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Sorry, wrong asset, was looking for DeaDTerra's
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When will the BTC be paid out and shares cancelled?
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mining is a zero sum game. no difference between you stumbling or your competitors catching up.
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大家很著重技術上問題, 技術問題固然重要, 不過 BTC 本身已屬灰色地帶, 香港或中國政府要攻擊有很多途徑, 多抵觸幾條法例沒關係 [比喻: 殺一個人 vs 殺十個人].
有幾點被忽略, 由於紅股回贈, 吸引了一定的交投量, 亦有人以此成功進行 arbitrage 套利, 796 因此多次修改送股比例, 遏抑 '虛假交易', 屬於負責行為.
不過往後沒有回贈, 交投量會如何? 這很難預算. 另外 796 平台還欠缺買賣 API, 比例式提現費用讓一般人難接受, 一般平台都沒有費用或一個很小的固定費用防止灌水
其實 796 期貨概念不錯, 不過有別於一般商品或外匯期貨, 較接近期指, 但可能解釋得不夠好, 老外不明白, 得多做一點市場推廣. 這期貨讓用戶沽空 BTC, 或做對衝 (hedging) 或們 mtgox arbitrage.
我覺得現在攪 IPO 和中止送股時機還未成熟, 首先 796 只有兩個月業績, 信任度及認知度未建立, 很多老外不明. 另外 BTCT 和 BF (尢其是 G.ASICMINER) 近期攪得很差, G.ASICMINER 常發息遲, 無客服, 經營人更罵持股人. BTCT 前兩天鬧著禁止美國人, 弄出了一個小股災, 現在中止送股無助吸納炒家用這平台.
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If it was the obvious, why'd they dick around with $.50 wall moves? The 96 wall was the same regardless.
Seems like a waste of time. Maybe they were just having some weekend fun.
manpiulation! |
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 你可以在這裡張貼? |
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看不到, 空白 用 IE / Opera / Chrome!
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I always find these 'walls' odd. Other than being useful for 'scalping' (controlling prices to a certain extent and making $ off the bid-ask spread), they look like an inefficient way of accumulating or distributing. As per the other exchange. You raised a valid point. But getting money to BTC-E is difficult and most of the methods involve high fee - their deposit fee is quite ridiculous. Neither BTC-E nor bitstamp's orderbook can accommodate thousands of BTC without price moving significantly. As bitstamp's price slowly creeps up, I guess there goes the theory that people snapping up BTC on gox as a mean of moving their $. As least, they are not dumping their gox BTC on bitstamp. The buying whale has decided to wait for seller exhaustion at 96.
And yes, this is f-ing boooring!
Ditto, holding the market is almost as bad as the repeated 1000+ BTC dumps we had a few weeks back. At least then there is reason for chaos and disorder, now everyone is sitting around watching the folks who have whipped it out and put it on the table but are too timid to actually do anything. Flaccid whales. Here is a question: If it's the whales that are accumulating why is the spread vs Bitstamp and BTC-e so high? |
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actually just did some math, Core i7 3930k does 66.6 MH/s; a speed up by 50x would be 3.3 GH
I can imagine people using their machines at work to mine or mine at the library.
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Could be. It's not clear from the whitepaper what specific architecture changes Intel are making to accommodate these instructions (i.e., it might be just a single hashing core). Having said that I cannot believe that there aren't a few skunkworks ASIC chip designs floating around in Intel at the moment, given the number of chip designers they have. How much did AES-NI speeds things up? I suppose we maybe looking at similar factor. Even with a speed up of 25-50x, CPU is still no match to ASIC. |
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Interesting. You think they were waiting for the market to tank before buying the BTC and acquiring SDice?
I'm not sure if the acquirers were that smart.
In fact, I'm not really sure about the acquirors and who they were, or if they even existing. The fact they remain anonymous is a little shady. There's something fishy about the whole thing. Although I do accept that alot of ordinary shareholders got paid eventually.
I thought people get paid already. |
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While it does seem prices are picking up, but with so many complaints about not getting money out of gox, not quite sure what to make of this. I think we should also keep track of bitstamp as it's volume is getting a lot closer to gox and keep an eye out on the spread between the 2. Part of the demand is probably just ppl trying to move money out of gox by bidding up BTC.
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Just do a search on for member burnside and look at his last posts. He operates the BTCT. Looks like we'll have some cheap ASICMINER stock, or a lot of transfer to non-US exchanges such as havelock, 796, and OTC. Is bitfunder based on US?
I thought havelock was US, too? I believe they are Canadian - the 51st state! But so far Canada seems to have taken quite a different approach towards bitcoins. |
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the one that just happened with every buy order above 4.55 got filled.
Price went from 4.8 to 4.55
I believe burnside plans to ban US based user from buying stock and they'll be given some time to liquidate their asset. This caused the crash rather than market's take on the dividend. |
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Just do a search on for member burnside and look at his last posts. He operates the BTCT. Looks like we'll have some cheap ASICMINER stock, or a lot of transfer to non-US exchanges such as havelock, 796, and OTC. Is bitfunder based on US?
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Mtgox withdraw is back.
Don't suppose you want to enable the link back on exchange trading?
how many people actually get their wire transfer from mtgox? |
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Hardware franchising. How does that work? Is it like equipment leasing? If so, does the equipment eventual returns? Because typical retail franchise, the operator primarily acquires usage of brand name - can't really draw a true parallel between the this franchising and retail franchise. UpdateFinancial StatusMining Income: 102,041.82 BTCBlade Sales Income: 29,594.75 BTCUSB Sales Income: 37,524.00 BTCTotal: 169,520.57 BTCDevice and Infrastructure Expense: 397,800.00$ + 4,909,930.00￥ Electricity Expense: 729,542.05￥ Labor Expense: 327,081.00￥ Logistics Expense: 132,184.90￥ Deposits: 117,506.01￥ Total: 397,800.00$+6,216,243.96￥ Balance Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al1fvFT7Sd5bdEthNEpIWWxpcW90RFBQOFZ6aFlxT0E&usp=sharingHardware FranchisingThis is a new business model option besides self-mining and hardware sales. We will rent the excessive hashing power to financial and technical capable people, accepting full deposits at the market price, shipping the devices and collecting a certain PPS rate based on the theoretical hashrate. The PPS rate, the dividing of cost coverage, as well as warranty/exit strategy are being discussed in detail and executed as small-scale experiments. This model is similar to hardware sales in the aspect that we do not have in control on how the users make use of our devices, therefore has more decentralization in spirit. And like with self-mining, it aims at settings in scale, enjoying the reduction of NRE cost and operating cost overall, and reducing potential marketing/advertisement/customer service costs. Project TimelineAugust-September: Deploy/sell all hashpower arriving in July and early August. September-November: Deploy/sell the hashpower ordered at early July. November-December: Experimental products of 2nd-gen chips and modular large-scale deployment solutions. |
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Hey, Doog. I don't think you should scrap the ad idea. It just needs alternate implementation. Perhaps the 'advertise with us' link should just go to another page that accepts your Email, Bid and banner. Then displays that as an ad leader board on that page...With the email provided obviously as a means of notifying the winner that they have x hours to pay before it rolls to the next bidder.
I'm not sure what initially made you create just-dice, but are you using the suggestions I came up with in the SD thread? (Not implying you shouldn't, I'm happy that chat, ads, accounts etc. are being used when they're such obvious additions to the game). I was really hoping I'd be able to start on something like this as soon as my I.T degree finishes this semester but alas, I feel it would be a waste as i have little forum credibility along with a delayed start. Oh well, there are still plenty of ideas that can grow from Bitcoins fertile soil yet.
Anyway I was just going to say, I've got a few other ideas to share that I feel would boost the sites users and revenue for just-dice. So if you wanted, please just get in touch with me with a PM.
I said "only 1 BTC" not meaning it isn't much, but that it isn't much relative to the 500k BTC turnover of the site. When people are making massive bets over and over, 1 BTC per week seems like noise... I'll see how the auction goes over the next couple of weeks, and consider switching to the leaderboard idea. I'm not aware of using your ideas from the SDICE thread, although I certainly read your posts. I think things like ads and chat are pretty much obvious things to do. I put the ads up because I was nagged into doing so, and chat just makes a site more "sticky". I initially made the site because I thought the "investment" idea was just too good not to implement, and wanted to see how it worked out. Maybe I should revisit the SDICE thread and see if there are more ideas worth borrowing (as if I don't already have a huge list of things to implement on the site)... Wait, you made 500k BTC from Just-Dice? o_O It's not profit, it's just the turnover. |
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