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641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bloody day trade on: July 10, 2017, 12:14:07 AM
So the most ludicrous pump in human history is finally faltering? What did anyone expect? Peoples memories here are pitifully short. Three or four months ago ethereum was 10 dollars.
And now ethereum is following reverse fibonacci sequence and is coming back to what was the price earlier, although it seems too good to be true that ethereum would go back again to $10, if in that case I'll sell all my bitcoins to buy ethereum.

In that case your bitcoin will cost 100-300  Grin Grin Grin

Another yet depressing article on days after tomorrow, ever blood is meet with apocalyptic views! so typical
642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 11:36:34 PM
As always Joel Katz backs Ripple, spends his precious time to reply on articles that are written by complete idiots, here is his answer: https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/7151-coindesk-versus-ripple/?page=2#comment-68228
643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zcoin (XZC) - Implementing Zerocoin technology for financial privacy on: July 09, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
I can't spend my whole day here arguing. I'm just expressing my genuine belief. I am not even saying that Zcoin has no future, I'm saying that this news on MTP is massive, will massively weigh on prices, and is a very big setback and adds to reputational concerns around Zcoin.

It will not, you just need to read what is written, as you the only one who keeps pushing its own truth create in parallel reality.
644  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 10:09:34 PM
........ The over hang of 55B xrp from insiders might mean we won't see huge gains anymore though.

And.... more bullshit.  
You have no idea of how Ripple will distribute or USE THESE COINS.  The future is not here yet.

Dude, lets concentrate on a good things, events page was updated: https://ripple.com/events/

Ripple is not finished this year!
645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 10:07:37 PM

I say that ripple has maybe not do well intentions like linus torvalds. Linus Torvalds has undoubtedly created a few very nice things. I hope you don't want to say that he has bad intentions Wink. Anyway last post here Wink

Go and educate yourself, than come back and see all that nonsense you wrote.
646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 08:18:41 PM
It really depends on what you are looking for, Ripple will be around for a long time but growth wise has it got much room for huge growth? bitcoin however has a lot of room to grow and for reasons already stated by others ripple has a lot of negatives going for it.

There was no single real reason stated here for Bitcoin to grow, whereas a lot for XRP to grow and even do flippering!
647  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 08:14:56 PM
what are you talking about - "print money themselves"? judging by your post count (and everything else you've said), i'm going to assume you lack an understanding of ripple as a company and what's actually happening in general. please do more research before stating bogus claims.

No I do not understand. But I can code and I have a programmers view on things. And ripple has centralized servers that for sure not run the open source software. Exchanges as of my understanding have just a wallet like everybody else and do issue IOUs. So why should a exchange be able to stop Ripple from printing themselves money?

If that open source software would work everybody could just take it, improve it and go to banks and say I'm the better ripple. A company that money with his stuff will not open source it's code. Linux Torvalds never took money for Linux as far as I know. I don't know why you cant see the problem here.

First of all, Linus Torvalds. He did not look money for Linux, but got money from Support e.g. Trainings, certification, consultancy etc. anyway, if you look, you will find how they own money. Like with so called decentralisation, there are no  "Free Software", there are just different ways of doing money.

Again, you like idiot keep saying "Printing money". No one prints money, stop showing yourself stupid. Unless somebody gives you money for that.
648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ZenCash Speculations on: July 09, 2017, 08:05:41 PM
Can someone tell me though what sets Zencash apart from others - say Monero?

Zcash has a backdoor for regulators which monero has not. Monero is 100% secure

Here we are, we found your one precious!

If you want real security, real privacy, only way is - ZCoin

Come on vsync back to the ripple topic. I saw the upper crippler came out of his ivory tower to comment on the topic.

Go anonymously go monero. No bullshit no hype around it, no dubious figures hanging around, no inflated smart contract dreams just 100% anonymous & secure.

Here is a good writeup regarding zerocoin  https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2719/how-does-monero-privacy-and-security-compare-to-zcoin/2725

Common my methadelic ripple fan boy. Organisations like CIA and NSA can figure out the transactions because the link between transaction still exist on the blockchain. Also Monero transactions are heavyweight and slow and there is still no normal functioning wallets available for mass adoption. In addition the people behind Monero don't care much about community and have taken the piss out of investors before which is very amateur and childish.

Also, here is the only world real anonymous coin, educate yourself my unstable cripple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUdupQjnLVc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GijBiepK0ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxG4MirxKMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJirQaBIzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMx-lTPQAxk
649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ZenCash Speculations on: July 09, 2017, 07:15:04 PM
Can someone tell me though what sets Zencash apart from others - say Monero?

Zcash has a backdoor for regulators which monero has not. Monero is 100% secure

Here we are, we found your one precious!

If you want real security, real privacy, only way is - ZCoin
650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 07:09:55 PM
Ripple the only coin here that solves real world problem and has use-cases.

Yes, exactly!
Nice to see you here vsyc! I could do with some help defending XRP. Many people seem to misunderstand.

There are just moron traders, they have on appreciation to value at all. Anyone who wants to draw a line, here:

https://ripple.com/xrp/
https://ripple.com/insights/nine-things-need-know-xrp/
651  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 07:03:31 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Ripple is 25 cents because there are already BILLIONS (only 21Million bitcoins will be in existance EVER).

Ripple also has a hard cap of... Wait there is no hard cap. Ripple is fiat 2.0. Why not just use fiat?! At least it's stable!

Look how many banks around the world back up ripple. Why the hell are you even looking into cryptocurrency if you just want a coin made by a bank?? What's the point? Would you also like a bitcoin bank? What a useless concept.

Oh ye, we prefer miners bank! Ripple has cap, you just need to open eyes. And this is even not about banks, at least in Ripple I do not need to pay to miners, worried what psychological issue they need to overcome tomorrow, all this politics and wait days on transaction conformation, and fuck, this shit can not be called store of value, when in a hour it can loose 900USD in value.
652  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 06:59:58 PM
so you guys mean investing in ripple is a bad idea because it's price is lower now?
You haven't read the replies. Ripple is like digital fiat that can be manipulated and inflated at will. Some banks are already adapting to use blockchain verification with fiat transfers. How is Ripple going to compete with that? The average user will either choose the most valuable crypto (Bitcoin) or a more anonymous one (Ethereum) or Fiat with Blockchain transfers. Ripple has no target audience.

LOL Ethereum anonymous!!!!!!!!! LOL you fucking idiot.

None of it can do transactions in seconds, like XRP
None of it has fraction of cent fee like XRP

Ripple the only coin here that solves real world problem and has use-cases. Bitcoin does not solve any of problem, even Ethereum solves more problems.
653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 06:57:11 PM
Ripple price is just 0.25 but bitcoin is already expensive,, and since many experts are saying Ripple will be larger than anything ever seen, so do you think it's a good idea to get our hands on this Ripple? Experts suggestion needed. thanks

Saying the truth Ripple hasn't show any light that will be a good coin for the future, for many weeks or months it's price is declining.

I really hoped that Ripple is a good coin and with a good potential in the future but I've got disappointed but I want to happen the opposite but maybe after a year or two.

About bitcoin I'm more optimistic rather than ripple, but let's see what will happen after 1st August and after this September. 

The price got 7500% raise, compared to Bitcoin that only has political problems, and was crashing from 1300 to 200 and controlled by miners and etc. Damn, I would better trust LTC (if not be biased on XRP), though it has Miners monopoly there
654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Investing in Ripple but not in bitcoin? on: July 09, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Ripple is so low in value due to the supply. There are currently: 38,291,387,790 XRP in circulation. Almost 39bn. So I'd say 0.25c is a decent value for something that is so common.

Bitcoin has a high value and will continue to hold that value, because it's naturally scarce and has a finite amount.

If XRP would goto $1 it will likely overtake BTC in current market cap....not going to happen.

that means we need to stay away from ripple then? Do you know any other currency which has lower price but huge uptrend potential.. like bitcoin.?

You need to do your own reasearch and make your own decision. If you start read, you will understand that 90% of clowns that wrote above, just want you to be in other camp.

Read, research and choose your own camp, never trust clowns.
655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 06:46:23 PM
Is it true that the Ripple company could basically release new coins whenever they like? Isn't this quite centralized then?

This is not true, they only have 100B in total supply. 55B will be locked EOY.
656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
A coin of bullshit that cost me thousands of dollars,i will no longer believe the news about RIPPLE be it DUMP or JUMP
Look at the current RIPPLE price  Huh Embarrassed
Have you checked the pric of the other top 10 currencies?

From his answers you can bet, that he is not able to do anything, just swearing.

Ripple had it's MEGA BULL RUN, but you know how it is , what goes up must come down.
This is very much the case with this centralized coin . I learned it also the hard way:
NEVER BUY IN THE HYPE
Simple but effective

Golden rule, but FOMO is something that you have psychologically resist.
657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 06:42:40 PM
Furthermore that it is open source does highly indicate that something is wrong about ripple. They surely don't do it because of the open source sense (like Linux Linus Torvalds "I believe open source is the only way you can develop software"). I tell you something is wrong there for sure.

If you have XRP sell then.
I did not ask for your opinion.
It was sharing information not to make you buy XRP.
And you'd better read the whole article and make your moves not take one sentence from context.

I read the whole article but the benefits of ripple are worth nothing if they can eg. print themselves money. Run other software on their servers then what is on github. This is maybe a marketing gag, beacuse people me including have no clue of this highly complex envirmonment and ripple nails that. Maybe it's a huge scam, I woul dnot be surprised.

I think that same applies to any current crypto coin? Don't? Nothing is truly decentralised, wake up. Secondly, you still keep loud on Ripple printing money, but to be that loud, you have to provide facts. Where are they?
658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 06:38:49 PM
Is Ripple a money printing machine?

1) Seriously who tells out that they do not give themselves more XRP since it's centralized? They can literally print themeselves money and change it to dollars. I see why banks like that.

2) Nobody even knows if they really use XRP internal, since it seems suboptimal to other systems. Furthermore XRP price is highly volatile, I don't see that Banks would like that. If the don't use it internal XRP would be worth nothing.

3) Why should XRP be worth more if Ripple gets more banks partners? I mean it's purpose (ripple claims they use it in their process) is not affected at all by that.

1.there is certain amount of XRP in the market. Also the 55 villions will be locked in ESCOW account and will be sold slowly.  FYI eth does not have a number you can make as much eth as you want.
2.banks will need an intermediate coin iin order to make fast transactions. this is due to the cost of change from one cureency to other, its not like exchanging likes in facebook, you have cental banks, regulations and so on.
3. More banks mean more transaction more tranactions mean more ripple.
the volatility... i see ripple not that volatile like the other cryptos .


1) what tells you that they are not printing themeselves money with giving themselves more and more coins.

2) This article says something different: http://www.coindesk.com/ripples-xrp-giving-third-largest-cryptocurrency-second-look/

3) You mean because there are less ripple because they get destroyed.

1. Re-read point 1 by cretanicious and look on what you wrote. You wrote absolute nonsense.

2. The article is full of lie that is already shocked community, same you can read https://ripple.com/insights/nine-things-need-know-xrp/

3. I have not seen XRP going from 0.25c to 0.02c in one minute, I might wrong, feel free to prove it.
659  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 04:10:09 PM
A coin of bullshit that cost me thousands of dollars,i will no longer believe the news about RIPPLE be it DUMP or JUMP
Look at the current RIPPLE price  Huh Embarrassed
Have you checked the pric of the other top 10 currencies?

From his answers you can bet, that he is not able to do anything, just swearing.
660  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 09, 2017, 01:28:02 PM
Ripple's XRP: Giving the Third-Largest Cryptocurrency a Second Look - CoinDesk

Quote
There have been a few proof-of-concept implementations and recently Thailand's Siam Commercial Bank announced they starting using Ripple software for Thailand-to-Japan remittance.

This is a big deal, but it needs context; first of all, SCB bank is an investor in Ripple company, making it fairly logical they would experiment and promote the blockchain technology they invested in. More importantly however, I see no mention of XRP in any of the press releases.

Is it being used? Or are they using Interledger Protocol (ILP)? ILP was also developed by Ripple, and appears to be a fairly impressive piece of technology to bridge between various blockchains and systems. It's open source, hosted by the Linux Foundation and could become a part of the Hyperledger framework.

But note that ILP itself has no native token; it doesn't depend on XRP and doesn't add value to it. Even if ILP finds wide adoption in the fintech industry, it will do precious little for XRP.

As for the moonshot of replacing Swift; first of all, I highly doubt a global consensus protocol is the right approach and could even scale to that level. But also, banks currently control Swift. How likely is it they would relinquish control to a small startup and allow themselves to become beholden to its private currency, that they have no need for? I just don't see that happening.

This is especially true when alternatives like Hyperledger exist that do not suffer from Ripple's inherent drawbacks; a protocol which is backed by a far larger consortium of corporations, which relies on proven consensus algorithms that have been researched, peer reviewed and thoroughly tested for over 15 years, and a protocol which at least at first glance, appears to do almost everything Ripple does and more, including things like smart contracts.

The only obvious thing that appears missing from Hyperledger compared to Ripple, is the one thing for which I see absolutely no reason for them to want: the XRP token.
Sad

I should have stopped reading after this: 'P4man' is an active bitcoin miner and investor with an academic background in economy and IT. He has been a member of the online discussion forum Bitcoin Talk since September, 2011.

But I continued, and than I drag this from context:

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More importantly however, I see no mention of XRP in any of the press releases.

And I go here: https://ripple.com/insights/ and see:

Jul 6th, 2017 Nine Things You Need to Know About XRP
May 22nd, 2017 XRP: The Digital Asset for Payments
Mat 18th, 2017 XRP Liquidity to Deepen with Listings on Six New Exchanges
May 16th, 2017 Ripple to Place 55 Billion XRP in Escrow to Ensure Certainty of Total XRP Supply
May 11th, 2017 How We Are Further Decentralizing the XRP Ledger to Bolster Robustness for Enterprise Use

Simply collection of obsolete FUD just to strike back Ripples 6th of July release. One idiot was allowed to post whatever on Coindesk. I see Coindesk goes to nowhere like Cointelegraph.

Meanwhile author showed absolute un-awareness on what exactly Ripple wants to solve, author has absolutely no clue in this domain.
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