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6461  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-02]Bitcoin’s Price Moon Bound Breaking $1400 and Climbing on: May 03, 2017, 10:07:54 AM
This is not known only to those people who never use bitcoin. They generally believe in all sorts of stupidity about the cryptocurrency.

Then you're not aware of how low the average IQ here on this forum is. Even legendary members of this forum have opted for Bitcoin to increase its coin cap as 21M coins isn't enough for mass usagage, according to them. There is no need for people to know everything from the deeper technical side, but at least know the basics - that's not too much to ask for, right? Main reason for that is probably that they only care about the price, where they completely ignore every aspect of Bitcoin as technology.
6462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin To Soon Reach $1700 on: May 03, 2017, 09:49:14 AM
we can not tell if its a bubble or natural growth but the bitcoin price keeps going up without resistance and we are more likely to breach the


Current price is overbought, that's for sure. Natural growth takes a reasonable amount of time to reflect in the price, and currently, you can't really talk about natural growth. It's pure speculation and a few other factors that might play an important role. It might be that certain market movers and other traders take positions into Bitcoin because of the ETF review this month that they highly value. It might be Bitfinex traders desperately buying BTC at all cost to cash out their funds.
6463  Economy / Speculation / Re: HODLING IS GOOD on: May 02, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
The only problem with holding coins is that you might be hindering Bitcoin adoption by doing so.
What a nonsense. People holding their coins play a very important role as they greatly contribute towards the current price. People holding means that their coins are off the market, and thus there are less tradable coins available on exchanges. In current times, it results in the price to go up as the demand increases, where the availability of coins is decreasing as more people are willing to hold their coins. See anyone complaining about current price?

When people won't use their coins to buy goods or services then how businesses will know that bitcoin is popular and embrace it?
Merchants don't embrace Bitcoin. They embrace third party payment processors that do everything for them.

If this situation continue then in the future everyone will be owning BTC but nobody will be using it.
Again, more people holding results in a higher eventual price. Just to note, regardless of the price, people will continue to use Bitcoin. Usage is more than only people spending their coins in online stores...
6464  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-05-02]Bitcoin’s Price Moon Bound Breaking $1400 and Climbing on: May 02, 2017, 10:28:08 PM
Coin cap in various units.
2,100,000,000,000,000 satoshis.
21,000,000,000,000 Bits.
21,000,000,000 mBTC.
21,000,000 BTC.

Not everyone is aware of Bitcoin's divisibility. They know that they can send like 0.1BTC, but they purely look at it as being one tenth of a coin. I quite often see people state that Bitcoin's fixed 21M coin cap will be a problem when a larger portion of the world will start using Bitcoin on a massive scale. They completely ignore (due to the lack of knowledge) that Bitcoin is easily divisible in plenty of smaller chunks/units. It's a basic thing that everyone should know, but obviously, that's not the case.
6465  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the long term outlook for bitcoin price, for 2020 and beyond? on: May 02, 2017, 12:08:19 PM
Roger Ver will be as relevant as the number of coins he has, and if he chooses to dump them, then more power to him. I think quite a few people will be just happy to jump at this opportunity and buy his coins when the price flash crashes after he sells his stash of bitcoins (though I sincerely doubt whether he is actually going to sell anything).
Roger Ver has been offered to trade his Bitcoins for BU coins at the time a hard fork has been initiated, but of course, he never responded - which is more or less the same as simply saying no. In that regard, it's safe to assume that he will never sell his Bitcoins. Mainly because of the fact that his wealth (according to various articles, it is in the range of a few hundred thousand BTC) is exactly that what gives him his power.

Again, Jihan Wu will likely also lose some of his influence between miners as well as miners themselves will be less relevant with the introduction of first SegWit and then Lightning Network
Correct, but as long as he accounts for a large percentage of the total network, he will remain an important factor in the whole picture. Him and Ver combined makes a very powerful duo. In that regard, even with SW and LN activated, they will remain forming a massive obstable.
6466  Economy / Speculation / Re: $2000 anyone? on: May 02, 2017, 11:20:06 AM
I can't believe bitcoin pump so much this morning I'm so shock when i see the price of the bitcoin for today this is a real blessing for us . hoping we could hit 1500 tomorrow and don't experience a big crash because of the bitcoin price pump too much. i think $2000 per bitcoin we will be hitting that price before this month end.

Calm down! Yes, the price goes up in a rapid pace, but at some point the train will run out of steam, and the price will come down to more appropriate levels as result. It's pure panic buying that is happening right now. People will jump on board regardless of the price, just to own themselves a few coins and benefit from a potential further increase. In that regard, the price may very well go up higher from this point, but surely not enough to touch the $2000 level this month. I don't even think it will happen next month.
6467  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC dominance decreasing. on: May 02, 2017, 11:03:47 AM
i think it's because of etheruem, without etheruem you have the same tiny marketcap for altcoin, remove etheruem and try again you see that i'm right, dash also pose a threat but much smaller, it come down to ethereum versus bitcoin other coins have a useless marketcap, but there are many of them and it's true that their value is higher than before, there are more investors now than 2013-2014

It doesn't make any sense to discard Ethereum - even not for example purposes. It's there, and it accounts for a more than decent part of the total crypto market cap. Obviously, it has turned out to be a massively rewarding investment if you jumped on board on time, but I feel seriously bad for people entering Ethereum at current prices. It can't and won't go up endlessly. It's a coin from which the far majority of the circulating coins are in the hands of a very few entities, collaborating with each other. Of course, as long as the price goes up, people won't care, but at some point these people will get burned HARD.
6468  Economy / Economics / Re: What is the long term outlook for bitcoin price, for 2020 and beyond? on: May 02, 2017, 09:57:31 AM
I suspect that Bitcoin Unlimited will likely die but that is not carved in stone either.

Bitcoin Unlimited will likely end up drying out, but the problem isn't exactly the proposed alternative sides, but more the people behind them. Poisenous, but at the same time quite influential individuals such as Roger Ver and Jihan Wu will not just drop their hidden agendas. If Bitcoin Unlimited isn't it, then they will come up with something else. Especially when you consider that they have no problems with holding Bitcoin's growth back to nurse their own ego and toxic ideology.
6469  Economy / Speculation / Re: sub 1000 gone forever on: May 02, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
Never say never. It's Bitcoin that we're talking about after all. But the chances of going back to sub $1000 levels are slimming down more and more. It won't take long before we see a correction take place - it simply can't go up endlessly. My prediction when things cool down is that we'll more or less settle around the $1200 level for a while. Imagine how people must feel that have liquidated their coins around $1000 as they were afraid of a potential hard fork. Grin
6470  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-30]India’s Government May Be Preparing to Legalize and Regulate Bitcoin on: May 02, 2017, 09:08:37 AM
Since Bitcoin is anonymous, no government will be able to get the user and present him any claims or claims. Only in case of legalization in my opinion all this bravado benefits will end.

It all depends. People tend to take Bitcoin's 'anonymous' nature a bit too serious. Nowadays, most exchanges require their users to fully verify themselves in order to keep using that exchange, where some exchanges even tend to freeze all your funds till you have done so. Every coin you withdraw from such exchange will have your information tied to it, and from there the exchange can basically follow everything you do. It might not sound like it is a big problem at first glance, but it will be when governments force exchanges to hand them over all user details. Everything at that point can, and will be used against you. Especially if becomes clear that you haven't been paying any tax, that you have spent your coins on illegal goods, etc. That's why I always advice people that if they happen to withdraw coins from an exchange, to run them through a mixer. It of course won't guarantee you 100% privacy, but it greatly contributes towards something close to that.
6471  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-09-12] Tim Draper: Bitcoin’s Price Still Headed to $10k on: May 02, 2017, 08:42:10 AM
you guys make one mistake,all of you
you value bitcoin in USD

It's because the majority of the people only care about the value in USD as they will cash out their coins at some point. I am fairly sure that these people account for +95% of the total userbase of Bitcoin. I can't really blame them for that as they treat Bitcoin as an investment tool with the intention of seeing their fiat wealth increase eventually. Everything you do with Bitcoin gets directly tied to the value in USD - how will you convince people to not think like that?
6472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ANY BTC HOLDER WORST NIGHTMARE, and it happened to me... on: May 01, 2017, 10:37:58 AM
I will advise all the members to use most protected systems for your BTC. It is very panic to face such a situation.

It surely helps, but even the best antivirus and malware software won't be sufficient enough to keep all threats out of your system. In order to prevent your cold wallet coins from being exposed to these dangers, you should have the private keys engraved on a metal bar. Private keys should never be stored on your hard drive, or even worse, in cloud storage. As long as you do that, your coins will be completely safe. However, problem is that the majority of the people create their private keys on *potentially* compromised systems. No matter how much security steps you walk through after that, the one moment where your private keys were unprotected are enough to grant someone else long life access to your coins.

If you are paranoid when it comes to the security of your coins, and no, that's not weird, take a look at https://bitkey.io/ it's free to use. Wink
6473  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-29]Markets Update: Bitcoin Price Rise Climbs to Uncharted Territory on: May 01, 2017, 09:47:42 AM
This increase is sustainable.

To a certain extent that might be true, but we can't just assume that the market will continue to go up without experiencing some pull backs. If speculators get the impression that the momentum is slowly fading away, then they won't hesitate to cash out a large portion of their profits, resulting in a correction. Honestly, I don't think we are very far away from reaching that point. I say the top for now will be $1400 to MAX $1450, where after that a correction will happen. I use Bitstamp as reference exchange.
6474  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-30]India’s Government May Be Preparing to Legalize and Regulate Bitcoin on: May 01, 2017, 09:23:05 AM
What happened to the anti-bitcoin politician (forgot his name), seems he is very vocal about his stance against bitcoin and went as far as saying is bitcoin is used for Ponzi scheme?

Maybe India's U-turn is another good news for bitcoin users their specially the general public. We all know that their is demonetization in India right now and I don't know when the government will end it, so adopting bitcoin will be a good alternative as a store of value for our Indian enthusiast.
It's truly amazing how bitcoin is changing the financial landscape of a lot of nation globally. And maybe this is another step for bitcoin to be truly recognizes around the world.

I wouldn't take this too seriously. In a mild form, this is basically going to be the same as what has been happening in Russia. One day Bitcoin is great and everything, where in the next month or two they plan to heavily restrict Bitcoin. People will use Bitcoin regardless of what regulations are being put in place. Bitcoin's decentralized nature allows people to operate and transact outside the banking and governmental system. I personally don't give a single damn about whatever regulations governments put in place. I am not paying (and not going to do so in the future) tax over my coins. I am not reporting any of my holdings, even though I don't directly need to pay tax, etc. I am the boss over my wealth in Bitcoin - no one can tell me what to do.
6475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who wants these Bitcoin scaling wars to end? on: April 30, 2017, 10:19:47 PM
fee are still cheap and will be still cheap if bitcoin price will double. This is a fact. And dont say anyone that 0.50$-2$ fee is a high price to transfer money around the world without the needing of the banking system and in many cases completely anonymous.
Is up to miners and to bitcoin ecosystem if they want to keep bitcoin as it is or if they want to do more innovation. And i dont think so that is a good strategy for miners to be against bitcoin developers and bitcoin community.

In most cases it are the faucet farmers that are being the loudest when it comes to complaining about the fees. In order to generate a dozen K's of satoshi's, they probably spend a whole day farming their way through every possible faucet. In order to use their 'dust' they have to include a fee that is double or even tripple in amount, just to move these coins. Cheesy It's actually very simple, complaining doesn't work, which directly pops up three options for people - 1) to include proper fees according to the network situation. 2) to remain stingy where you have to swallow all the hours of waiting time. 3) choose another coin for sending and receiving transactions. Just QUIT complaining!!
6476  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC ETF SEC APPROVED on MAY 15th on: April 30, 2017, 09:46:57 PM
Has anything changed since the last time it was rejected? 

Absolutely nothing. People just like to grab something to hold on to in the hope that the price will increase further than it has done already. It's pure greed. It's funny how people after the rejection say that Bitcoin doesn't need an ETF, that it didn't have any impact on the price, etc, while they now think it will give the price a massive boost. People here are nothing more than a bunch of sheeps. They are just following each other because they don't know what to do or think themselves.
BS. An ETF means more $ flowing into BTC. Fact. So it would a good for the price short term. BTC doesnt need an ETF because its doing fine without it.

Read properly! Did I say it wouldn't have a positive effect on the price? Or that the ETF is no good? I was just stating what others are saying. I have always been a fan and a supporter of an ETF as this will allow institutional money to flow into Bitcoin. It's a big deal, but the sheeps I was referring to didn't see any value in this ETF back then, but now they suddenly do. It's a complete 360 shift.
6477  Economy / Speculation / Re: [UPDATE] $1,400 HITTED (Next goal is $1,500) on: April 30, 2017, 09:29:12 PM
I now think that $1500 is hittable but I have doubt we can do it in the next 30 days.
Good thing is that there is no need to rush things. If it takes 3 months to reach the $1500 level on non inflated exchanges, then it's fine as well. Wink

To really push it we need another goods new to boost its price to $1500.
The price isn't good news driven anymore as was the case years ago. It's the demand that largely makes the price go up, and speculators jump on it as they see that there is good money to be made. Result of that is that the price will go down at some point as speculators will cash out their profits. It's all part of the market. In that regard, realistically, it should settle around the $1200-$1300 mark for a while.
6478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Looks like we have set a new ATH at $1,377 on: April 30, 2017, 11:18:25 AM
Speculators are going ape shit on a rally. Remember in 2010-11 when speculators blew gold up from $1,050 to over $1,900, then it went right back down to $1,050? When you look at the Bitcoin price think gold 2.0.

Not sure about that, gold has been around & been traded for centuries. Bitcoin is relatively new & has a far, far higher potential for huge growth than gold.

You don't get his point. It's the speculation that's the main driver for the price as Bitcoin is still a speculative investment option. In that regard, despite the potential that Bitcoin has, the price can easily go down HARD as easily as it goes up HARD. Bitcoin is basically Gold 2.0, and both assets are being used to hedge whatever people think will make them lose out big time. In case of Bitcoin, many aspects offer speculators a massive feeding ground.
6479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin can reach 3000 USD in a year ? on: April 30, 2017, 10:20:35 AM
$3000 is just not possible, the price will grow little by little so if the price grows about $20 each month, its still not going to be enough to reach that 3000. It will only be possible if ETF will be approved, they were saying its been reviewed again. Assuming it will be approved, all of us will celebrating.

This ETF review is getting taken far too serious by people. It's just the SEC looking through everything to make sure they haven't missed anything that may have lead to them potentially unfairly rejecting it not that long ago. It's funny that at the time the ETF was rejected people were saying that it didn't matter because there is no need for an ETF, and now there is even a 0.01% chance of approval, people miraculously see huge potential in this ETF. Roll Eyes
6480  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2017-04-28] South Korean Bitcoin Exchange Suffers $5 Million Hack on: April 30, 2017, 10:03:58 AM
Stupid? That's for sure.

It all depends on how they set things up. It's also not clear how the 'hackers' managed to gain access to the hot wallets. It's an article that says hackers managed to attack the four hot wallets - which literally provides no useful information. Assuming this was indeed a hack, and not an inside job, the way they have set everything up didn't contribute a single bit to their overall security. It's not only amateurish, but it also shows their incompetence. This is exactly why I always withdraw all my coins after every trading session.
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