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641  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa yang terjadi jika Ane jiplak tulisan ane sendiri? on: October 08, 2023, 10:59:16 AM
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Maksud ane disini (forum bitcointalk) gan. Bukan disini sebagai dlomir yang merujuk ke tautan, makane ane ga kasih hyperlink didalamnya.

Ya sepakat gan, bagaimanapun tulisan jika ditulis sendiri sangat kecil kemungkinan untuk terjadinya plagiat. Apalagi kalo nulis tentang opini. Apalagi habitus gaya tulisan tiap orang beda beda


Tidak ada masalah karena self-plagiarism biasanya hanya diperhatikan pada bidang pendidikan dan penelitian. Link referensi, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390888.0.

Tengkiu gan sudah memberikan link rujukan, ane gatau kalau ternyata sudah pernah ada yang membahas tentang ini

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Jadi cuma dijadikan alibi yak saat tertangkap tangan melakukan plagiat. Kalau asli tulisannya pasti dia bisa membuktikan dan memiliki akses ke tulisan tsb, kalau ga bisa ya udah tiwas menjadi tersangka  Grin
642  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can change lives on: October 08, 2023, 09:42:14 AM
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Bitcoin can change someone's life, for better or worse. People's fate is different, behind the success stories, I am sure there are many sad stories that are not revealed by the media.

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As far as I know, most people look at bitcoin by its price. Like it or not, but that's what happened. When I write in a Google search using the keyword "bitcoin" the search results display the price of bitcoin

Most people don't care about the features and concept of decentralization, for those who see Bitcoin as an investment, what matters is the price.
643  Other / Off-topic / Re: Free Resume Advice from an Experienced Professional on: October 08, 2023, 02:34:56 AM
If you have experience creating more than 500 resumes, wouldn't it be better for you to attach your portfolio here?

I see the advice you gave in this thread seems very general and I think everyone does that for their resume. Yes, I know looking for a job is something that is challenging, but having your own business is much more challenging than that.

I don't need a resume at this time, but if I ever do, I will consider consulting you
644  Other / Meta / Re: Should Merit-Sources use feelings when giving out Merit? on: October 07, 2023, 12:51:15 PM
First, remove the word "should."
Each merit source acts at its own discretion. Someone gives out merits of 50 pieces, and I doubt that people who receive such a number of merits are among the favorites; someone distributes merits even for plagiarism; and someone will give merit to an account with a negative tag.
The word “should” is inappropriate here, since you cannot influence a person to do something if he does not agree with it. But I like merit sources that distribute merit without delving into emotions. If a post is good on the topic, you can earn it, just like if there is a good joke and it deserves merit.
There are a lot of questions in Meta this week about sources of merit. Why does it seem to me that one person sometimes answers himself? Sometimes you can hide behind an alternative account, but the behavior remains the same. Cheesy

I remember one time I gave a merit to a person who had 5 negative tags  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464515.msg62878051#msg62878051
645  Other / Meta / Re: Should Merit-Sources use feelings when giving out Merit? on: October 07, 2023, 11:19:27 AM
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Don't talk too seriously about merit sources, especially if your current account doesn't have much merit. Because later there will be people who comment that you are asking for merit. Yes, many people like to speculate and accuse, but when they are invited to discuss and argue, they disappear and don't come back again

Merit sources can send their merits to anyone. That is their right because merit is subjective and not moderated
646  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa yang terjadi jika Ane jiplak tulisan ane sendiri? on: October 07, 2023, 06:16:09 AM
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Iya ane juga ga niat untuk share tulisan ane di forum ini karena ga punya tulisan yang relate bitcoin atau crypto, cuma penasan aja. Tapi untuk jaga-jaga memang lebih baik tetep gak njiplak meski tulisan itu milik sendiri

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Beneran gan diperbolehkan? Karena ini sesuatu yang rawan banned, apa agan punya referensi peraturan yang membolehkan tentang njiplak dari tulisan sendiri yang di post di web lain?

Saya tidak tahu tujuan pelarangan plagiasi di forum ini, tetapi untuk keamanan lebih baik agan menulis ulang inti pokok tulisan jika ingin share tulisan agan sendiri yang sudah di publish di website lain
Tujuan pelarangan plagiarisme di forum ini supaya tidak ada budaya mencuri karya orang lain. Forum ini tujuannya baik, untuk mengedukasi dan pembelajaran, jika tidak dilarang justru ada ironi dibalik itu, paham?.

Itu statment lanjutan agan @komisariatku tentang larangan plagiarism dari tulisan sendiri itu perbolehkan atau memang sudah paten dilarang (baik tulisan sendiri atau bukan)

Kalau misalkan penetapan plagiasi di forum ini adalah untuk menghindari adanya kemungkinan klaim hak cipta maka bisa jadi plagiasi tulisan sendiri di perbolehkan. Tetapi jika peraturan sudah berlaku secara umum dan melarang segala bentuk plagiasi maka plagiasi untuk tulisan sendiri pun dilarang

Saya tidak tahu tujuan pelarangan plagiasi di forum ini, tetapi untuk keamanan lebih baik agan menulis ulang inti pokok tulisan jika ingin share tulisan agan sendiri yang sudah di publish di website lain
647  Other / Meta / Re: Can one plagarise unintentionally? on: October 07, 2023, 04:01:07 AM

If we can't find a match on Google, we're unlikely to find it anywhere else, so it may just as well be considered original. I'm quite certain several regular gambling board posters post translations of local sports articles, but I can't find the source when doing reverse translations so for all intents and purposes its not plagiarism... 🤷


Maybe because the writing is not completely plagiarized, but they summarize the writing using their own language style so that even if a reverse translation is carried out, the writing is still considered unique. This method is often used by bloggers or copywriters, they summarize or combine writing on various websites
648  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Apa yang terjadi jika Ane jiplak tulisan ane sendiri? on: October 07, 2023, 03:48:31 AM
Terinsiprasi dari sebuah tulisan di meta yang mempertanyakan kemungkinan menjiplak secara tidak sengaja, tiba-tiba ane mikir kalo misalkan ane memiliki sebuah situs yang dalam tulisan - tulisan tsb ane memiliki hak penuh atas tulisan ane sendiri, yakni hak paten tulisan dan hak publikasi tulisan

Apa yang terjadi jika ane menjiplak tulisan ane sendiri disini?
649  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Akun X satoshi ? on: October 07, 2023, 03:40:06 AM
Entah saya yang baru 'ngeh' atau lupa pernah melihat akun @satoshi di twitter. Beberapa hari yang lalu tepatnya 2 Oktober 2023* akun @satoshi (https://twitter.com/satoshi) 'bangun dari tidurnya' sejak postingan terakhir kalinya pada 31 Oktober 2018 (https://twitter.com/satoshi/status/1057626541184770048) di media tersebut.
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Ane ga yakin kalo akun itu milik satoshi karena jika satoshi ingin bangun dari tidur panjangnya dan jika ingin lebih kontroversial adalah bukan dengan cara bangun di twitter tetapi harusnya dia bangun di forum ini menggunakan akun lamanya. karena itu pasti akan lebih fenomenal karena akunnya disini sudah terbukti adalah akun aslinya

Jadi menutut ane 0.1% akun itu asli dan 99,9% fake
650  Other / Meta / Re: Can one plagarise unintentionally? on: October 07, 2023, 03:25:51 AM
I will not count whatever will be 'unintentional plagiarism' as plagiarism at all, it is just a shared though or a borrowed thought.

I may have read from a user that passport is a good hardware wallet and Electrum is a good software wallet, if another users asks, I can simply write out that thought to them in fairly similar sentences as the user I read it from used, but it will not fall into the ballpark of plagiarism, especially as the text will have other sentences which makes it unique. I consider it almost impossible to unintentionally plagiarize except by copying and pasting while forgetting to include the source of the content, but writing off the top of your head it is impossible to plagiarize.

When writing without reading a text, the human brain is bound to formulate the thought in a unique way, adding content you already have in it, for this reason, every user has their own writing style and it will show even if they are writing something similar with someone else.

- Jay -

I am in this ballpark of blaming and banning. Some times it looks wrong but it isn’t.

Yes, everyone has their own writing style and the chances of them plagiarizing accidentally are very small. Especially writing that contains opinions or arguments

But what happens if I plagiarize my own writing on another website? And I have the rights to the writing, both patent rights and publication rights
651  Economy / Reputation / Re: Possible/Trying to Abusing - MoneyPot.com - 20k satoshi giveaway / alt account on: October 06, 2023, 10:22:05 PM
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Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

I view it as a separate issue. Whether he's Greek or not and whether he cheated with those translations, that still doesn't make him anyone's alt account. If we are discussing a possible alt account and cheating/abuse in the giveaway, I don't think we have sufficient evidence to confirm it. It would be helpful if there were at least some other evidence linking the two, such as blockchain transactions, because, for now, this appears to be a simple copying mistake.


Yes, I think the OP is very motivated in this case even though a lot of evidence shows that they are not alt. Maybe OP shouldn't be too prejudiced. One of the members is from Indonesia, I have read a little history of his writing and yes, he is a native Indonesian speaker. If the OP is still curious, try visiting the local Greek board and asking about the greekcommunity account.
652  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (USDT/BUSD/BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: October 06, 2023, 10:01:04 PM
Reapply as disscus in PM

Loan amount: 80 USDT
Loan purpose: Sudden family needs
Loan repayment amount: 90 USDT
Loan repay date: 5 weeks (11 nov)
Type of collateral: none
USDT address: TJ2dDVacWepx5bb8nnCigvu7nFtRqsumbG
653  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: MoneyPot.com - 20k satoshi giveaway on: October 06, 2023, 03:50:46 PM
Username: Pytagoraz
654  Economy / Lending / Re: Lending Service Started! (USDT/BUSD/BTC/LTC/ETH/DOGE/ETC)! on: October 06, 2023, 03:05:13 PM
Request a loan (if qualified)

Loan amount: 120 USDT
Loan purpose: Sudden family needs
Loan repayment amount: 135 USDT
Loan repay date: 6 weeks (17 nov)
Type of collateral: non
USDT address: TJ2dDVacWepx5bb8nnCigvu7nFtRqsumbG

This was my first loan, and I honestly wasn't sure I would get it. But I would be grateful if you trusted me. Thanks
655  Economy / Reputation / Re: Possible/Trying to Abusing - MoneyPot.com - 20k satoshi giveaway / alt account on: October 06, 2023, 02:54:44 PM
could possibly be just an honest mistake, it does happen. if you check both of the account's post histories, you'll see that one is from Indonesia and the other is from Greece, though it is possible that a person can speak both languages, so who knows. anyway, I agree with yahoo62278, it would be best to report this to the giveaway coordinator and let them do their investigation and decide what to do with it.

If you check greekcomunity untrusted feedback someone posted:

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Aegean Skipper   2018-09-24      He presents himself as Greek but obviously he isn't.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2392558


Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

What happened:: greekcomunity who is not even Greek is receiving translation work which he completes and delivers to victims which are purely google translated. He is reserving work silently and scamming people Its self admitted even by his name and post His name is even wrong as a professional translator. His behaviour is also very spammy posting about work where its not even required

His last posts

https://i.imgur.com/2Sn8ul2.png

Multiple Proof of Scam:

All his documents translated here are done used Google Translate (A simple copy paste and delivery of the work)

This can be verified by any Greek person

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1To3YKinmTBbLMxdIR82fB2cSbQSnNFjy_0pCGG00OAU/edit?usp=drivesdk

But I saw in its history, the Greekcommunity did not make posts in other languages. Even if he used a translator, it cannot be proof that he was not from Greek. I'm also not sure if anyone has made an alt with another country because that would be very difficult
656  Economy / Reputation / Re: Possible/Trying to Abusing - MoneyPot.com - 20k satoshi giveaway / alt account on: October 06, 2023, 05:41:25 AM
I'm not an expert in analyzing alt accounts, I just opened the local posting history of both of them. it seemed like they were from different countries. Vanesha from Indonesia and greekcomunity from Greece. If there is no indication of buying and selling accounts then it is impossible for both of them to be alt because they have different native language speakers
657  Other / Meta / Re: [LOG] The ranked up members - Congratulations! on: October 05, 2023, 11:47:51 AM
[...] Maybe more 2 weeks or 3 weeks from my calculations I could be wrong or right.[...]

Two weeks, 13 days, to be exact. You're on 476, Hero needs 480, so you'll only need 4 more. The last activity-count update that added 14 to your number happened yesterday, the next one will be on 18th this month. That's if the schedule is still on track.

You are correct I just noticed it yesterday being Wednesday that my activities has changed and I only have 4 more to climb 480 activity. From then I did the calculation to know the next possible day to climb Hero, which is on 18 October. Will be so glad to witness the new change of rank and a total of 5 gold coin below my username.

Congratulations on your achievement. That's right, the next period's activity changes will occur on 10/18/2023 11.53.20 UTC. Make a post after that date and time and "BUMM" your account will change to Hero  Wink

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit?usp=drivesdk


I just realized that @holydarkness had shared the spredseets  Grin
658  Other / Meta / Re: When Trust and Merit Systems are subjective on: October 05, 2023, 10:54:07 AM
Regarding the source of merit, I have never had a problem sending your merit to anyone, as it is your right, but this person seems especially nice

So the question is?
A lot has been said about this, so I won't add any more questions. If you want to write feedback, please do so, if not, that's okay. This is just what I wanted to write  Grin
The only punctuation mark I can find in your post that indicates a question is the line I bolded. There isn’t really any question there, but since you dropped to link to qwk’s merit history, it’s fair to assume this thread was to question how merit sources spend their smerits. I find it hypocritical since you have also received and sent a lot of merits from your local board. I’m not familiar with the user qwk, there’s the possibility he could be a merit source for his local board. Who’s to say which post deserves merit when you’re not a native speaker.

I can translate it. That's easy, right?

I'm not accusing anyone here. Just wanted to write what was in my head. There's no need to be too prejudiced, because I also don't have prejudice against anyone


Honestly I was going to close this thread when @loycev answered so accurately
659  Other / Meta / Re: When Trust and Merit Systems are subjective on: October 05, 2023, 10:29:47 AM
Why don't you post from your main account instead of your "activity 140" account when "speaking from authority" about the "vast number of threads you have created" and "how you like to just write without asking questions" (in the four months this current UID of yours has been alive)...

What do you *really* want to know?

If I had a legendary account, I would definitely use it. Do you know how it feels to be ignored in discussions because my account is only a full member?

You are an expert in analyzing alt accounts, please accuse me if I have any mistakes.

btw, what we are talking about is off topic
660  Other / Meta / Re: When Trust and Merit Systems are subjective on: October 05, 2023, 10:14:46 AM
There's no question from what I can see. You are bothered about @qwk's generosity in doling merits? Probably the next thread you'd create is of him suspiciously giving merits to an alt? Just like what most of the users are hammering on, every person has his way of giving merits and if you are bit "concerned" you can PM him and call him to order, don't you think?
I won't have analyzed it better than the way @lovesmayfamilis put it. You would say you are just looking out for him but it seems to me you are a bit envious of the recipient of the merit and somehow wish that merit rain falls on you. I doubt if you would have raised this misguided thread if you were the one  receiving it.

Ok so:
1. What makes you think that I'm accusing @qwk of giving merit to alts accounts? he is an account with the title "donatur" he doesn't need alt for sigcamp.

2. I never thought of asking for his merits, what makes you think I asked him for merit?

3. What makes you think that my thread is misguided?

Please explain with clear arguments, you can think badly about me, but don't just talk nonsense and provide clear arguments for what you are accusing me of.

Let's discuss.
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