Little more than a day left!

What about you..entering the pearly gates as one of gods greatest humans?  I may have something coming to me but it won't be for the way I've treated other humans in my lifetime.

Haha I have no power here nor a DT. I have zero tolerance for scammers. You deserve to be locked
Up not given pitty. Funny thing you never removed your neg Left or said sorry to me.

If I had a picture of your ugly ass I’d post that too. Extortion is a serious crime. You deserve to be seen for what you are.

Not in the version I have. Man, there is A LOT to clean up in the encyclopedia. Defcon also did the "FSociety" chips and that small bar with the .999 silver stamp which is false..right?

Ometeotl: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1503823.msg15128461#msg15128461

Wow looked like you guys had some fun with Defcon23 sales.  I just read how the "silver' bars he had made were also sold by his manufacturer and that any "limited edition" could have 2..3 or whatever number of exact copies. I remember buying them off ebay b4 my days here. It's so important I put it in a frame   It's also aging horribly. 


He also made the anonymous/fsociety chips and the others with the BTC logo and a number on the other side. But that has nothing to do w/auction so moving on..Good luck.  The one thing he did right was make these, glad I've got a set!

Digi any background on these coins, maker etc? ... (curious personally and so that I can add it to the wiki coin page).  Thx!!

Well all my replies are now gone ..but I guess it doesn’t truly matter.

Thx Krogo- preciate that man.

Edit - sorry mods I see what I did. I was a little worked up should have edited my threads not add new comments. Anywho this is done. Thx guys , everyone!

Man all I wanted to do was eat lunch right now..this is stupid.  OP yeahh. nope.  I'm not a worthless pos like you.  I've yet to even read a comment here but let me just say that first..now I will read and disprove your fake news.

Ahhhh. I didn’t understand it what so ever until Sky-mall just explained it.  My bad! Lol. Well that’s unfortunate, your trust rating should matter here DT no DT.  I shalt try and sign you up for jobs anymore Wheelz 

I'd say that it's about time then. Few people on this forum care more about watching out for others than that man. The forum is not better off with him being left off that list. 

Which makes it a massive red flag.  NOTHING makes sense about this company.  Did you see the CEO and how many business it says he's currently running?  lol unreal. 

Yeah that guy on etsy made it look like his coin was .999 solid silver when it's only plated.  Very shady with the way his page was set up.  When I emailed and asked about silver content and mintage (says 25..there's a bunch out there)..never heard back. I saw him finagle with his webpage over the next couple weeks...moving around the silver content description and number of coins left.  This was surely due to me having issued a charge back.  He would not respond at all to me, so I got to keep the coins and my money back.  One is in the Save the Bees auction.  Actually we've got a couple nice scammers in their now, Xboxthreefixme being the other. 

Yes..so the Sir Isaac Newton coin is required to be loaded with 1000 Infinitum coins https://infinitumcoin.com/site/coin-detail.  I just checked and looks like they've sold about 40ish of 999 possible coins.  Also I now noticed it states this coin costs $220 but will get bumped to $1,670 after the ICO.  Hmm, ok thats normal  

What makes a lot of sense is that their first 4 coins are called Infinitum Bitcoins, but with their ICO they state how Bitcoins decentralization is essentially the bad thing about Bitcoin...pick a side, which is it?!

They've also got notices on their main webpage saying due to Christmas and new years there could be a shipping delay.  It it Nov/Dec again already?

This is what I do not understand about this forum...how in the hell is that the case?!  It doesn't make sense to me that a legendary member who's also a coin maker with nothing but positive trust and a lot of it ..not hold significant weight?!  I mean I don't trust ya all that much Wheelz, but everyone else sure seems to! 

Unfortunately we've got yet another scam coin maker on our hands.

Oh and this scum bag is next : https://www.etsy.com/listing/575857935/limited-edition-silver-bitcoin?ref=hp_rv

So here's an examples of what my coins looked like



Infinitum Bitcoins is part of Sandcastles Investment Group Limited -https://www.infinitumbitcoins.com/contact-us.html

Address
Infinitum Bitcoins
c/o Sandcastles Investment Group Limited
Geneva Place
Waterfront Drive
Tortola, Road Town
British Virgin Islands


Founder and CEO's LinkedIn page-  https://www.linkedin.com/in/zuber-mohsan-5536b612/  

I don't see anywhere on the CEO's LinkedIn page where it speaks to them being based out of the British V.I.  Here is an article that discusses why companies are often set up to be held in the British V.I. and physically located elsewhere (which raises more red flags)  http://www.businessinsider.com/british-virgin-islands-offshore-haven-where-trillions-are-hidden-2017-6

I also don't see any other employees of Infinitum on LinkedIn, please correct me if I'm wrong.

These guys are barely advertising and all web pages are extremely vague...something certainly feels very off here.  

I just wanted to get everyone's opinion on this.  I've heard very little good about this coin maker from anyone here, and have heard plenty of negative things.  I am in the process of putting a lot more information together but this is a start- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2597881.msg34156552#msg34156552

Knowledge is power- I'd appreciate hearing about your experiences good or bad.  

At least you admit all you truly care about is #1.  Hopefully others can see why your opinions hold zero value.

I am currently putting together a report on this company as I now believe it to be a scam, on some sort of level.  I personally purchased 4 coins from Infinitum and am in the process of returning/refund (I paid with a CC, not BTC..which means I could have done a chargeback..which I had to threaten to do when they would not respond to emails).  The coins are some of the most poorly minted coins I've ever bought form a company that claims to be a new mint serious about making coins going forward.  A friend whom is one of, if not the highest trusted member here on the forum, was scammed by Infinitum- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=525376 .

There is so much more.  The Encyclopedia for Physical Bitcoins and Crypto-Currencies has this company listed out of the British Virgin Islands, but I just returned my coins to: Attention :
Mr Ali
TGD limited
Office 205
Building AA1
Mazaya business avenue
Jumeriah lake towers
Dubai
United Arab Emirates

Phone number 0504516476

I originally asked for a partial refund.  Of the 4 coins 1 was not so bad minting wise, but has a considerable amount of toning which they claimed to be "natural".  I'm a numismatist and understand this concept and it's clear to me they are not serious about the way they are storing their coins ( which means they likely don't care about the quality of the coins at all in reality).  I decided to return all 4 coins however when they claimed that during a partial refund they could only give back part of what I paid for that portion..claiming that Paypal keeps funds in return situations. I have been using ebay and paypal since it opened and this is 100% false.  They will also ask you to pay for return shipping if you don't want to exchange your poor condition coins for

On their websites (https://infinitumcoin.com/site/about-us) About Us page, they state "Founded in 2015 Infinitum had a vision to merge the digital world with the physical world. Our range of physical bitcoins have been collected since their launch in 2015 and have seen generous increases in their resale value".  Their coins are far from sold out.  As an avid physical crypto-coin collector I can promise you their coins have not "seen generous increases in their resale value" as no one would pay more for a coin that is still for sale at base cost (outside the possibility of one or two isolated events, like an ebay sale where buyer did zero research).  I've never once seen anyone try and resell their coins on here, ebay or anywhere else.  

Here: https://www.infinitumbitcoins.com/shipping-and-refund-policy.html they conviently fail to mention that regardless of how poorly your coins arrive, if you want to exchange them or return them you're on the hook for shipping.  Now i'ts your fault if you don't ask about this up front, but it's clearly left off the Shipping, Canceling and Returns policy page so that you will not see it and potentially think twice about making that purchase.  A shady business practice.

I didn't care about researching what I thought sounded like a silly ICO (like 99% of them ) because I was simply looking to purchase a physical coin.  But now that I have started to do the research [white paper: https://infinitumcoin.com/], it's pretty clear to me this project has no legs what so ever.  It makes no sense and is positioning itself as a better Bitcoin.  They are essentially admitting they believe in centralization, but saying they are "like" bitcoin..which is not at all like bitcoin and exactly what it stands against. The white paper in comparison to the level of money they had hoped to raise, and for the purpose of what for (I dont really fully know at this point but..physical coins, debit cards, a centralized cryptocurrency?) makes little practical sense.  The white paper is laughable.  It provides very little to no detail about the team, how they plan to be different, how their blockchain is established and different than bitcoin, and they fail to detail whether they have qualified the business as a money transmitter and whether or not they have registered at federal levels or obtained those licenses.  

A website has detailed a number of some of these glaring Red Flags here: https://concourseq.io/Q/Infinitum%20Coin

I will continue to update this post as I can find time. I will also reach out to them for answers as well as update whether my coins returned actually receive a full refund. (minus shipping-which as a coin collector none of the companies I purchase from charge to return coins if damaged upon arrival -which is to me a great way to get run out of business quickly when you're producing terrible quality items) I've got more researching to do(and more shady info to add) but there was obviously way too many red flags to not bring this to everyone's attention right now.  Cryptocurrency is a cesspool for scams just like it was in the early days of the stock market.  It's simply very easy to scam people in many different ways.  Until others educate themselves/learn how to not fall victim it will continue. It's important we all keep sharing info so we can help prevent others from falling victim.  I highly recommend avoiding this "company" until they can explain all of this to us.

My sister is a photographer and I keep asking her to teach me..nothing so far. That second picture could not have possibly been taken with a phone right?