Apologies if this was already said, but those evga refurb prices aren't that great, if you're not picky about brand and are a little patient you can find the same or better at Amazon or Newegg...
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I have two GPU rigs and two ASICS (an S3 and L3+). I have each of them pointed at Nicehash maybe 1/3-1/2 the time, and I always get paid out accurately by Nicehash. Maybe check your settings? Also note that if you set up a Nicehash wallet, you can save on payout fees if you're patient.
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Hi everybody! My 1st post here as I discovered the forum not long ago and im a newbie... My question is: I currently have an Antminer S9 mining bitoin on slushpool... I was wondering if I could mine another type of coin? You can mine any SHA256 coin. Check whattomine.com.
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I posted this in another thread, but we may be able to put together a large enough order to make shipping to the US worthwhile. PM me if interested. EDIT TO ADD: I made a thread in the marketplace section to discuss/plan if we get enough folks. Seems the consensus is that a 10 piece minimum will likely be required. Discussion here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2425582.msg24818692#msg24818692
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They got back to me today to say they don't ship to the US currently and don't have a reseller here. If enough of us are interested we might be able to place a large enough order to make it worth their while, though. PM me if you're interested, I'd be good with coordinating (or buying in if someone wants a bunch and just needs a few people to jump in, either way).
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Yes, that's what I was thinking about doing... mining obscure & brand new coins. But is it possible to mine those with a USB bitcoin miner? Someone on this forum told me Bitcoin miners can mine bitcoin only.
I know all these USB miners can't generate any profit at all if you mine Bitcoin or other popular currencies. S9 has TB hash rate... these USB miners barely have one or two GB rate. If one S9 is not enough to generate good amount of money, USBs can't battle in the mining pool.
Yes, correct. Any ASIC is specific to the algorithm, so a "bitcoin" miner can only mine SHA256 coins, a "litecoin" miner can only mine scrypt coins, a "dash" miner can only mine x11, etc. ASIC stands for Application Specific Integrated Circuit. You CAN use USB ASICS, but most of them have the same limitations as their louder, more expensive brethren. If you want to mine obscure coins your best bet is to make a small build computer with one or two cheap GPUs on it, it will give you the widest range of coins to choose from. You can build a single card miner for probably around $300 or so, or less if you use parts you already have/pick up at a second hand store/etc.
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Eehhhm Antminer S5? Hmm
Good luck. They don't seem to be set up for individual sales (based on numerous attempts to buy from them). EDIT: heard back from them today. They are currently not shipping to the US. Europeans and Russians may have better luck though.
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How about using Butterfly Lab USB miner to mine other crypto currencies like Neo, New York Coin, IOTA? Do you guys think it will work? I will not going to use CPU & GPU then.. but will try old Bitcoin USB miners to mine other currencies. Is it possible to mine, for instance, IOTA with Butterfly Lab USB miner?
I don't think I will spend $1900 to buy Antminer at all. But I can spare $80 for a butterfly lab USB miner and try it out on obscure crypto currencies if it can mine?
Honestly? I don't think there is any profit in buying USB miners. They're fun to mess with and learn about mining from, but their day, like CPU for most coins, is long past. But if you just want to tinker with obscure or brand new launch coins, go for it, that's what I use all my outdated gear for (during winter, when the heat is beneficial, anyway). If you want to mess around with mining but not spend a fortune at first, the S5 is still a little bit profitable. You can get them on aliexpress for around $200 or so ($220 with a PSU included). I ordered one to play with and mod, but you CAN just use it to mine. I recommend replacing the fans on it though, the one that comes with it is ridiculously loud and if you get some quiet fans in a push/pull it's basically about as loud as an S3. Which is to say not very.
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Best practice is mining at 50%~60% max PSU power. That gives you the best power efficiency. PSUs have 10 year warranty. They don't depreciate.
Or buy 80+ gold or titanium so you don't have to worry about them as much, they're designed to run constant at at least 80%. I have a gold 1050W that runs at around 850W constantly and barely even runs warm.
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Nothing to add, just bookmarking.
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Only use splitters if you know exactly what you're doing.
What he/she said. Are you using the 6+2 pins for the risers? Use SATA converters for those, you can even double them up if needed, but don't skimp on the cards themselves. Or pick up a cheap 400W psu for those two cards, they're not very expensive. Also: the 1070 will draw more than 100W, up to 150W actually. You can keep it low by underclocking or mining a cryptonight coin.
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The point youre obviously missing is that under normal operation wood is fine BUT if a component fails wood catches fire easily and when that fire has fuel it can burn your house down. A metal frame will not catch fire if a component fails and components by themselves dont have enough material to really burn explosively.
If youre using wood, plastic, cardboard(srs Ive seen a few) or any other easily flammable material to build your frames you are a moron. Its that simple. Electronics fail and when they do you dont want to have them light anything up...
Yup. This. The discussion is "can", not "will", and in the can discussion metal will always be fire safer than wood. Plastic, though? Depends. I have a 6gpu rig in a 4U rack case, but I also have a 4gpu rig in a milk crate. It's stupid thick, hard plastic. Is it flammable? Technically yes, but literally the whole rig would have to catch fire for it to be a concern (and I keep it on some sheet metal in a concrete basement). Now the sound dampening box for my L3, however, is built from wood. I do plan to eventually line the interior with sheet metal for this exact reason, but I'm also not shutting it off in the meantime because the risk exists, but is rather low...
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If you log into ethos and type "update" (no quotes), it will send the most current data to the web monitor page.
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To give you an idea, I have a second gen 8-core i7, and in about 3 days I was able to mine 100 Bytecoin. Go ahead and look up what that's worth, I'll wait. There are other SHA256 coins, for sure. Return rates aren't great, but if you solo/lottery mine, who knows? Or join a pool with them, it may take forever to get the tiniest bit but, again, it's a fun way to learn. I like Peercoin, personally, and BitcoinCash has done well for my old S3 (well, as well as 500gh/s is going to do, at any rate). Mazacoin in a pool might nab you some coin, and who knows? If it goes up in value, could make it worth your time.
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You probably can, but I really don't suggest it. Part of GPU and CPU mining builds is a good amount of attention paid to cooling. Your laptop is designed to run hot likely, but there is a difference between running variably near max throughput while playing a game and running 24/7. It will severely cut the lifespan and could tank it while you still need it.
That said, playing around with miners isn't the worst idea. I've run CPU miners on my Macbook Pro for fun. But I wouldn't expect much in the way of income, so if you just want to learn about mining then go for it, if you actually want to mine I HIGHLY suggest building a rig specifically for it, or buying an ASICS machine.
Also don't expect every new coin to become bitcoin. Like the stock market, most of the low end, cheap and easy options won't go anywhere. Again, that said, it doesn't mean DON'T do it, pointing rigs at new coins is half the fun! Just don't bank on it being worth something later.
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I use an old 4U rackmount server case for my 6gpu and a milk crate for my 4gpu. Milk crate is way more heat efficient, I may rebuild the rackmount one into a larger milk crate...
Plus the smaller one is almost portable. It's running ethos and if I can get the wifi working, it can be a mobile "space heater".
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I heat my house with miners (also Pacific NW, so 9 months out of the year I don't vent any of them outside). My house thus far this year hasn't dropped below 65, and is usually above 70 (only drops below 70 when I switch the gpu miners to cryptonight coins). I have a 6gpu, a 4gpu, an L3+ and an S3. I have a S5 (for tinkering) and a D3 on the way (I know, I ordered it a while ago). I am building an office in my yard though, so the heat still won't go to waste.
My L3+, for noise, is in a sound dampening box I built in the basement, with insulated ducting pumping the warm air into the kitchen.
I replaced my water heater with a tankless a year or two ago, which sucks because I would LOVE to mod up a water heater (still may work something for beermaking and the like).
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Thanks for the info actually i just made the math and it came up to $16 per miner so i guess is fine, i don't know about overclocking it i believe that i may short the life spawn of my miners maybe is not like that.
Overclocking may shorten the lifespan. It DEFINITELY voids your warranty. I only did it after I reached ROI and I monitor it staunchly. If you have a bunch of machines or have any concerns with temperatures, I don't suggest it (mine runs in a cold basement so I have more room to play).
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That seems a little low. I make closer to $19-20/day on Nicehash for my L3+ I think (though it IS slightly overclocked; at stock I was closer to $16-18); Nicehash fluctuates significantly though, based on demand for scrypt mining and value of USD and Bitcoin...
If you want to mine other coins on pools, test it out. It only costs you the amount of time you test it. I've had good returns mining Litecoin directly on litecoinpool, as well as LinX on mylinx.io.
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sadly no windows in the garage for venting. could throw a few box fans in there, I suppose, but that would probably just blow around the hot air. and I'm in florida, so it's almost always hot lol. winter is coming though! Insulate the ceiling and throw a couple vent fans in for hottest, sunniest days. As for venting directly, you'd only need a 4" vent, similar to a dryer vent, and some ducting (I used 6" to futureproof it against anything I may want later, but I am also venting inside the house). Easy to cut through a garage wall, you can use a drill attachment. Neither may be necessary, though. If you're set on the L3+, get it and figure out the rest later (that's what I did). It's cheaper and more fun that way anyway.
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