. And yes i have a loan to pay this weekend. does this make me a scammer? Your username is "in mud". Where have you provided your real name? How many red flags do there need to be?
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Are you serious?If i was a hacker i would be rich ! A person needed cash money, and he said he can send WU if i help him with cash. and i dont need cash so i said to make a trade with a WU -> bitcoin. before starting acusing someone think twice. I`m here and i`ll proove this.
So you paid a person in Romania Cash to Send WU for you? A person needed money because was on his road in a trip and asked me to give him some money because he knew i have that kind of money and i said ok and did this trade. where is the scam thing regarding my username? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137288.0The Lady who Sent the WU to "TheButterZone" Was paying someone for "Hacking Services". This lady has fallen victim to scammers in the past and was an easy target for someone. I want to talk with the woman myself too! Reading this thread, it's a red flag explosion. To quote your most recent PM to me: Basically the money that was sent to you it was clean i didnt knew the story behind...i just helped someone for a small profit like you did with me. if you want we can do vice-versa and refund bitcoins, you refund the woman, and i get refunded by the guy paysafecardbitcoin: YOU provided me a WOMAN'S name, via PM here, as the sender of the Western Union. Do you know the difference between a man and a woman? What were the first 3 letters of the woman's first name, and last name? Who is this woman in relation to you? Who is this guy you have spoken of, both in PM to me, and publicly on this thread? What is the BTC address that you have provided to me? Is the BTC address that you have provided to me yours? If it isn't yours, whose is it? Please list all parties to this clusterfuck, their relation to you, each other, and me.
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Gathering dox to publish, if I don't get a confirmation from the WU sender that she 1) had her money returned (including reimbursement for WU sender fee) by 'paysafecardbitcoin' or 2) received the service she thought she was paying 'paysafecardbitcoin' for 3) achieved another satisfactory resolution, TBD by WU sender
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What the shit.
I went the extra mile and with information thebutterzone gave me, I found an email address for the sender. I emailed her to see the reason why she sent the WU payment I friend requested her on Facebook and sent a message to her Other folder (have to pay if you're not their friend already) asking the same.
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First WU (for me) exchange completed for >$100!
Thanks for your repeat business, OP!
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F181%2F813%2F1726009-shut_up_and_take_my_money_super.jpg&t=663&c=iSLLRCBAScAbOg) I'd put up the Bitcoin version but apparently they only want nasty fiat.
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Ahh, MassPay. Good question.
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piuk: Just PMd you about /pushtx not working properly. 1acf8d4e40951db06de6c995bc26e7dd6b03b641fea658893173ce6dfd4e7930 finally got broadcasted after 4 or so attempts, but no beep. One other transaction I did today with the /address/ page in a background tab didn't beep either.
/pushtx should be working fine but the websocket is still down. I need to setup a reverse proxy through a disposable vps. Ok, as I said in the PM, it was brainwallet's offline src (which uses bc.i/pushtx) that wasn't working - it finally worked when I copied the raw TX and pasted it in bc.i/pushtx actual. Maybe brainwallet's push is blocked by Cloudflare. Hopefully this won't be permanent, or Joric will have to recode brainwallet. Also, is websocket what makes the page beep on a new TX? I couldn't figure it out by looking at the page source. ETA: Beep's back (the Flash upgrade yesterday might have been the culprit, IDK)
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