OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards". Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made. For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work. Not that I want to argue ,but the avalon 4.1 is the best at this ----- this will do 800gh at 425 watts really quiet but it is costly and hard to find plus it needs a rasp pi next is the s-3 ---- this will do 400gh at 300-320 watts and with 1 fan mod on the pull end is pretty quiet. if you are handy with resistor solder this can be made to to do 300 gh at 180 watts. Since you need a space heater either of the two above will be better then just spending the money on heat with no hash. I like the s-3 better since it is cheaper then the avalon 4.1 I would agree on Avalon 4.1 they are amazing machines. They pack a punch at a very very quiet sound. People really need to hear them in person to believe it. You did hit the nail on the head is price. It is what stopped many from getting an Avalon 4.1 new or used. They just cost more. But the S5 and SP gear I don't see ever reaching the Avalon 4.1 level. |
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Sir to make sure that the website still paying.... try go to here www . allhyipmonitors . com
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www.CloudMining.website is already reviewed by multiple cloud mining montiors which confirm its ROI. If you think, it needs to be reviewed by allhyipmonitors, feel free to submit it to them with your own referral link. You are still here?!?! Please.. just sh*t up. This service is well known scam! They are still here. At least they have stopped posting that graph that makes it appear everyone ROI's. Since you posted again I would still like to know what is your data center like? What machines are you using? Can you tell us some of the hardware facts of what your service uses? |
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Will bitcoin eventually rise or it will fail and reach a value of zero dollars?
There is no chance of lowering of prices. but if you are a smart investor, then you should keep an eye on the fluctuation of prices. I think bitcoin will not reach a zero dollar for a couple next years, but no one know the future. Just follow the trend and do technical analysis is the best way to predict bitcoin price. I don't think it will reach zero dollars ever at this point. It is pretty much the "gold" of digital currency. So far there is not another that is going take over. Even if one takes over one day I think BTC would always be a alt coin in worse case. We are still very early with with digital currency so anything could happen I guess. |
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As long as I could make $10 to $15 a week, I'm good with that. I'm waiting to reach full member (which is going to be real soon)  The good news is this is a very doable goal. Full member is a nice jump with most campaigns. I highly suggest anyone wanting to earn a little BTC raise an account (do not just buy) to full member and find a good sig campaign. And I would not mess with faucets or some of the micro earnings. |
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I wonder if just selling one board and you have to make your own enclosure and cool it your self would be viable.
Strapping a board to some wood and pointing fans at it is quite easy for anyone. Would reduce the cost massively for shipping and production as bitmain would only have to ship boards.
They tend to like to sell products that are fully built. Some have bought chips for projects. That might be your best bet if your wanting a board to do all this stuff DIY. I don't see them selling boards where you make your own enclosures though. I see them focusing on finished products for the most part. They also make the most money this way. |
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Also you might show pictures of the "weld screws"   Are you saying you recently bought it you said "The s4 + Bitmain buy direct , but I get hit all the bases and holding up cards because loose bolts were broken". If those needed welded it would take one heck of a hit. I'm confused if it's something you have had or a new miner to you? These s4 + I buy direct from Bitmain is more , I give eight coupons of S7 in this forum here . The fault was the safest shipping company . I did not think they sold these in a while on main site. If you truly just got from bitmain I would contact them for warranty. But I'm guessing you have had them and there is a miss communication. I think there might be a language barrier. Are you saying you just received this miner from bitmain? Or saying you have been running it a while? |
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.
I think the hardest part is letting air in and out. This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air. OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements. The miners chances are will heat up. And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think. You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors. I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside. Water can do a lot of damage. There won't be any kind of elements getting inside, discard this, as there will be a roof over the "box" whit roof. The Air is dry so to carry mositure it wont be that easy. Is it snow or ice by miner? I'm guessing ice with temp but snow still could fall I'm guessing. I just think if air is able to get in possibly some bad elements could to. If snow or ice is pushing against intake when it snows and it melts seems possible for it to come inside of the box. I just have not seen anyone done this at these temps before. And I could be wrong, just don't see to many miners outside, and specifically at this temp. |
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As far as the project you say taking time to create the plan. Is it really that it is still being worked on or that it has not received backing? It sounds like you have a plan just has not received backing. And I could be wrong as not a Venezuela expert. I'm just asking questions  . As mentioned back in the thread (and i think, you were the one who said it  ) it takes money to make money. I'm putting my money where my mouth is and building a miner-oriented house on a piece of land my family owns, to test some ideas first. Nothing too big, just a test for a 36Kw place. If it goes well, i've already put my eyes over a small real-state to create something bigger for me and some friedns, to test the vertical condo idea, and if it goes well, big condo it is. Also, don't be afraid of asking questions, our country is a largely unknown gem to most of the bitcoin mining world. EDIT: And backing wise, there are several people already interested, but i haven't been able to help them out because their requirements are FAR more complex than my original idea (go figure). I just want to help the little guy that wants to run a profitable mine but doesn't has a multi petahash farm already, not just the big guys. Mostly, a lot like the sidehack mentality of not pandering to the big fat wallets, but instead to the guys/gals that loved to mine but can't do it because their electricity service is crazy costly. I did ask some questions but I cannot take credit for saying takes money to make money (at least not in this thread). I guess I don't understand you are putting down money for a structure of some-sorts and land. Why not just upgrade current space if it works out and have one bigger space actually built with cooling and BTC in mind? |
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OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards". Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made. For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work. I would not say any will work. Some if you put it in room the sound will make it not very enjoyable. I think some miners will be good for heating rooms. Others would require mods to be suitable, and some would never be quiet enough in my mind. I'm not sure if I will even use the heat myself or if I will just leave in my mining area and enjoy them being out there come winter. Still deciding. |
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Hopefully they eventually sell the general public some bigger miners.
Why? There's absurd amounts of hashpower out there now, burning power like crazy, why is the mantra always MOAR MOAR MOAR? As we could use more selling big miners to public. A lot of miners will not ever make it to general public, notice that before you jump on it. I would like it not just being bitmain supplying home miners. One company having all control is not a good thing. |
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well blockchain shows https://blockchain.info/blocks375530 (Main Chain) 2015-09-22 00:02:52 375608 (Main Chain) 2015-09-22 10:46:20 this is 79 blocks in 10 hours and 46 min for the day 'norm' is 65 so 79/65 x 144 = 175 which would mean bitmaintech has put some more online after shipping a lot off line https://blockchain.info/blocks/AntPool13 today on pace for 30 8 Mon --------- really low 17 Sun ---------- low It appears bitwisdom is going up slowly I think soon a lot will receive S7's and we will see a jump as they are plugged in. I think this should happen anytime. I do find it interesting bitmain already put more online. I wonder if these are batch 2 or hashnest, or even a big buyer. I wish BTC was more transparent. |
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I was looking at could not find it. What NM chip is this?
Was curious with it showing more efficient then S7. Would really like to know more about the chip itself.
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Just got an update on my shipping that was to be dilivered on Wednesday. Here is the update:
09/22/2015 8:22 A.M. A valid ID # (tax, personal, deferment) required for clearance is missing. We're working to obtain this information.
09/22/2015 8:21 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.
I hope this is not going to be a delay.
That does not sound good. I would say it's delayed and sounds like it has not left China yet? Does not sound good but hard to say. Sounds like must be his country since it shows Wednesday as delivery date. But if it got that message and has not left China yet no that would not be good, as likely a longer fix. |
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I only have 3 Compaq stick miners. I have 1 stick that throws a lot more errors than the other 2. It doesn't matter if I run them direct from the PC in a hub or if I run the one unit solo, it still throws a lot of errors. I've tried different computers and 2 different hubs and I'm running BFGMIner with: bfgminer.exe -o stratum+tcp://solo.ckpool.org:3333 -u 1JiWuyX94wrCr7JhkAn7x5qNMCEef1KhqX.bmoscatosticks -p x -S rockminer:all --set rockminer:clock=280 --set compac:clock=x0b83 --api-listen --api-allow W:10.0.0/24  The compac's look pretty good look at the percentage it is not big. If you compare to the U3 it appears is on with it the U3 is most of your errors. But .04 percent should not considered "a lot more". You should be good. |
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Guys dear,please help me.I bought two antminer u3 and wanted to connect them to the laptop but nothing happened.Managed to connect only one of u3,two u3 did not want to work in.I believe that the problem lies in the fact that in the bat file I have written only one device.I don't understand and don't know how to register two devices.may need to add something in the config,but I don slightest and have no idea how to do it.help tell me what to do.if you can give an example of a bat file or config.the hope is only for the your help.thanks for earlier.
What version of CGminer are you using? Also you telling it the one device and not other two? That would for sure cause it. Try without picking specific device. As long as you have only U3's connected it will work fine. If you have other miners yes it will be harder. I use cgminer 4.8.0 .when connected one device then everything works fine.when two devices are attached nothing happens.production will not start.I saw somewhere that in order to connect two or more miners need to use the command -d ,but how to use it?where to write ?I do not understand and do not represent.   Go ahead and try a newer verision 4.9.2 is what I'm using. I'm not aware of a reason to keep it old with the U3's. Remove the -d and it should find all U3's. If not try unplugging power and usb from all miners and see if you and replug them (in case they hit that zombie mode). I downloaded cgminer 4.9.2 but I do not understand how to start.he asks to register the url.what is a url?? I'm sorry I do not understand how to use cgminer.I know how to run cgminer only through .bat file.I also put in .bat cgminer.exe --bmsc-options 115200:0.6 -o stratum+tcp://thecoin.pw:3540 -xxxxxxx -p xxxxx --bmsc-voltage 0800 --bmsc-freq 1286 .when you run .bat file to open cgminer window for a split second and closes.nothing else happens.help me please.what am I doing wrong. I don't know anything in cgminer. stratum+tcp://thecoin.pw:3540 ck-'s cgminer does not use --bmsc for the U3's, it's --au3-freq 225 <225 is default, you can use up to 250> --au3-volt 775 <775 is default, use from 725 - 850, what ever gives you best hash at your freq>. thank you.now I know where to set the frequency and the voltage in cgminer 4.9.2 look what .bat file I get cgminer -o stratum+tcp://thecoin.pw:3540 -u xxx -p xxx -o stratum+tcp://thecoin.pw:3541 -u xxx -p xxx --au3-freq 250 --au3-volt 800 .but the question remains open what else should I add in there to work simultaneously two antminer u3 It should detect them both automatically. Just don't select them with that parameter and it looks for them. I believe that I what I did. If it does not detect them then I would try to select them. |
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Just curious about this: What's to stop the person who put the private key on the piece of paper from keeping a copy of the private key?
You have to trust the person that makes the coin. That is why DIY coins have little resale value. Unless they are not put together. I have a silver wallet never used as I wanted to keep it new. I think a lot of DIY are not used and put in safe keeping. But I will admit even on well known ones I have always been afraid of having to trust a 3rd party who puts coins together. I don't think we have seen any problems on it, just scares me personally. |
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As the others have indicated, cloud mining is so far away from being profitable that it's foolish to try it. The only people who will make money are the ones selling them
Not really .. you looks like newbie, so you are potential victim. many people are looking for nice offers around and fast money making options. Maybe not this time.. but next time someone will catch you and than you will stay on another site of mirror.. Don't be so critic for victims.. some day, they can be richer in experience then you and you will need help from them.. Yes before investing into cloud mining, you must double check the trust worthy of provider and ROI and many more possible things. Because some people run ponzi in the name of cloud mining. Like I have said before one of my favorite way to tell is ask about equipment. Most ponzi's do not have equipment so they normally say nothing or say they can't say for some reason. If I would have asked more on this it would have saved me a little on hashlets (I to can be fooled, I am not all knowing) So much of it comes down to common sense. A lot of these ponzi's would not have been as bad if people did not let greed get ahold of them. Any place that guarantees ROI, or a timeline of ROI is 99.9 percent a ponzi. A real cloud mining cannot guarantee ROI. |
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Temp or permaban? If temp just wait it out in most cases.
The really should be doing this them self if permanent. Just make sure they don't ban evade is my biggest advice.
Banning is so vague, my friend does not know if the ban is temp or perm or what his options are. Seeing as some use these accounts for business ventures, is there no one else there that can help or does the fate of all banned accounts rest on 1 guy who , we are being told is too busy to reply within 2 or 3 days.  Update:
Thanks theymos for all of your Help.Honestly I would not bug the admin's on it. I think more you bug them less chance they will want to help. Just they have many things to do and if you harasses them to do this it really does not help. I stick with my advice though on being careful on ban evasion. If your friend was banned on one account and uses any other account out of meta he is ban evading. So make sure your friend is not logging into the other accounts posting out of meta or sending pm's etc. |
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As long as you don't get wet on your machines it sounds like a good idea. -20 would be too much, dunno if any electronic devicewould work at that temperature.
I think the hardest part is letting air in and out. This is needed to run miners an intake and exhaust of air. OP is talking about a roof and 2 sides I believe this leaves 2 sides open to the elements. The miners chances are will heat up. And when they do you will be running with water/ice inside i think. You cannot make air tight so it leaves it to elements of outdoors. I still highly suggest moving inside with miners and send exhaust outside. Water can do a lot of damage. |
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So you are buying property to put miners in? Seems like two different investments one is bitcoin other is land/building ownership.
How can you guarantee property does not lose value?
Historically, Venezuela has not lost land value in a VERY long time on our capital... like 100+ years. In fact, Sq. M costs on the capital (on a pretty bad slum) are 2x montly minimum wage. Pretty hefty. Besides, the datacenter quality of our capital (being the best spot for a latin-american endeavor with european or US targets) is very high, with the regional IBM and Procter&Gamble datacenter residing here. Really, it's a no brainer: cheap electricity, highly valuated real-state == long-term profit for bitcoin mining. I just would not promise a guarantee building/land is worth more when being sold. US we once thought housing was impossible to loose and we had a bubble ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_housing_bubble ). It is possible to loose money. As far as the project you say taking time to create the plan. Is it really that it is still being worked on or that it has not received backing? It sounds like you have a plan just has not received backing. And I could be wrong as not a Venezuela expert. I'm just asking questions . |
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