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6441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: December 08, 2017, 06:11:27 AM
Another tough loss by the Thunder tonight, they are really unreliable on the road and they loss against the Brooklyn Nets, what a shame?
Westbrook and Anthony are shooting like crazy, Westbrook 10-27 (37%) and Melo    5-20 (25%), I think they really need Paul George because he shoots well than this two combined.
6442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Suretly - first crowdvouching platform ★ ICO is over ★ on: December 08, 2017, 05:58:09 AM
Suretly November Report is already on our blog! https://goo.gl/ahQ6yH

Clap if you like it so we could know what information you find valuable!
Thanks for the update.
Just as you put it, November has been an intense month for the Suretly team.
I am glad to see that you made big progress in developing, partner, marketing, etc.
I am more confident about Suretly than ever.

Good to know, thank you

I think this is not a good year for us, we will be force to hold because the value is very cheap, just keep on developing this project dev and we will just sit back and watch it, I'm hoping that early next year we will hear announcement about new big exchanges, we need more investors so the moment we have big updates, this will bring the price back up.
6443  Economy / Economics / Re: Holdings of gold vs Holdings of btc on: December 08, 2017, 04:43:47 AM
I actually prefer to hold bitcoin, because I believe bitcoin prices will rise and be very high this time. bitcoin has a higher chance to grow in the future, so if you ant to hold something to increase your money for the future that should be bitcoin.
Holding bitcoin is more value able than holding Gold because the value of bitcoin rising in faster way but gold value is considered to be stable due to its normal up & down. Bitcoin holding is more secure than holding Gold
I would risk with bitcoin because I know investing with gold is not for everyone, bitcoin can give multiple folds of our money and as long as the demand keeps increasing, we can always expect the value of our holdings will increase. Let's just consider the wide market, and if we have them adopting with bitcoin then for sure it's a guaranteed success for us investors.
6444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: December 08, 2017, 04:11:38 AM
Who's with the pick of Lakers against 76ers? Do you have some insider on this? I'm not too updated with these teams since I'm focused with very few picks of mine. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what will be the better pick for this fight before betting will close.

Will not increase the risks by picking Los Angeles Lakers at Moneyline but maybe on Handicap for Lakers. Philly have been deadly this days with the aggression of Ben Simmons, Joel Embiid and the gang. Markelle Fultz reportedly back at the roster although Im not sure if he will play now against the Lakers (since he is still on out status). Back in their first meeting, we see that LA have a hard time taking the rhythm and at the end , they lose. Lonzo Ball have been crashed literally by his co-rookie Ben Simmons in terms of stats but good thing Lakers squad still forced to get a win. Nice try though.

My Pick (if for Lakers) +8 @ 1.9

Just take my own view as reference.
Nice analysis thanks for that news out there since I'm not really updated with what's happening on them. Watching the game now and let's see if this is going to be a good game for Lakers, well be watching together while having some dice on roll.
Great win for Lakers and I'm glad to place my bet using the handicap as they escaped this match with the win waiting now for the next game from Houston let see if they can cover the +4 handicap against the jazz.
It would bring you good profit if you took the moneyline, what a surprise, the last match they were really dominated but they bounce back now and win this game, it's really hard to trust a non consistent team like the Sixers. My strategy on betting a team like the sixers is I only bet when they are underdog because there is a chance that they can cover the spread or might win outright.
6445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: December 07, 2017, 04:53:46 AM
I'm going to put my mbtcs on Celtics (-7.5) vs Mavericks. Overall Boston have a better ats record the only thing that makes me nervous is that after a winning match Dallas covers 80% of the time while Boston is 70%.  Other bet that I have is the Kings +12.5 because Cavs are still bad at covering when they're at home. Celtics Kings
You lose on the Celtics vs Dallas bet with 0.5 points, not a good night but you win against the cavaliers.
Tonight I was lucky with this two teams you choose because I was able to bet on live, I took the Celtics ML at 1.90 odds and Cavaliers -4.5 at 1.95 odds, they were down early but they fought back hard in the end and they won the game.
6446  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: December 06, 2017, 05:17:07 AM
We all know that there is corruption everywhere, like in government or any other organization. Because of money, corruption can always happen with greedy people who always wants more money to them. Since bitcoin can be considered as money, can it also lead to corruption?
I think it can, and it can be very easy to happen. bitcoin transactions can be done anytime and anywhere "without going through the bank". it would be very easy to do money laundering using bitcoin.
Remember that you are using the blockchain, all transaction are transparent, never think it's untraceable and easy to do money laundering because when the government will be after you, they can  make all necessary actions to trace your transactions and will make you liable if you are proven doing illegal activities. They have the means to do it, there might be some delay but you can be trace if they do their job.
6447  Economy / Economics / Re: Where can i invest my money? on: December 06, 2017, 05:04:59 AM
There is no lack of land to invest money. But it is difficult to get the money from all the places. It is difficult under its warranty. Bitcoin is an investment zone from which money can be gained unless its value decreases.
The only risk is when the value decrease but that would not gonna happen if the progress will continue, all value decrease that we may witness are just because of the price manipulation, it's very stressful to invest in crypto because you are not in control of what is happening in the market, unlike having a business where you know your skills will bring you success, but if you are a real risk taker, you would not hesitate to invest and hold for longer period.
6448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: December 06, 2017, 01:32:10 AM
If regulations are are not taken into consideration, then Bitcoin will surely Kill Income Tax. But wait things are not going to end here is something happens to treasury of government they are likely to take some steps to resolve such conditions but then they will be left with 2 choices either imposing a ban or implementing regulations and both of which can curb the freedom of crypto users. Because a decentralized system is made in such a way that there is no need to pay any taxes or something else.

Regulations are already happening. Governments are fueled by tax, anything that threatens their income is going to be investigated. There are more and more articles for example on CoinTelegraph about governments cracking down on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Get used to it, cryptocurrencies have come from the underground into the broad daylight.
The government are trying to tax Bitcoin. As far as I know, in next week, exact day is 12/10/2017, CME will add Bitcoin on their market and this is the first time Bitcoin can add in a stock market. This is really a good way to help the government have chance to approach Bitcoin users.
It's a big news actually and one of the reason of the price surge now, we have a lot of big news in the last quarter so we can expect the price to rise even more, as bitcoin getting more popular, it will make people trust and invest on it and I know the government want their fair share, they will impose taxes on us but only up to the establishment that they covered.
6449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: December 06, 2017, 01:13:27 AM
I'm putting around $20 on this...
Raptors - Suns = Under 223.5
Thunder - Jazz = Jazz +8.5
Blazers - Wizards = Blazers -6

Potential $100.


Good luck mate, I hope you will win on your parlay bets, could you show your bet slip here?
I will not actually gonna tail on all of your bets, I am afraid the Raptors - Suns will go under because it's going to be the Raptors who will dominate this game. But anyway, good luck on your bet, I hope you are lucky tonight.
6450  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade or Hodling on: December 05, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
I recommend that if you are trading altcoins then daytrade it or either short-term because altcoins needs to be established first by proving its worth to consider that it's good for holding.
Altcoins are also a big market but due to a big number of altcoins it's hard to find a coin that has a real potential in the future, but if you really want to make money, you will make an effort to do research to get the right information that would help you in making a right decision.
Check on the https://coinmarketcap.com/, those coins that are in the top 10 are already giving a lot of profit to long term investors.
6451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Liqui.io(BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: December 05, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
-snip-
 Whats its ATH by the way?


BTC wise it was around 40K satoshi during in mid September but not sure if $ value of EDGE is the highest now or during last September.
The value was below $1.50 and now we are over so that means we have reach the new ATH, we should be happy now because we believe in this project and those who think it's a scam that is why they dump their money are sure regretting their decision. Trust is the reason why the price has gone up like this, Edgeless has a big community even though they are not so active but according to the message in the telegram, they will be active more when the full launch will start, all I can say is that wait for the ATH in satoshi because we are going to be there soon.

I see so it did reached or surpass already the previous ATH (in terms of dollar value). but do you think it will still sutpass its ATH in terms of its satoshi value? Like it will pump back until 40k satoshis?  Huh
We shall see, the end of the year still has plenty of days left and I don't think good news will come out late in December.  Currently, the ATH in satoshi was 14k and we have seen some downward trend now but the support is strong so expect that the price will rise, I've seen this before, the volume goes low and the next day it has increase again, Edgeless is a serious project, imagine the news that we will expect EOY, it's very big not to hit the ATH in satoshi.
6452  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how control my emotion?? on: December 05, 2017, 05:57:17 AM
Same thing happens to me first time I sold all my investment with a 20% loss and after some days prices recovered. From that day I learned in order to get successful trader in crypto, we must hold in free fall and everything will come back to normal.
That's the thing that we should learn, holding is the key to success but always be smart to set your own target, otherwise you will end with nothing. Holding is only good if you have an active income as well, never put all your investment for long term because it's very risky. Personally I am holding gup tokens and I am happy with the recent price pump, but this is not enough for me to decide to sell and take profit.
6453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ETT]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: December 05, 2017, 05:39:49 AM
So nothing has changed about officially having tokens on both WAVES and ETH?

RE: https://medium.com/@encryptotel/encryptotel-why-waves-and-why-ethereum-fe3bc7955f1e

Good price on $ETT eth right now if so.
Still nothing. I hope there will be more changes but it cones with good announcements this coming Q1 so we xan expect a good prise rise with that matter.
The price improvement was just for awhile, we cannot say that people are already investing with ETT because if you look at the https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/encryptotel-eth/, the volume was still very low, less than $20,000 24 hours trading volume is not good for me, I want 100 bitcoins to convince myself that our investment is growing.

Look at https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/deeponion/, this is just a project who gives an airdrop but they have an increasing volume, I mean can we also improve our community? let's make it more active.

Encryptotel and Deeponion have a different current situation right now, ETT is a dual-chain coin that makes them hard to list on a major exchange because the swap solution is still pending for almost half a year. You will notice that all dual-chain coin is now sucked at listing that result on low trading volume. But I heard that swap solution will be finished within this month and maybe this will the game changer for this coin but without swap solution, I'm still out for this even how many partnerships they had.  Grin
You are right, I think one good example is the Mobilego, it was one of the successful project who raised a significant amount during the ICO but until now it cannot attract great volume, if what you are saying will happen soon then we can expect for this project who are using 2 platforms to rise. Maybe it's good to take a risk now since the value is very low, just don't invest a lot because it's a big gamble.
6454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: December 05, 2017, 02:22:42 AM
Addictions are bad for the wealth,  is not a way of life as many people around may think.
Nobody aim to be addicted in gambling, actually it's a negative and something that we should avoid, even how smart we are but when we will be able to experience that gambling addiction, we will surely gonna live our life miserably. Time should be manage properly as well as our finances but that addiction inside of us will ruin everything, I'm hoping that we will be all responsible in gambling.
6455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Liqui.io(BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: December 05, 2017, 02:02:47 AM
-snip-
 Whats its ATH by the way?


BTC wise it was around 40K satoshi during in mid September but not sure if $ value of EDGE is the highest now or during last September.
The value was below $1.50 and now we are over so that means we have reach the new ATH, we should be happy now because we believe in this project and those who think it's a scam that is why they dump their money are sure regretting their decision. Trust is the reason why the price has gone up like this, Edgeless has a big community even though they are not so active but according to the message in the telegram, they will be active more when the full launch will start, all I can say is that wait for the ATH in satoshi because we are going to be there soon.
6456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ☘☘☘☘ Edgeless EDG Tokens On Liqui.io(BLACKJACK BETA LIVE)☘☘☘☘ on: December 04, 2017, 09:56:14 AM
Hey fellas, with the continuing increase of Edgeless I think we were able to break the ATH already.
Based on the https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/edgeless/ the ATH was $1.42 on 38k satoshis and now the 24 hours high as per bittrex record was  BTC 0.0001265 which I think already over $1.42 with the present price of bitcoin. I like this one honestly, and all our patience has paid off because we are going to see 2 big announcement at the end of the year. For those who were not able to follow, we will have Full launch and License by the EOY.
6457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO]FAST INVEST - Real FinTech Business, More Than 8500 Customers, 50 Team on: December 04, 2017, 05:58:20 AM
Finally the campaign is running, this will help spread awareness to people who are looking for a good investment.
As I support this project through joining a campaign, I might also consider investing in the ICO because this project is hard to pass on.

Very interesting project because all in one single platform, honestly, I did not find any similar platform to those who are running also an ICO with digital banking project, I am confident this is going to be a sold out project, so it's good to participate early.
6458  Economy / Services / Re: FastInvest Signature Campaign on: December 04, 2017, 05:40:23 AM
I like to participate yahooo, please count me in.

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6459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 NBA Season on: December 04, 2017, 02:29:05 AM
I'm currently watching Oklahoma against Spurs, better this second quarter
Spurs isn't playing with the whole crew, I can't believe  OCT is only over 4 points with this alternative team.
I think Spurs willing to go for the game on 3d and 4th quarter.
It's a close game, and I think the Thunder will win this game, low scoring game should favor the Spurs here but they lack power in the 4th quarter, the had a good run actually in the 3rd quarter but they did not dominate the OKC in the 4th. Let's see what happen, I think spurs will cover.
6460  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: December 04, 2017, 02:15:32 AM
Bitcoin, value is eighteen times more volatile than cash money.
Bitcoin keeps going from strength to strength, that's different with cash money.
Bitcoin became more stable than  cash money.
Bitcoin is the biggest, and best-known.
Bitcoin is just new, cash has been around for many years and people are satisfied using it, I don't think bitcoin will be more popular than cash in the future. They have their own advantage, bitcoin can be use online as a currency or a payment system and it can also be an investment if you are willing to take risks. It's up to us actually, we have our won comparison but one thing is certain, is that they are both useful.
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