Man, just lock the thread. If you consider you have your answer already, why to continue with this nonsense??
Lock it. Problem solved.

As they told you, this topic has been already discussed:
- Merits to become JR: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4654923.0

Next time, when you read the meta board after a while off, be sure you get beyond the first page or use the "search" button.

I can't just understand how people can be so stupid. I mean: if you have many accounts, all of them spamming the forum and one of them is banned, how are you so idiot to come to meta and try to recover one of your multiple-spamming accounts? We are going to see your activities, tag you and have information about your others accounts...

Seriously, I just can't understand how people cheat the system and, yet, they have the face to come to here (while still cheating) and ask for forgiveness....

( I am starting to develop a convulsing facepalm disorder)

Because to have alts accounts to spam the forum, to milk the system and just to earn some cents by writing stuff like "Good Project, sir", is considered SPAMMING and leads towards a permaban. The permaban included all your accounts, meaning, your person.
You can be banned for:
- Spamming all over the forum (with such one-lined phrases like "Good Project", etc.
- Copy/pasting other's work or by plagiarism
- off-topic or non-sense quotes (take a look at your own activity)
- etc.

If your only goal in here is to earn some cents by joining as many bounties as you can instead of making useful contributions and being a part of the forum, probably you will end banned.

To the OP, no. You are just thinking about ranking-up as a way of milking, even more, the cow. This is far from being a good attitude towards the forum.

After taking a look at the services offered on several internet websites, I do agree with the merit requirement for juniors will be a great step ahead against the spamming problem.
Take a look at this one, for example:


This guy is offering "bumping" services on your ann thread. In fact, it seems to be profitable for him, for he has managed to get some clients. If you pay attention to the description, the guy claims to have more than 200 JR Member accounts.
Now, if all those juniors accounts had needed 5 merits (or at least one) to become junior, then he will manage 200 Newbies accounts and be able to do the same.
So, maybe implementing a merit to become Newbie and 5 Merits to become Jr is the solution.
In addition, if newbies and Juniors CAN'T bump a thread, this guy "enterprise" will be pointless.
I don't think that guys like this one are rare. In fact, one of the most troubling information is how he manages to have 200 accounts<?

The link to his "services" (he has many different offers):
- ICO marketing for $100: https://www.seoclerk.com/content-writing/602427/Cryptocurrency-ICO-marketing-on-Bitcointalk-and-other-crypto-forums
- Bump your thread for $100: https://www.seoclerk.com/Traffic/611685/Bump-Up-Your-Bitcointalk-Thread

So, do you think that by asking for merits to this kind of accounts will be a good solution?
To me, it is. It will be difficult for this guys to sell the services, I hope.

Seems pretty awesome. Can you provide me the link? I haven't heard of it...

Yep, in fact, it seems like the point of an iceberg. This guy is offering his services on different platforms:
https://www.seoclerk.com/content-writing/602427/Cryptocurrency-ICO-marketing-on-Bitcointalk-and-other-crypto-forums

If you check this website, there are plenty of offers associated with bumping, creating comments, "comments storms", et al.
Whatever, it seems profitable for him, sadly.

I think it can be useful to create a new thread on the Beginners board explaining what kind of thread "style" are not really being supported, how to avoid to be disrespectful or whatever. Anyway, taking a recent look to this board, I've come to realize that it has become an altcoin board extension since most of the threads opened are related to bounties/airdrops.
Anyway, it is never pointless to speak about your own statements, one of two concerned newbies probably will appreciate this.

I'm curious about what do you think of that:


This is the OP profile information. I have some mixed feelings about the matter: on one hand, the OP is asking if another user's behavior is ok when he's doing quite the same. On the other hand, when this "merit" persecution is going to come to an end? Since when Torquemada has come back to life?

Quite the same, from my perspective, and since your asking for personal opinion, to me there is an unnecessary statement, a lack of elegance. For instance, I will not merit you if I read that in your profile, as I wouldn't merit the other guy, for I truly dislike this kind of behaviour (again, my personal opinion).


Totally, I just can't see the point. I don't know, every time I see this kind of messages into a profile information I use to think "This guy is just seeking for merits in every thread he creates", so no merit from me. It is against the merit spirit, from my perspective.

Well, this is just pathetic. By this, probably the user will end in the ignored list of many so he will not receive a single merit
This is not the first case of this stupid behavior I've seen, it is, actually, kind of common.

EDIT: eeeehmmm... man, you are doing quite the same:

To be honest, I don't think it can works. Probably it will become a spam-fest-crying for merits-board.

If you read most of the topics giving-away merits, mostly all the participants don't even bother in reading the thread rules; also, I've seen how many even copy-paste whatever they consider hoping to get some merits in return.

It is not bad for these threads to be difficult to find. Maybe the effort they have to make to find them is, in fact, good.

This is not to "help beginners", it is a sale, and it doesn't belong to this board.

Is the ChardsElican28 account hacked as well?



50 merits for this phrase "You are not crazy, Trump is" (or something similar, I can't read Chinese, this is a google translator job).

Also the user ChardsElican28 doesn't seems to speak Chinesse: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1692227

EDIT. As said, the Jeremi... account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1320011 also managed to earn exactly the 100 merits required to rank-up, so it seems both accounts are into a merit trading and hacking others.

Please, mods, PERMABAN for those two (at least)>.

In my humble opinion, the thread belonged to the Beginners & help board, since it is about your personal experience and oppinion. I think it should be far more useful in there than in reputation (I can't understand why the mods moved the thread to reputation since it is not related to any kind of accusation, it is just a statement about your own perception). Meta also seems ok, I don't get why they moved it to reputation...


Me too. I suppose, when the time comes to discuss such matters (well, it is already in here), we will still have the Serious Discussion, if it is able to survive to the new whale of stupid threads.  On the "legal" childboard we have had some good discussions already regarding the poloniex issue, the new regulations, etc. The problem is that this is a Bitcoin Discussion's childboard, and maybe you have it ignored ('??). Anyway, the good topics are always getting lost in between al the crappy ones in the child too.

Probably. I was just curious about the "most expensive plan" https://www.fiverr.com/seo_optimizers/bump-up-your-bitcointalk-thread-using-high-rank
They assure they have more than 200 accounts and some of the "high ranks".

Whatever, you are probably right. By looking for more info, I've just run into sites like this one: https://www.seoclerk.com/job/Article-Writing/56597/Bitcointalk-comments-storm
Notice: "comments storm", what an appropriate name!!!

So... this is kind of easy to see that the selling comments issue is happening everywhere.

Good catch. It will be useful to try to buy his services and discover what accounts he's actually using. I was truly surprised. Are they hacked accounts? Or maybe old ones in disuse? Perhaps bought ones?
I'm aware of the multiple uses of the forum to SEO services, but this is going too far. Maybe the solution is to buy one of the services and get all those accounts banned.

Jajaja, you are absolutely right. Maybe it just desperation, but you know, this is terrible to spend some time in here and to find more and more difficult to engage in a real discussion due to the state of the forum.
The merit system is working, from my point of view, for it absolutely encourages some good members to rank-up and do their best. But, also, there is the well-known spam problem having place, each day worse than the previous one.
We have an average of 500 new users per day. Probably the 90% of them are only seeking to earn some (some others just bots), not to learn or discuss the forum or the crypto world. I agree with some kind of "effort" is necessary for them to can earn something, for actually, the system is out of control, and mostly all the new users are just trying to post whatever, even if they are unable to speak the language.

Now, I don't like "social classes", I don't believe that a new one is strictly worst than and senior member: they are some good new users. But maybe it is time to be realistic. We can try to encourage others to become a good "citizen" in here, to contribute to the forum, and we are doing it by meriting those who try their best. But there is a reality in here: they are few. The ones willing to give a shit are few in comparison with the ones with no interest in the forum but in their "earnings".
As a product, we are all seeing how the boards are getting lost in between bumping-nonsense quotes, and to enroll a good debate is impossible by now in some of them.
So, if by encouraging and meriting the people we have achieved nothing, what can we do? I would like to see a good forum with clean boards with a nice debate, discussion, information, et all in there. But it is not happening (maybe utopic, but why it should be utopic?)
So, what to do, then? I don't like prohibitions too, truly, I don't. But what can be done? To leave the forum to die in between all the crap we have to read every single day?

This thread is on the wrong board. Please move it to the altcoin announcements one, the button "move" is on the lower-left of the thread

Yep, I've already proposed to need 5 merits to become Jr Member, for it will ease the number of shitposter or bots joining bounties and spamming all over the forum.


Yeh, we talked about something similar weeks ago, in my case the proposal was about a newbie jail in where they need some number of merits to become junior and leave the jail. Since Theymos doesn't seem to like the idea (probably because the last time it was a total failure), maybe the jail is not necessary.
Even if the jail is too much, by asking for some merits to become junior probably it will be easy to get rid of many shitposters, at least on the bounties. The issue also is that many bounties are accepting newbies, even brand new users, in their campaigns. So, in addition to the merit implementation for newbies to become junior, I would suggest that the bounties maybe should stop accepting brand new and newbies.
5 merits is a bit of effort, and if you are a "normal" user (considering normal as someone interested in grow-up in here, or at least, interest on the crypto world), you should be able to have them in less than a month. Of course, newbies in a need of merits will create a whole new specimen., the "forever newbie", in substitution of the actuals "forever juniors". So, as far as newbies can join airdrops and bounties, it doesn't have any sense, it is only going to change the name of the specimens.