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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: friendly and profitable board for beginners, have you realized it? on: June 08, 2022, 01:11:34 PM
The point is that there are predictions of every kinds on the forum and after all, it's up to you to pick a side and decide by yourself which result makes more sense. Therefore, only after the game is played you will know if you were right or wrong. I've seen it regards almost every games and matches being discussed here. There isn't anything like 'safe gambling' where you follow someone's guesses and make profit on long run. I believe if such things were possible, everyone would be profiting from their bets right now and casinos would have gone bankrupt already.

The problem is that even after the game is played, you can't tell who was right and who was wrong. For example, the team won, the odds for win of which were 5. This does not mean that everyone who bet on the favorite was wrong - just an outsider won in a separate game, but if there were many games between these teams, the favorite would win more often, and the outsider would very rarely (less than once in 5 attempts) .
642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: June 08, 2022, 12:52:55 PM
It was amazing but frustrating to watch the first half (second half I was having my eyes elsewhere so couldn't really tell if they improved) but this match was so important to them and they played like they were not really hungry (I even felt UAE were more desperate).

Peru's pretty good, mind you, they've been solid players in the Concacaf games -- both will want to continue their WC final appearance but yeah, Aussie's got the weight of history behind them, appearing in every edition I've ever watched except the first (1998, where they lost the playoff to Iran) Wink

Who else thinks a Kiwi-Aussie acca is worth the money?

I think so. I'm surprised that Australia has a 4.6 odds of winning and a 2.9 overall odds of qualifying. Despite the fact that Peru is a strong team, these are too pessimistic estimates for Australia. I think that in such circumstances betting on Australia would be a logical move because winning looks more likely than the bookmakers show us.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: June 08, 2022, 12:06:20 PM
Germany deserved to win that match because the dominated the match. But England's performance improved, at least they were a little bit better than the way they played against Hungary. The draw is a fair result for the three lions but they are still at bottom of  Group A3 table with one point from two games. I don't even think that Nico Schlotterbeck’s slight trip on Harry was a penalty but the VAR confirmed it was. Harry Kane slotted the spot and cancelled out Jonas Hofmann's 50th minute strike. Gareth Southgate's side needs to improve fast if they would make an impact in the world cup.

I would say that the result of the game is fair, because despite Germany's playing advantage, they managed to score only one goal, usually this is not enough to comfortably end the game and not be afraid that the opponent will win back. Now, thanks to this result, the teams of England and Germany still do not have a single victory in the group, and the Italian team is in the first place. In future games it will suit Italy enough draws against direct competitors to defend their first place.
644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: June 08, 2022, 11:51:20 AM
Only after the game, you will start to question what happened. If it's fixed or not. But during a game especially at the start of it, there's no way you can tell if they are like puppets being controlled and already knew the outcome of it.
I think this kind of fixed game mostly happened in single-player sports like boxing. You may have seen some clips where a boxer is just trying to survive the match for a minimum of 2 rounds then will be knocked down with a single jab, not even a haymaker.  Grin

I have heard about cases where fixed matches were in football, but not all players were involved, but only a few. But you're right, for obvious reasons, match-fixing is more relevant to individual sports. I would like to know what percentage of incredible comebacks and other unexpected twists in games are rigged, because in fact, even after the game it is difficult to say the reason for what happened.
645  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Bitcasino.io 💜 — BTC Predictor June 🎯 Take a guess & WIN 🎁 on: June 07, 2022, 05:15:22 PM
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646  Other / Archival / Re: [BTC] Лотереи, Конкурсы, Раздачи... on: June 07, 2022, 05:10:40 PM
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647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Profitable are Gambling Bots? on: June 07, 2022, 02:02:49 PM
Given that the bot can analyze a huge number of bets very quickly and place bets on several markets at once, it can be profitable. But I have not seen such bots in the public domain.

Most people that bets on arbitrage bets normally would place the bets manually by searching through odds comparison website. If bots that automatically place an arbitrage bets does exist, it will never be publicly shared as I dont see why people would share such a money making bot

Yes, it's an obvious problem that no one is selling the goose that lays the golden eggs. On the other hand, not everyone has enough money and accounts to profit from such a bot and there are many people who like to show off. It can be assumed that if such bots existed, then they would be at least somehow accessible.

I am sure that the casino always wins whether you use a bot or not.

That's what I was thinking. If a casino has an HE of 3%, no matter what the bot does, you're going to lose 3% in the long run. The only sense I see is to automate the process to reach certain wagering requirements that give you cashback but as to beat the house no way. The casinos are probably very happy with the bots because they speed up the process and people bet more.

That's right, that's why all casinos offer the option of automatic gambling plus there are many settings for dice in order to run different strategies.
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: June 07, 2022, 01:51:19 PM
This fight turned out to be too boring due to the tactics of Kambosos, who hoped for the whole fight on pressure, but Haney easily depart it and looked much more skillful in boxing. The revanche could have been different if Kambosos had prepared a different tactic, but now hardly anyone wants to see it.
I agree with you about other fights, but unfortunately Loma is still in the war and it is not known when he will be able to return to boxing.
I thought I'm the only one who felt the boredom while watching those 2 boxers fighting.
I think that's what you can expect from a boxer who is more of a defensive one and a counter puncher. The audiences are also silent as well because nothing really is happening between the two.

No need for rematch for this one because it's boring (for me) and it would be better if Haney will fight another opponent. Maybe let's move on with the boring fight and wait for the Inoue-Donaire match.

It was smart boxing on Haney's part, but since Kambosos couldn't change his straightforward tactics throughout the fight or succeed with the tactics he had originally chosen, the fight really turned out to be boring. Plus, if we take into account the expectations from this fight (two boxers without defeats) and compare with the result, then of course this is a complete failure in terms of show.
649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet on: June 07, 2022, 12:57:20 PM
Given the history of the OP's messages, it can be assumed that he either invents a lot or has big problems with gambling addiction - also because he was a successful better in the past. One way or another, borrowing money to bet on a supposedly fixed game, in my opinion, is the most unprofitable decision. By the way, it is possible that the one who gave him information about the upcoming game (allegedly fixed) just deceived him.
650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Profitable are Gambling Bots? on: June 06, 2022, 09:10:31 PM
Just as there are crypto trading bots, there are also gambling bots. According to Wikipedia, Gambling bots are software which use a gambling website's Application programming interface (API) to speed up the process of placing bets based upon a gambling system or betting strategy to decide which bets to place. In short, they are AI powered bots that do the betting for you. Aside form the risk of having your casino account closed, these bots are not ideal for all types of games. There are several reasons people give for using bots. From making betting easier, being able to use multiple bots at once, to being highly able to accurate predictions about a game’s outcome that could in turn increase the individual's chances of wining.

Have you ever tried to use the autobet on some gambling websites or have you successfully used third-party bot scripts for betting on sites where it is allowed? Did the bots win?

I am sure that the casino always wins whether you use a bot or not. And I've never used them (other than auto-betting in dice).
Their only real use is in betting where arbitrage opportunities sometimes arise. Given that the bot can analyze a huge number of bets very quickly and place bets on several markets at once, it can be profitable. But I have not seen such bots in the public domain.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? on: June 06, 2022, 08:35:55 PM
There are some events that are so blatant that you can detect cheating, but they will tend to be low level games and possibly even involve both sides trying to play a particular way (e.g. very badly). Besides that it can be very difficult to definitively prove that cheating is taking place unless you're able to investigate the paper trail or catch the match fixers proposing it directly. The bookmakers will be able to see unusual betting behavior and possibly take action, but unless they have proof it is unlikely they'll do much except ban the person from placing any more bets or cap them at such a low level as to make it pointless. As it could effectively end someones career if detected or suspected, the players involved are going to want substantial sums upfront, which means the cheat has to pay off quite big to make it worthwhile.

Bookmakers, if they suspect the game of dishonesty, simply cancel bets on this event - they simply return the money. They don't have to prove anything, go to court, etc. these are the rules of the betting business, and by the way, they don't even have to watch the game to analyze it for fraud - if they see that an unusual number of bets are being placed on this event, this is enough justification for them to take action.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread on: June 06, 2022, 08:25:18 PM
It is the 66th minute of the match. France leads 1:0 with Adrien Rabiot on the scoreboard. Croatia is still trying. They are pressing forward. This is a good chance for them to change the momentum in the game. They need to score soon. Modric has an attempt on goal but Maignan makes a save.

It is strange that both top strikers Benzema and Mbappe are sitting on the bench. Grinzman was given a chance to prove himself and was released on the field in the 62nd minute, given how he played the season, it was in his interest to take advantage of this chance. Pretty tense game, but all the same it is felt that all the participants in the game are more likely to think about preparing for the World Cup than about this tournament.
653  Other / Archival / Re: [BTC] Лотереи, Конкурсы, Раздачи... on: June 06, 2022, 05:01:59 PM
Древнюю лотерею, которую выиграл Boristhecat, решили переиграть, путем определения нового победителя.

OP написал, что посылка пришла к нему обратно:

Original winner was unable to receive the note and it was shipped back to me.
Will spin the blockchain again to pick a new winner!! Cheesy
Block #739570 will determine this.

Boristhecat, можешь прокомментировать, что произошло или для тебя это тоже сюрприз?

Я этот вопрос уже в личке обсудил с minerjones, поэтому не сюрприз.
Суть в том, что наша любимая Почта России не присылала мне никаких оповещений о прибытии пакета. Не знаю приходил ли он вообще в мое отделение или хранился на распределительном центре, а потом по истечении срока как "невостребованный" уехал обратно, но факт в том что уехал, а я о факте прибытия даже не знал (трекинг был, но урезанный - отслеживалась только отправка и факт получения).
Я написал minerjones свои предположения о проблеме (почта) и отказался от дальнейшим попыток получения приза, решив довольствоваться моральной победой )
654  Local / Новички / Re: Комиссия за транзакцию в Ethereum on: June 06, 2022, 09:57:44 AM
Тоже в твиттере видел как эфиро-максималисты типа @sassal0x пишут, что-то типа "похоже нам больше не нужны L2" ссылаясь на статистику эфира, но они производят впечатление людей которые совершенно оторваны от реальности -skip-

Интересно, как можно до такого додуматься, если есть простейший критерий нужны L2 или не нужны: (пропускная способность ETH) - (количество транзакций в L1 + L2). Если величина положительная то не нужны, если отрицательная, то нужны. Этот критерий с огромным запасом (в разы) показывает что L2 нужны.
655  Local / Oбcyждeниe Bitcoin / Re: ЦБ РФ защитит россиян от Биткоина on: June 06, 2022, 09:36:51 AM
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Обычным гражданам будет сложно объяснить почему биткоин для них запрещен, но запрещать его даже не потребуется. CBDC банально удобнее для рядового пользователя и переход на крипторубль будет менее болезненный, чем на крипту. Достаточно скачать обновление для Сбербанк Онлайн и готово - вы пользователь крипты, причем не простой крипты, а выпущенной самим ЦБ РФ, который заботится о финансовом благополучии граждан.

Как только дойдет до практики, теоретическая идиллия быстро закончится. В любой точке соприкосновения с реальностью крипторубль будет "ломаться". Например, конвертируемость - если ее не будет, то это будет фантик. Если она будет, то как ЦБ реализует (а потом объяснит пользователям) спред в >10 рублей (или сколько там сейчас)? А если спред будет как в нормальных парах, то такой инструмент будет работать против интересов которые отстаивает ЦБ т.е. придется вводить другие механизмы (костыли) для всей этой конструкции.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] George Kambosos vs Devin Haney - Undisputed Lightweight Title - June 5 on: June 05, 2022, 02:27:19 PM
I felt like I was watching Rigondeaux tonight. One of the most boring fights I've seen in a while. A rematch would be pointless and would only hold up potential big fights that we have been wanting to see for a long time. It's time for Haney, Davis, Shakur and Loma to start facing each other.

This fight turned out to be too boring due to the tactics of Kambosos, who hoped for the whole fight on pressure, but Haney easily depart it and looked much more skillful in boxing. The revanche could have been different if Kambosos had prepared a different tactic, but now hardly anyone wants to see it.
I agree with you about other fights, but unfortunately Loma is still in the war and it is not known when he will be able to return to boxing.
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: taking out a loan for a sports bet on: June 05, 2022, 01:43:35 PM
recently I've come across some information for an upcoming soccer match and I'd like to place a big bet of 50-100k, how easy would it be for me to take out a loan and how long would it take? has anyone else done something like this?

feel free to message me or comment below  Smiley

There is nothing more stupid than borrowing, even if only to bet on match-fixing. Firstly, you cannot be sure of the accuracy of your information, secondly, even a match-fixing may, for various reasons, end with an unexpected result, and thirdly, you can risk (and this is clearly a risky business) only with your own money. And by the way, a large bet size attracts the attention of bookmakers, so the more money you bet, the greater the chance that the result of the game will be canceled and all bets will be returned.
658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: PH banned online cockfighting - Worst gambling-related cases recorded! on: June 04, 2022, 11:59:09 AM
Thanks for the explanation. But this is exactly what I was talking about - if such things happen, then this speaks of much more serious problems in society than gambling at cockfights. If there are some people who put themselves above the law, then they will violate it no matter what area the business is in - cockfighting, some other entertainment or construction. I think the Filipinos should put pressure on their government and the police to deal with these criminal problems. And only after these obvious problems are solved can you do such nonsense as cockfights.
It's not as easy as we can say, mate. These big fish really had the power due to money, that's the sad reality and this isn't just happening in our country but also in other countries where they can feed those authorities with a bunch of money that they can. But this time, even if they don't feed money to the authorities, they're putting power into their own hands and get away with it later even a case will be filed against them because they have all the means to get away with it due to money and bail.

I understand what you are talking about because I live in Russia, where everything is also decided by money and corrupt ties, and criminals feel as comfortable as possible here. And yes, in fact, we cannot do anything against this "big gang" that has seized the state, but I (and many of the citizens) at least understand the essence of the problem and do not pay attention to trifles like some kind of illegal businesses (even if it's something then a hardcore like drugs or the like).
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Effectively Maximize Profits from Online Crypto Casinos on: June 04, 2022, 11:47:03 AM
I see a lot of users who swear by making money from advancing your profile to a higher level of rewards.  This requires a lot of gambling, so it seems like people use low risk games to try and inflate their wagered numbers to earn more rewards.  This seems like it could be risky but does appear to work for some individuals.  Personally, I think the best way to maximize profit is to stick with sports gambling for games/events where you are knowledgeable and feel you might have an edge over the typical gambler.  I'd urge people to stay away from other tactics like The Martingale strategy, that appear to work until they don't and you lose all your funds...

It would be interesting to see some proof of their earnings beyond words (everyone likes to show off even when they lose they make up reasons to do it). Such earnings seem initially illogical to me - advancing your profile gives meager bonuses and earnings compared to the amount of money that you have to use in bets to get them.
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar - UEFA Qualifiers on: June 04, 2022, 11:40:12 AM
Your statement looks especially interesting against the background of the fact that there will be no reigning European champions, the Italian team, at this World Cup.
By the way, today Roberto Baggio spoke on this topic, saying that such a format is insane and the European champion should automatically qualify for the World Championship. I tend to agree with him, there is 100 percent logic in this.
I agree that the European champion and other continents champions should directly go to world championship, but at the same time do we really want a team that was good enough to win Europe, but then became not so good and just be there for everyone to beat them?

I want them to fight for it and earn it, otherwise what is the point of it? This is why I both agree and disagree, I agree that one achievement should be rewarded, but I think maybe something other than entry to WC right away? Maybe something else, like maybe easier path to WC? Or better things for next Europe one? I do not know, but direct entry to WC shouldn't be it, because one team could get worse between Europe win to WC entry.

Theoretically, we can say that these are two different tournaments, so it is normal that the champion of one tournament may not make it to the final part of another. But in fact, there is such a thing as status, and when the champion of the strongest region in the world is absent at the World Cup, this hits the prestige of the tournament and, in fact, it can hardly be called world.
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