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6421  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 25, 2012, 06:36:29 PM
If something can be both moral in immoral at the same time, that's pretty much the end of this. Since if you say X is immoral, that means nothing. It's a null statement.
6422  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Census on: October 25, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
Useless. There are way more bitcoiner than people on this forum...

If we spread the word about the Census then almost every bitcoiner will take part in it. At least we'll see if bitcoiners are a community.

How do you know what proportion will participate. All you can do is work out a lower limit (and maybe not even that).
6423  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [Idea] Trade Anonymity for Trust on: October 25, 2012, 06:25:38 PM
What do you think about a site allows users to attach identity to a bitcoin address? It allows users to trade anonymity for trust. One could verify different pieces of identity such as email, phone, facebook account, physical address, id, etc... and earn a score for what they verify. The information would be kept secret while the score could be looked up by anyone. A buyer could see that "oh, this btc address has verified their home address with this third party, so I can find out where he or she lives should I get ripped off." Would you use this service to look up btc addresses? Or use it to verify your address if it allowed you access to better rates or trusted merchants? What about if you earned some BTC for each point of identity attached?

I was just thinking of something like this myself. I think it would be a great idea but you're right, exactly how much information to release and who to would be the big issue. Maybe the receiving user would choose to allow their information to be divulged to the sending user before the transfer by use of the UI.
6424  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [BETA] Bitcoin blockchain torrent on: October 25, 2012, 06:20:35 PM
We will work around this in the next release of the bitcoin client.
Theoretically it would be sufficient to replace "unsigned int" and "fseek" by "fpos_t" and "fsetpos". But because of "CAutoFile" and "FILE *" mixing the actual fix may be quite complex.

It's been a while since I ran into a similar issue myself but if I recall correctly, it was pretty much a drop-in fix.
6425  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 25, 2012, 05:55:20 PM
2. Laws are created by people, and cannot violate the constitution.

Admit it. You just wrote that for the lulz.
6426  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 11:53:05 PM
Question: If Germany had developed a nuke, would stealing Hitler's* suitcase which contains the activation code be immoral?




*(Apologies to hoteliers. Damn autocorrect)
6427  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
You can go with the old standard e.g.; it is moral because god is on my side,
Even Jesus told people to pay their taxes to the emperor in Rome.  This was very controversial at the time.  The Romans did not hesitate to use force to make people pay their taxes.  Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's.  He had a clear understanding of property rights.

They s was more about god than Caesar
6428  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
It wasn't rhetoric?  Of course it isn't moral. If you think it is moral, and it is important to you, you should move to a property (country) where mugging is allowed.
If I put on a costume, for example, this one, or one like it, does that make it OK for me to steal from people?
No, it is still illegal.  Breaking the law is not OK and not moral.
OK, Which brings us to the next point.

We've ruled out voting, costumes, and benefits. You seem hung up on the law. So, if we were to make slavery legal, would that make it moral?

What if they made morality illegal?
6429  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet on: October 24, 2012, 08:36:32 PM
It is a trust issue.  If you know a source for a live CD with the Bitcoin software already installed that can be trusted to NOT have put in other stuff...

noids come in pairs you know.

I guess one option would be for some kind soul to put together a live CD but include scripts which download and install the bitcoin software onto a known-good(ish) live-cd so that some others can verify that it's a good CD. You can then choose to either create the CD yourself or trust that if there was something up, someone would have found it.
6430  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet on: October 24, 2012, 07:00:01 PM

Like the live cd, your "wallet" is NOT on the disk (in this case image).  Any traces of it are disposed of when reverting to a snapshot.  Unlike the live cd, you only have to install the bitcoin software once.  If you really know your stuff, install the software and create your own live-cd with it.


Ah, so basically an alternative to the live CD. Though I would assume that a useful live *would* have the software installed.
6431  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 06:51:49 PM

We've already ruled out majority consensus as legitimizing theft. I'm isolating each factor to see which one it is that makes it moral.

True enough. I guess it's just been so long since you asked the question and no one has answered it that I just forgot.
6432  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: HOWTO: create a 100% secure wallet on: October 24, 2012, 04:38:48 PM
A big fan of VM's myself, how about getting a VM (Used to use VMWare, but VirtualBox fan these days) of your favourite distro up and running, install all of the necessary software, take a "snapshot" of it (shut down is safer, but you can "snapshot" a running VM).  Do your wallet transactions inside the VM after booting it up, transfer the file to cd/usb stick/whatever..., shut down the VM reverting to snapshot.  Then you won't be needing to install the software every time, but you still get the benefit of having a system which doesn't actually contain your wallet.  If you are extremely paranoid, download the software installs separately and install them in the VM while not connected to the web.

I'm not sure what the VM gains you.
6433  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
If you were true to your Libertarian principles, you would respect my non-answer. Grin
Why should I give legitimacy to your analogy by voting one way or the other? Tongue

I guess I should expect no different from someone who uses "blahblahblah" as their username... I'm done talking to you until you answer whether or not a mugger becomes moral when he promises to spend some of the money on the mugged.

I take objection to your example.

You should have *two* muggers. Then they can clearly come to a majority consensus over the use of your money.
6434  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: here's just how screwed ASIC buyers are - READ THIS if you have a preorder on: October 24, 2012, 03:41:04 PM

A good investor however should look at all possible outcomes.

There's really no reason to think they'll use the ASICs to mine (for profit) any more than you'd expect your car dealer to take your car on a trip to Mexico before they deliver it to you.
6435  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Which is the fastest miner? on: October 24, 2012, 03:39:05 PM
6436  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama issues executive order claiming power to seize Americans' bank accounts on: October 24, 2012, 04:26:03 AM

You do not understand much about healthcare.  There is much to be gained by streamlining and diagnosing early.  The worst part of all is RIGHT NOW we are ALL PAYING to care for those who do not have insurance.  It is done in the ER and the cost is passed on to you in higher healthcare costs.  UNLESS YOU TURN PEOPLE AWAY TOTALLY YOU WILL PAY THIS COST. 


Please provide some data on that. From what I have seen almost all of the money goes towards chronic conditions for those over 55. ER bills are nothing compared to that.

I heard (though I can't guarantee it's veracity) that the cost of screening everyone for everything they might have (but don't) far outweighs the potential savings. Of course, it'd be nice for the individuals to get early treatment and not die horribly but in terms of sheer economics, it's a policy that pushes the cost of healthcare up (and we have nowhere near enough healthcare providers for it anyway).
6437  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Obama issues executive order claiming power to seize Americans' bank accounts on: October 24, 2012, 04:19:38 AM
And to-date, I have never met an intelligent, college educated, "liberal" who joined the ranks of the "real world" and turned conservative.

Pleased to make your acquaintance.
6438  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Which is the fastest miner? on: October 24, 2012, 04:04:56 AM
Uh... Im sorry to say this but practically NO laptop is going to beable to mine,

Not necessarily true Cheesy



*(I have no idea if this works for mining).
6439  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why are people scared of taxes? on: October 24, 2012, 03:58:38 AM
Not every market can be an effective free market.

Cool. Let's start with you list absolutely anything you can think of that you feel cannot be a free market and that the government absolutely must be involved in and then let's get the government out of everything else. Then we can talk again.

Well, for starters, any service that is controlled by large interests. We all see how well OPEC can make us sweat.

What? OPEC *is* government(s). Just not ours.
6440  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Uncle Sam Prepares To Unleash Up To 30000 Drones Over America For "Public Safety on: October 24, 2012, 03:57:20 AM
Between 3d printing and the technology and skills available to the average consumer, it might be interesting to see AI piloted "drone killers" make an appearance. Then the drones will evolve to fight back and before you know it, it's Skynet all over again
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