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6481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: June 14, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
People should use auto-bet bots just to avoid hit every time keyboard keys or mouse buttons not to make them gamble while they're doing other tasks.

Cant blame people for this because dice sites are extremely boring, with just a single click then the result of the roll will be shown . What makes people stay in a dice sites is the community of the sites therefore to avoid this boredom people use autobet so that they could roll while chatting with the others  Smiley

Gamblers should be able to terminate their auto-bet if they reach the winning limit they or they reach their maximum lose one or even if other unexpected circumstances arose.

Some dice sites autobet feature doesnt implement this feature though but eventhough there are a feature in the autobet to stop loss if you reach a certain amount of BTC lost, people are unwilling to use it because most are falling into delusion that their autobet will keep on winning it

Ye it might be boring but using bots is stupid, at least in my opinion
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Lets be honest, dice is a stupid game, its not fun,

Another reason will be because using bots ease your way in martingale-ing. It would be harder to martingale manually and that is the reason people are using it (and lose with the martingale strategy)
To be honest yes, dice is not fun at all. As I have describe what more important is the community of the sites and thats what keep people coming back into the sites which you can check at PrimeDice that most people are still playing or chatting despite that they have lost alot there

6482  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 14, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
We dont need another altcoin stuff such as POS. You should go and tell your idea of this in bitcoin discussion section and Im sure you will be getting alot of negatives comment

i know, and i don't like the idea myself, but there is no better alternatives, for a secure investments with bitcoin, only pos can guarantee it at this point

"BTC itself is an investment itself" however with the price being manipulated and keep on declining that slogan would be a sweet dream instead. Actually my point of view will be towards on how secure you can keep your money in form of BTC , ability to secure your possesion for me is a far better investment then any other form of investment

Constantly keeping your money in form of BTC and put them in the wallet makes you safe from inflation indeed but you forgot that each day the price of BTC is declining and thats makes you lose the value of BTC that you bought

Someone has just lost over $15,000 because of the decline of BTC as he had 40 BTC which used to worth over $25,000 and now it's worth less than $10,000 - so keeping money in BTC is not safe.

Here is his story:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973092.0


the chances that this will happen again are far lower then when it was manipulated for reaching that 1200 ath

it should be much safer to invest now in bitcoin then in the 1200, but not because i now, i know that there wasn't a dump after it, but because it is far easy to sustain the current price

This is exactly what people said when we are hanging on $600 mark for quite some time, everyone said that this is the footstep that will hold but unfortunately the price keep on going down . It is still pretty unclear currently, I would suggest to look into BTC as an investment after the next halving or atleast some time before the next halving
6483  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 14, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
Banning it will not stop anything actually, it will just force BTC to step into underground pace. The same thing with drugs and stuff, it is illegal in most countries but that dont stop people from using or distributing it. Although this would means that BTC will be acknowledge at something similar of "criminal related stuff" or so

So, we can say the bitcoin will be so hard to developed to be adopted in the country as I told before. If bitcoin is be banned by government, the shop online is too.

Corrected some parts of it, if you mean that chances for BTC to be adopted gonna be lower then yes

To be honest that a fault from the BTC user. Media play a role in reporting a case which unfortunately the case is about someone using BTC to purchase some illegal things i.e silkroad. Its not the media that ruin BTC but it is the BTC user that ruin it, most people will now see BTC as a criminal related stuff due to all this negative publicity

I think media seems like to exaggerated crime news related bitcoin. I don't know whether it just my feeling or it's an action of some parties behind it that don't like bitcoin.

Actually there are no evidence about this yet . Some government banned BTC but also some support it , so It is pretty unclear if the negative publicity for BTC was given by the government to surpressed BTC however some government has no rights to control the media in their country though.

Also that a crime related news seems to be getting more attention from the people so that could be another reason on why media keep on exposing BTC with the bad news .
6484  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 14, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
Constantly keeping your money in form of BTC and put them in the wallet makes you safe from inflation indeed but you forgot that each day the price of BTC is declining and thats makes you lose the value of BTC that you bought

Someone has just lost over $15,000 because of the decline of BTC as he had 40 BTC which used to worth over $25,000 and now it's worth less than $10,000 - so keeping money in BTC is not safe.

Here is his story:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973092.0


Due to this volatile market, keeping your money in form of BTC as an investment is actually not a good idea. In the end it will be the same as keeping FIAT that suffering from inflation (difference would be BTC is much more secure in keeping your money in banks). It will be another different story however if the market is stable which unfortunately it is not going to happen anytime sooner

Everyone has been saying that if you want to be a Bitcoin pioneer, then get ready to lose money, because the volatility will be extreme.

I ditched this statements as I was a trader few months ago and It is not my nature to lose money. It is the fault of those people who thinks that keeping BTC for 10 years would gain them some profit as they are going into delusion that anything could happen to BTC in 10 years timeframe while as a trader you could keep on gaining some by riding on this volatile wave
6485  Economy / Economics / Re: Will a bank being hacked boost adoption of bitcoin? on: June 14, 2015, 01:17:57 PM
Even if they want to , they cant because its in the nature of BTC that it cant be regulated. Unfortunately there are quiet few "potential investor" in BTC because BTC isnt viewed as investment for common people and mostly it is viewed as some kinda stocks for a quickswing in profit

To be honest, this low price is one of the reason that most people arent taking their attention into BTC yet, I would like a stable price but to boost adoption into BTC sadly a higher price is needed so that more people could see this as a potential


How do the Bitcoin investors who though BTC was 'safe' at levels of $600 feel now that it lost more than half of its value?
If you were in their shoes would you still view it in that way?


They lose almost 2/3 of it actually. Most have jumped off the sinking ship unfortunately but it is not a new things to hear. Basically alot has suffer at $1200 bubble, considering there are alot that buy at almost the peak point which means that they are losing alot on it.

It cant be helped anyway due to this volatility that this price decline will keep on happening in the future as well. With That being said , regarding the title of this thread even if a bank is hacked or any other things happen to the banking system , people will still choose another option to replace bank due to the volatility that may hurt them
6486  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is Bitcoin still a slave of Fiat? on: June 14, 2015, 01:11:37 PM
No central bank will issue BTC and no gov will obligate all business to accept BTC, so someone will always don't accept bt

You are missing the vital point of BTC here, the decentralized system which means that there isnt any need to any central bank or any goverment for BTC . Although at some point if a government do support BTC then it will be in a better case because it will boost an adoption for it but it is not the vital thing for it since BTC is some kinda stand-alone currency that doesnt need government

P.S : true that someone will always not accept BTC. The same thing with the other currency, at some country  , it will not be accepted
6487  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 14, 2015, 01:05:52 PM
If bitcoin really will be banned, I think no one will make a online shop with the bitcoin as the currency, or make other bitcoin website in the country, so the bitcoin will be so hard to developed.

Banning it will not stop anything actually, it will just force BTC to step into underground pace. The same thing with drugs and stuff, it is illegal in most countries but that dont stop people from using or distributing it. Although this would means that BTC will be acknowledge at something similar of "criminal related stuff" or so

If the government may cooperate with bitcoin, they will help to introduce what bitcoin is to society and put high tax on it

This will be a breeze of air and the best possible case ever but some BTC user despise goverment and also tax. Last I heard Elwar ditched all his credit cards and going to live without paying any tax

P.S : I lost track on this news, perhaps you could use search function for it

that's why there were so many news told us several crime cases that related to bitcoin.

To be honest that a fault from the BTC user. Media play a role in reporting a case which unfortunately the case is about someone using BTC to purchase some illegal things i.e silkroad. Its not the media that ruin BTC but it is the BTC user that ruin it, most people will now see BTC as a criminal related stuff due to all this negative publicity
6488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Trading Strategy on: June 14, 2015, 12:38:16 PM
I have heard from a bitcointalk thread that it is good to buy a crypto-currency when it is fresh launched on an exchange  and after some time sell it.
Is that true?


If you are referring for ninja launch coins then it is unpredictable because the price might keep on dropping once it hit an exchanger ( due to the selling pressure from all the early miners ) but if you are referring to a another altcoin that has a solid worktab and future on it then it is quite true (happened to DASH)

Those exchangers don't easily accept new altcoins if the coin have a good trading volume from other exhcangers then it has a chance to get added.

Try to read this clearly, he is saying when it is fresh launched on exchanger

when it is fresh launched on an exchange

Also that c-cex and bittrex will keep on adding a new pop up coins depending on the hype for it (c-cex will mostly, harder with bittrex) basically all you need for a new coin to be added into an exchanger is a hype from twitter, more Retweet means more demands for the coins and therefore more higher chance to get added


I noticed that for example on C-Cex,every 2-3 days are added new coins

Good observation and its true, reason is simple for it, they gain from the trading fee so why not?
6489  Economy / Economics / Re: Buying Bitcoin on margin - this could explode the market (and bank accounts) on: June 14, 2015, 11:53:25 AM
margin trades leverage wont make no one rich ,even expert traders loose some money

Of course some people lose money in it. Basically Margin trade isnt a mechanism for people to make an instant quick buck and it is in nature of trading that not everyone is a winner. Some could get a quickswing of profit while someone could lose

and if they dont loose is because they invest on the largest leverage

Definitely wrong, using the largest leverage wont guarantee that you will keep on winning. Highest leverage will only bear you the maximum risk available or the highest possible profit for it, nothing more than that

Code:
Each time someone got profit in trading, there will be always someone who lost in it 

if you default on their loan


It is not literally a "loan" because it is just a simple number tweak in their database
6490  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: June 14, 2015, 11:11:55 AM
Its better to invest but its better to save first then you can now invest your money so that you have an enough capital to invest.

It actually doesnt matter on your capital for this investment stuff. Either if you have a small or a big capital, the interest rate (percentage) will only varies a little. What matters will be the interest earn from your capital and of course you should know every investment got its own risk and with bigger capital the risk to bear will be higher as well

i guess you shouldnt invest it just let the money work for you  try some safe investments

try some safe investments

Such as? AFAIK there are none "safe" investment as every investment bear their own risk. Even putting your money into safe deposits is actually unsafe due to that alot of news regarding banks insolvency

And if you save in bitcoin keep your money in your wallet your money are safe into inflation/

Constantly keeping your money in form of BTC and put them in the wallet makes you safe from inflation indeed but you forgot that each day the price of BTC is declining and thats makes you lose the value of BTC that you bought


what we need is a sidechain with the ability to turn bitcoin pos, so you can earn interest while leaving your coins/money safe in your desktop

We dont need another altcoin stuff such as POS. You should go and tell your idea of this in bitcoin discussion section and Im sure you will be getting alot of negatives comment
6491  Economy / Economics / Re: Will a bank being hacked boost adoption of bitcoin? on: June 14, 2015, 10:52:51 AM
Bitcoin is not completly anonymous as you might think.

Depends on what you compare it to, if you compared it to a bank account indeed BTC is completely anonymous

this means adding your identity information to bitcoin transactions and making it possible to blacklist funds by financial institutions. It is only a matter of time when bitcoin regulations will hit us.

There will be no BTC regulations because it is not something that a country could control. Unfortunately most country will bann BTC for it because it cant be control and it will reduce the chance of mass adoption.
BTC was created so that people could leave the traditional economic system where identity is needed and that goverment could control your transaction, also block or reverse the transaction if needed. Adding identity to BTC transactions will only means that we are heading towards that old fashion system again

I don't think countries need to regulate bitcoin - they can just be one of those 'heavy traders' who can manipulate or change the market.
They don't need to regulate Bitcoin, just the fact they dropped its value from $600 to $230 should scare away lots of potential investors to stay away from this option.


Even if they want to , they cant because its in the nature of BTC that it cant be regulated. Unfortunately there are quiet few "potential investor" in BTC because BTC isnt viewed as investment for common people and mostly it is viewed as some kinda stocks for a quickswing in profit

To be honest, this low price is one of the reason that most people arent taking their attention into BTC yet, I would like a stable price but to boost adoption into BTC sadly a higher price is needed so that more people could see this as a potential

6492  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin trading strategy on: June 14, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
the thing is to be wise and enter on the right time on the market,put some buy orders and wait  to complete and must pay attencion... can buy it now and hold for 4 months ,expecting price to go up

There is a slight difference between trading and "holding / investment " (call it whatever you want) because it is not in the nature of traders to hold for months when they could make a slight profit instantly. Also that , "expecting" price to go up is pretty much taking a blind bet and trader isnt the same as gambler unless you are inexperienced on it because most trader dont do a "blind bet".

Nevertheless, it is actually a one way around to another because each time a trader profitted from trading that means there also a trader that lost on his trade
6493  Economy / Economics / Re: Will a bank being hacked boost adoption of bitcoin? on: June 14, 2015, 09:38:39 AM
Bitcoin is not completly anonymous as you might think.

Depends on what you compare it to, if you compared it to a bank account indeed BTC is completely anonymous

this means adding your identity information to bitcoin transactions and making it possible to blacklist funds by financial institutions. It is only a matter of time when bitcoin regulations will hit us.

There will be no BTC regulations because it is not something that a country could control. Unfortunately most country will bann BTC for it because it cant be control and it will reduce the chance of mass adoption.
BTC was created so that people could leave the traditional economic system where identity is needed and that goverment could control your transaction, also block or reverse the transaction if needed. Adding identity to BTC transactions will only means that we are heading towards that old fashion system again
6494  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: June 14, 2015, 09:17:38 AM
Too bad, people wont even go deeper for it because basically what attracts them are a thing that could help them to earn some quick bucks and thats all which makes the "value" became a measurement if BTC is dead or not. As a proof, you could check the entire forum on the question "how to sign a message from your address" , a simple yet outstanding feature that most people dont know

that is true..don't you think that media has played an very important role in killing bitcoin? Media now and then keeps on talking negative about the bitcoin which forced people to think that it is dying as people have faith in media more rather on themselves and people should use their own minds then following the media.

Most people thought that way but it is definitely unclear if Media plays a part in killing BTC because not all country bann BTC. Most country are lenient towards it and the reason that we found alot of media to put in negative news for BTC are not because that they are trying to kill BTC with it but unfortunately it is the sole fault from BTC user that use BTC for negative activity i.e silkroad

lol im pretty sure all countries governments made some mistake and the people pays always for them

That is why media play a part in putting negative news for them as well. Most democracy countries allow their media to mock their government though
6495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: June 14, 2015, 09:11:37 AM
People should use auto-bet bots just to avoid hit every time keyboard keys or mouse buttons not to make them gamble while they're doing other tasks.

Cant blame people for this because dice sites are extremely boring, with just a single click then the result of the roll will be shown . What makes people stay in a dice sites is the community of the sites therefore to avoid this boredom people use autobet so that they could roll while chatting with the others  Smiley

Gamblers should be able to terminate their auto-bet if they reach the winning limit they or they reach their maximum lose one or even if other unexpected circumstances arose.

Some dice sites autobet feature doesnt implement this feature though but eventhough there are a feature in the autobet to stop loss if you reach a certain amount of BTC lost, people are unwilling to use it because most are falling into delusion that their autobet will keep on winning it
6496  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 14, 2015, 05:53:18 AM
I doubt that it will go way that far. Worst thing would be that some people will be discouraged to exchange it to FIAT and the others might still be doing it as usual. It is pretty simple to avoid it anyway because people could do a peer-2-peer exchange without involving any exchanger thus this could be use to avoid the huge tax when you are exchanging it to FIAT


Governments will attack bitcoins in the future and that is for sure. Governments are very intelligent and criminal minded people they will only look at their profits so they are waiting for bitcoin to grow so once the bitcoin grows and reaches to the stable price they will definitely attack the bitcoin.

Care to elaborate more about what you meant by "attack". Thoughts I have addressed this but the worst they could do will be to either bann BTC or put on a high tax for the BTC/FIAT exchanger to discourage people.
Banning BTC will never be a succesful way for them to "attack" BTC because eventually it will just lead BTC deeper underground. Most people will still use it eventhough it has been bann i.e russia
6497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: June 14, 2015, 05:43:22 AM
to get less than 1% house edge in blackjack you have to know how to play perfectly

You are definitely wrong on this, the house edge on BlackJack isnt calculated by how do you play your hands but it is calculated from the house rules of the BackJack i.e number of decks, ability to split for X hands, soft17 rules, ability to double after split and others which you can check and calculate here http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

if you want to try martingale first have an infinite wallet Cheesy

I've addressed this before, even if you have an "infinite" balance, Martingale will not work because each site has their own maximum bet amount/ maximum win which means at some point if you keep on losing then your martingale will stop doubling up the wager amount because it has reached the maximum amount of the site
6498  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I'm Not Running any Ponzi and I'm not a Ponzi scammer on: June 13, 2015, 05:09:10 PM
So, is this guy still blackmailing money from people or did he give it back?

He hasnt give it back yet and I doubt that he will be giving it back after his demand for an apology from is quickseller within 24 hours isnt fulfilled and it has passed 24 hours from the time he posted that. He should have gone this far and he made himself indeed a scammer now because of his silly action

It seems the BTC has been moved to this address https://blockchain.info/address/1514KYbq56qM4kd32DJwB5DVD1kNSZ2qyT

Only one person is responsible for this Quickseller he has to apologies for his wrong perception.
I will return all the funds within 24 hours after getting email from him.



EDIT : I dont see any negative trust from the owner of the funds despite that he had stole it

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=403194


and no complaint from Snavy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=485410;sa=showPosts
6499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: June 13, 2015, 04:31:01 PM
whether martingale working on the game of blackjack?

Martingale are a strategy where you double up your wager amount for a 2x payout and it could be use for any game. Blacjack is one of the game with a low house edge basically it is less than 1 %. With a proper strategy to hit and stand, basically it could be use to "help" in reducing your chance to lose.

You could check here on BlackJack strategy http://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/strategy/calculator/. It basically tells you on when to stand or hit , so consider it as a normal strategy not a "winning strategy" because strategies are meant to help you in reducing your chance to lose, not to help you keep on winning things

to stand or hit usually I use the feeling sometimes I have a good feeling Smiley

if only the minimum bet at the blackjack 0.0001, maybe I will last longer and many make a profit Cheesy
because 0.001 is too big for me and usually I play with capital 0.01 - 0.03.

Well wagering at even minimum of 1 satoshi will make you bust soon enough if you have a bad streak on it . To be honest, your "feeling" has no effect to the result of your martingale bet, It will stand on either win or lose and nothing more of this "feeling" will change the outcome of it, best way will be to follow that wizardofodds BlackJack strategy

P.S : if you are looking for a site with lower wager amount for BlackJack then you should check on CoinRoyale which has 100 satoshis minimum bet ( I could be wrong on this )
6500  Economy / Economics / Re: Government & Bitcoin on: June 13, 2015, 01:07:47 AM
It doesnt matter if you agree or not because that is not your call to do so. Laws are the main thing government use to control his country and your job would be to bow down before the law ofcourse and ofcourse sooner or later once government start to acknowledge BTC and its threat to their economic structure then we will see a heavy tax on BTC/FIAT exchange to discourage user.

well soo the black market will act to allow users to get the bitcoins as to sell them ,currently able to get them on exchanges... if government take a huge step ,btc comunity will find a way to avoid them .... the same think some people declare the btc ammount holding others just dont....

I doubt that it will go way that far. Worst thing would be that some people will be discouraged to exchange it to FIAT and the others might still be doing it as usual. It is pretty simple to avoid it anyway because people could do a peer-2-peer exchange without involving any exchanger thus this could be use to avoid the huge tax when you are exchanging it to FIAT



if governments would think to attack bitcoin ,well for them is pretty easy to be buying bitcoins and trying to control the price...but why they should do that?they control the currencys already....countryes make the bump and dump very easy.... and yes a pression but when bank acts all market react

For the bolded part, it is unclear about what currency are you talking about. If what you meant is BTC then you are wrong because the governments dont control BTC but if it is their country's currency then you are wrong again because their currency's currency isnt something to be pump or dump

P.S : To be honest it is pretty hard to understand what you write , perhaps you should use google translate to help you for the "wording"  of your post
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