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6521  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ETH u BTC anonimno on: October 13, 2019, 06:07:12 AM
Ako je ovako kako si napisao, onda to nije baš kao u dućanu. Tamo kad prodavačici daš 100 kuna da platiš račun od 70 kuna, ona ti ne vrati 20 kn u jednom novčaniku i 10 kn u drugom.
Ne plaćaš ništa, znači dođeš u dućan i kažeš:

"dobar dan, da li mi možete razmijeniti 100 kuna u dvije po 50" i prodavačica ti razmijeni.

Dobiješ dvije novčanice od 50 kuna za jednu od 100, ovdje dobiješ recimo "dvije novčanice od 0.002btc" za "jednu od 0.004btc"  Tongue

Jasno mi je da ne plaćaš fee (iako mi i dalje nije jasno kako se onda financiraju; zar samo od reklama?). Ali usporedba nije baš kao u dućanu jer u dućanu dvije novčanice od 50 kn staviš u svoj (jedan) novčanik. Kod mixera dobiješ "dvije novčanice od 0.002 BTC", svaku u poseban novčanik. To čak i nije tako strašno, ali što ako ti pošalje private key of 10 ili više walleta da bi izjednačio tvoj iznos? To je onda već zajebancija sve skupiti u jedan wallet. Može li se i tako nešto dogoditi ili u većini slučajeva dobiješ private key of dva-tri walleta?
6522  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: October 12, 2019, 12:24:44 PM
[...] Da nema kojekakvih lobija (primjerice naftnih) siguran sam da bi već imali tehnologiju proizvodnje energije koja ne bi toliko utjecala na CO2 u atmosferi i klimu općenito. [...]

Imamo je vec odavno; zove se nuklearna energija.


...koja je najčišći oblik energije dok se ne dogodi sranje poput onoga u Černobilu. A kad se to dogodi, onda taj prostor nije za život idućih nekoliko generacija ljudi. Prema tome, mislim da ipak trebamo tražiti dalje.
6523  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ETH u BTC anonimno on: October 12, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
Ako bi na primer neko poslao Ethereum na neki dex exchange i uradio trade za Bitcoin,
mislim da bi to izgubilo trag za Ethereum (što sam i pitao) ako se ne varam.

U tom slučaju ne bi trebao mixer

A gledaj... Teoretski i DEX može imati u logovima spremljenu tvoju IP adresu i trenutak kad si napravio deposit ETH-a i onda withdraw BTC-a te onda nije problem identificirati te (policija od ISP-a može tražiti tko je u određenom vremenskom periodu koristio određenu IP adresu i lako te identificiraju an taj način). Eventualno ako bi koristio Tor browser ili neki VPN za koji si siguran da ne sprema podatke o tome tko i što radi preko VPN-a. Ali to su već "level pro" načini izbjegavanja identifikacije za ekipu poput Snowdena i slične Wink Nisam siguran da je ikome ovdje potrebna ta razina anonimnosti.
6524  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ETH u BTC anonimno on: October 12, 2019, 04:45:14 AM
ChipMixer je jedini mixer koji je godinama več na tržištu i može im se vjerovati. [...] Ja koliko znam ne plaća se nikakva naknada za korištenje njihovih usluga izuzev standardnih BTC naknada za potvrdu transakcija. Možda marlboroza zna nešto više, on jedini nosi njihov potpis na našem lokalnom forumu.
Koliko sam upućen, ne plaćate nikakav fee ali im možete donirati ako želite, ako ne želite ne morate.

Oni zapravo "usitnjavaju" btc na način da ako recimo imate 0.01 btc, dobit ćete recimo par adresa na kojima se već nalazi 0.001 + 0.001 + 0.002 + 0.002 + 0.004 (ili nešto slično), isto ko da odete u dućan i pitate prodavačicu da vam razmjeni 100 u dve od 50.


Hm... Nisam stvarno nikad koristio mixere. Nisam znao da oni iznos s jednog walleta podijele na više manjih iznosa koji se nalaze na različitim walletima. Mislio sam da ti njima pošalješ BTC, a oni ti isti taj BTC vrate na drugi wallet ali bez ikakvog zapisa (npr. ja s A walleta pošaljem BTC na B wallet, a oni meni onda sa C walleta pošalju BTC na D wallet).

Ako je ovako kako si napisao, onda to nije baš kao u dućanu. Tamo kad prodavačici daš 100 kuna da platiš račun od 70 kuna, ona ti ne vrati 20 kn u jednom novčaniku i 10 kn u drugom.
6525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 12, 2019, 04:36:44 AM
Ok, it was really fast
CZE - ENG, ‘9 min, 1:1 Smiley
To score both, of course

Now I’m waiting Island and France

Go go go  Cool

Yeah, that was pretty fast to win a bet after 9 minutes Wink I'm waiting for France and Turkey to win. To be honest, I didn't know that France have problems with injured players but I still hope they can win. And Turkey should have no problem beating Albania, but who knows... In football everything is possible. I still hope that France and Turkey will win.

Today's game is different from yesterday's match because it looks more aggressive while today the game is very slow, really boring

* France has scored just waiting for Turkey

Well... It took forever for Turkey to score but they did. Thanks @big_daddy for the tip even though I didn't follow your tip to the letter. I put France to win and you tipped both teams to score on that one. Sorry if you lost your bet because of that.
6526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 11, 2019, 08:01:25 PM
Ok, it was really fast
CZE - ENG, ‘9 min, 1:1 Smiley
To score both, of course

Now I’m waiting Island and France

Go go go  Cool

Yeah, that was pretty fast to win a bet after 9 minutes Wink I'm waiting for France and Turkey to win. To be honest, I didn't know that France have problems with injured players but I still hope they can win. And Turkey should have no problem beating Albania, but who knows... In football everything is possible. I still hope that France and Turkey will win.
6527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 11, 2019, 01:20:19 PM
I was watching Netherlands vs Northern Ireland for the first half but when I received notification at half time from Google that Belgium is leading by 6-0, I immediately switched to that match. Poor luck of mine, Belgium wasn't same in second half. Hazard, Lukaku and Mertens were called off and game wasn't as pacey as first half. Only good thing in second half was Verschaeren, this guy has lot of promises which he will surely deliver in future.
Where on the other side, Netherlands vs NI match got hell of interesting in second half. Netherlands scored 2 goals in extra time and won the game by 3-1 in which they were behind for 80 minutes.

Well... You can't expect that team will play the same pace after finishing the first half 6-0. It's normal (like the second half of Croatia-Hungary match) to rest key players when you have situation like that.
6528  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Svađaona on: October 11, 2019, 01:16:57 PM
Ma cura je zapravo OK i zalaže se za stvari za koje se i trebamo zalagati. Jer, budimo realni, klima se mijenja i jedini razlog je čovjek i njegova pohlepa za zaradom. Ja sam čak siguran da su pametni ljudi koji su pokrenuli industrijsku revoluciju imali samo i isključivo zaradu na pameti, sad bi valjda tek upoznavali što je i kako radi npr. bežični prijenos signala (mobiteli i slično). Želim reći da se cura zalaže da se nešto poduzme i da se zaustave klimatske promjene koje su tako očite da ih ne vidi jedino Trump (jedino valjda on zbog ekstremne hladnoće može izjaviti da je globalno zatopljenje glupost jer je njemu trenutno hladno). Da nema kojekakvih lobija (primjerice naftnih) siguran sam da bi već imali tehnologiju proizvodnje energije koja ne bi toliko utjecala na CO2 u atmosferi i klimu općenito.

Ali da se vratim na Gretu... Cura se zalaže da se zaustave klimatske promjene i to je OK. Jedino mi smeta što (barem meni) to sve djeluje tako isforsirano i da joj prije govora kažu što treba reći i kako se ponašati. Ne znam, možda imam takav dojam jer ima nekakav blagi oblik autizma pa ne komunicira na isti način kao ljudi koji nemaju autizam, ali jednostavno imam takav dojam.
6529  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: October 11, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Ubit ću nekog tamo, majke mi.

Naravno da mi je uzelo rezervnu, naravno da me Revolt izbio s 4-0 i uzeo mi 20 milijuna navijača.

Ma prodat ću sve, stvarno su nesposobni.

Taman sam i ja htio napisati. Ajde, ja sam igrao protiv slabijeg pa sam svejedno dobio. Ali išao sam dva puta provjeriti da se uvjerim da mi je stvarno uzelo krivu momčad. Stvarno su nesposobni...
6530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 11, 2019, 09:25:13 AM
I'd just like to go back to the match between Croatia and Hungary yesterday. I think that Croatia didn't look good in the second half. I guess they let their guard down a little bit after Kleinheisler received a red card. But they are at the first place in the group with just two games to play.

Don't forget that Croatia have very difficult and important match with Wales in only 3 days.
We have some old players in the team like Modric, Rakitic etc so it was wise to replace them with younger players so that they can rest and be ready for next match.
Match with Wales is very important for Croatia and can decide about first place in the group.
Also,  this match is last chance for Wales.

Wales are yet to beat Croatia in their last five games with the games ending with four wins for Croatia and a draw.Both teams are with a two wins and a draw in their last three international games. A loss will seriously hurt Wales chances since they are currently in fourth place six points behind leaders Croatia but they have one extra game to play against Azerbaijan.

If that game against Azerbaijan didn't happen, then I'd say that Wales doesn't have any chance against Croatia. However, we have seen how Croatian players can quickly "forget to play football" in the game against Azerbaijan. But I'm still pretty sure that Croatian players can easily beat Wales if they repeat the game against Hungary or especially the game against Slovakia.

Also, a win against Wales will probably be a ticket to the EURO 2020 and we wouldn't have to shudder from the match against Slovakia in November.
6531  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ETH u BTC anonimno on: October 11, 2019, 08:46:18 AM
najefikasniji mikser je upravo onaj na "palentu" spomenut u OP, dakle kriptovaluta1 ->> private coin (monero i ostali) ->>> kriptovaluta2

Baš me zanima kakve će sve ideje biti napisane u ovom topicu
Jer kad tad će doći vrijeme za pobrisati bilo kakve tragove  Cool

Haha! To što si na nekom forumu napisao da koristiš ovaj ili onaj mixer ne može biti dokaz za ništa. Odnosno, do samo dokazuje da si ga koristio ali ne i koju količinu kripta si "smiksao" da postane anonimno. Iako, meni se više sviđa korištenje raznih DEX burzi na kojima ne treba KYC. Istina, njima isto ostaviš fee ali na burzama je fee obično manji od 0.5% pa opet ispada prilično jeftino.
6532  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: October 11, 2019, 08:43:30 AM
Meni je ovo s prikazom morala igrača u match reportu bez veze. Zar ne bi bilo logičnije da se to može vidjeti prije tekme, a ne nakon? Što mi znači ako vidim da sam u igru stavio igrača koji zbog traitova ima -20% protiv ekipe od koje sam upravo izgubio. Korisno bi mi bilo kad bi to pisalo kod slaganja momčadi za iduću tekmu po rasporedu. Zapravo, ovakav način prikaza ima smisla jedino kod "Quick match" tekmi jer kod njih se ne zna protiv koga ćeš igrati dok slažeš momčad.
6533  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: ETH u BTC anonimno on: October 11, 2019, 06:48:53 AM
Nikad nisam koristio te mixere. Ima li neki, ajmo reći popularan? Jer da ga trebam koristiti, ne bi se baš usudio "googlati" i onda koristiti prvi koji dođe kao rezultat pretraživanja. Tako se vrlo lako navući na scam.
6534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 11, 2019, 06:44:53 AM
I'd just like to go back to the match between Croatia and Hungary yesterday. I think that Croatia didn't look good in the second half. I guess they let their guard down a little bit after Kleinheisler received a red card. But they are at the first place in the group with just two games to play.
6535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 10, 2019, 08:10:45 PM
Now I'm sad I didn't bet on Croatia to win with 3 or more goals...

There's no way to be certain of the outcome of a match up before the game kicks off.  Croatia would have been booked to come out victorious, but maybe not as they have done. Everything seemed to work right. They would be huge favorites to win the tournament next year.

Of course there is no way to be certain but I'm Croatian so I would have been betting on my team. But never mind... Maybe next time Smiley

BTW, Hungary just received a red card (second yellow) for talking to the referee. I know that they are frustrated but how can you argue with the referee when you already have one yellow card?

And BTW#2, Perišić (Croatia) missed the penalty shot. Too bad for him. He really looked like he wants to score badly but he couldn't.
6536  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Elly - Plaćanje kriptovalutama u Hrvatskoj on: October 10, 2019, 07:48:27 PM
Ček, moram imati njihovu aplikaciju da bi plaćao kriptovalutama? Zar nisu mogli napraviti da se generira QR kod s adresom walleta i onda se s bilo kojeg walleta pošalje kripto?
6537  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: October 10, 2019, 07:46:46 PM
Evo slackovicu, i uz svu moju nadogradnju jedva 2-1.

Neka, pobjedi se ne gleda u zube a 3 boda su ipak 3 boda Grin

Iskreno, očekivao sam da ćeš me nakantati kao Hrvatska Mađarsku u prvom poluvremenu Grin Nisam gledao tekmu ali ponosan sam na svoje dečke. Tako se pokazuje velikima. Još kad kupim ponekog Elite igrača (po mogućnosti ne neku poziciju koju već imam Grin ), možda izvučem i koji X protiv tebe  Tongue

A što se tiče prodaje ekipe... Ne znam. $500 mi je stvarno puno za uložiti u igru koja je u alpha fazi. Ipak je to preveliki rizik. Mislim da je u tom slučaju bolje uložiti po $100 u low market cap projekte pa možda neki napravi x100 i eto $10.000 Smiley
6538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 10, 2019, 07:40:45 PM
I don't know what's up with Hungary, but they suck big time. Not all of them, but their defence is practically non-existent. Each of three defence players is guilty of one goal and Croatia leads 3-0 on the first half. Croatia is playing pretty well, but Hungary really can't do anything with the ball. They had maybe 10 minutes in the end of the first half when they were sort of attacking, but there was no real goal chance.

Now I'm sad I didn't bet on Croatia to win with 3 or more goals...

And BTw, fans in Split are great! There wasn't a single torch after the goals! I hope they stay the same in the second half.
6539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Qualifying on: October 10, 2019, 01:54:10 PM
In Split,  Croatia is very tense atmosfere before match between Croatia and Hungary.
I already sew reports about conflict between Croatian and Hungarian funs.
A lot police and security is in the city  
I hope match tonight will pass without some big problems.
Rakitic is back and now almost all Croatian main  players are ready to play in this match.
I think Croatia will win, but if you want to make good money bet on Hungary.
Croatia always had bad results in Split 😀

I really think Croatia will win this one. They embarrassed themselves against Azerbaijan and I think they will try to redeem themselves tonight. Besides, the stadium will be full and I think that the atmosphere will be great! I just hope there won't be any problems like fans fighting and stuff like that. If that happens, I think Split won't see national team any time soon.
6540  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Airdrop..?? on: October 10, 2019, 09:10:47 AM
Je li netko od vas dobio Ebakus tokene u wallet? Nemam pojma da sam se ikad prijavio za to, a i koliko vidim na web stranici nemaju airdrop pa mi nije jasno otkuda... Ali super mi je kako na stranici posjetitelja dočeka slika robota i nekog čudovišta u pozadini. Stvarno ozbiljno, nema šta. Odmah poželim uložiti 10-tak ETH u projekt Grin

ja sam dobio, u iznosu koliko ETH toliko EBK, u svim novcanicima gde imam vise od 1ETH, nisam se nigde prijavio, niti cuo da postoji airdrop

Aha... Onda je to klasični airdrop za sve ETH holdere. Ne razumijem poantu toga osim popularizacije vlastitog projekta (ljudi će ići proučavati o kakvom projektu se radi kad dobe tokene). Ali meni je to jednako slanju spam poruka.
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