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I've seen this mentioned before so it's not my idea, but I definitely agree with it.
It makes zero sense from a global perspective to have multiple Bitcoinesqe currencies. Each will be weaker than their combination would be. A small government could blast us away right now, or a medium sized corp for that matter. If all honest people work on the same currency we will be much stronger than if we are split.
But no one is looking out for the global benefit. On the individual side of things it makes no sense to start accepting a currency with all the same features as Bitcoin, but none of the places to spend or exchange. Bitcoin is transitioning right now from a great idea to an actual community and economy which will make it really useful. It has taken about a year to get this far, and a new currency would have the disadvantage of not getting the help of people already in Bitcoin's orbit. Additionally, a rational actor comparing two systems with the same features, one with huge backing and the other brand new, will always choose the widely used one.
Now if the new version has some totally great new features then that's a different story. But a new name and different generation rate probably isn't going to do it.
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So we do have your permission to link to our auctions? Those are "main pages"?
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I really don't even like the idea of one person having ability to send messages. Even if I/we trust that person now, we might not later, or it might be a different person, or they might get tortured/bribed/blackmailed.
It's open source! If you don't trust Satoshi or think he is going to be coerced, replace his key with your own so only you have the power to shutdown your nodes. Well, yeah, that's what I'd need to do, but since I'd have to buy/beg it from someone who can implement I'd prefer to have the main client just be what I want. Also I'd stay more comfortable with bitcoin on the whole if other people don't have a centrally controlled client. I know I could convince them to use a non-special-key version, but really that's what I'm doing right now. Messages only is not a big deal, but I think it does start down a "special user" path that I'd prefer not to follow. |
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If someone does something bad with dollars (unrealistic I know) does this taint dollars? If the people you are associating with hold a double standard that extreme just stop associating with them. The number of people prepared to do force on you for ignoring them is smaller than you think.
The idea that using a currency corrupt to it's core is totally fine, but using a better currency is bad because one time a bad person did a bad thing with it is ridiculous. I'm not saying you hold that view, just saying again that people who espouse it should not be listened too.
I'll write more about my thoughts on your general point in a minute.
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Interesting.
Maybe we could form a nationwide network within the US with bitcoin users?
This would be a big step towards anonimity and avoiding any government interference on bitcoin. Right now the government controls the internet through regulating the commercial providers, people's access point. But this is a private network, people just connecting to each other with wifi devices in their roofs. It would be impossible for government to control, without going home by home shutting down the devices. It is also a cheap way to have network connectivity and scape the government sponsored corporations that provide internet service right now. In the catalan network there is people providing proxies to access the internet. So it look like people agree that it is a good idea. However, it will need funding and a team to engineer such a project. If the team that is engineering the devices does it well enough then networks can spontaneously start anywhere where enough friends live close, then it can grow through acquaintances or even just a for profit who resells them saying "there's a good network of them between 5th st. and Riverside dr. or whatever. |
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I can't remember if I made an account or not. Oh, wait I did; I made a bid even. If I delete it can I regain my linking freedom?
I hate to bitch about someone who's obviously doing great service for bitcoin, but rejecting that kind of controlling crap is why I'm here at all.
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I cut back to one machine when the difficulty rose. I just made my first block at the new difficulty w/ 2500khash.
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Should this move to the marketplace?
Is there escrow? This is way to big to just send to a stranger with no rep at all.
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You may not create a link to this website from another website or document without BiddingPond.com’s prior written consent.
Is he for real?! Can you link me to the terms so I can verify that craziness?
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No! If you do that they'll torture you until you give them the key Satoshi!
But seriously, if the key has turn off power I'm not running that client.
I really don't even like the idea of one person having ability to send messages. Even if I/we trust that person now, we might not later, or it might be a different person, or they might get tortured/bribed/blackmailed.
I imagine this thinking comes from seeing all the people who haven't switched to 3.10 yet?
Having enough different implementations that none is a majority would mean a bug like the overflow would only lead to problems with the improperly coded client and not with the whole chain. Unless people writing new clients mostly copied your code, then any problems would remain. But if they were written from scratch to do what they should then any problems would not overlap.
Do I remember you saying you thought it would be a nightmare to have multiple implementations? I can't remember why you said that though.
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@fresno That's well-stated, IMHO. The part about dealers taking the heat seems rather cold, however  And yes, they'll need considerable tradecraft, or consultants who do. Check out The Second Realm: Book on Strategy. Just started reading, looks very good. |
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To be clear, I think it's good how it is. I was just trying to understand what jgarzik wanted and why.
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If you use a new address of each ticket you have the same anonymity as the link generating way, right?
I get what you mean about encouraging repeated use, I already did that. But anyone who really cares can just keep track of many addresses instead of many links.
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IMO, login should not be required.
At a bare minimum, ticker buyers should only need to provide a bitcoin return address. You provide them with a unique bitcoin address for deposits.
Assign each ticket a randomly generated URL for people who wish to track status of a ticket.
How would you see which tickets you had previously bought? Or cancel them? Visit the per-ticket, randomly generated link. Ah, that is a no log-in solution. What is the downside to the easy log-in he has now? |
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It would be good to a permanent link bar somewhere so people can easy navigate between rules, buy tickets, make a deposit, etc.
Yes it would, but the buying of tickets needs the open draw context. If I always keep one, and only one open then it should not be a problem. I need to write rules, faq, thank yous, etc and make a bunch of visual fixes and improvements to the site, but this has been a learning experience for me, and my attention has been elsewhere (bitcoind jsonrpc integration, new web engine, new template lang, new db). I will improve site navigation next, though, just because you asked first  Haha thanks. |
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IMO, login should not be required.
At a bare minimum, ticker buyers should only need to provide a bitcoin return address. You provide them with a unique bitcoin address for deposits.
Assign each ticket a randomly generated URL for people who wish to track status of a ticket.
How would you see which tickets you had previously bought? Or cancel them? The login is only a return address. It's the easiest login possible. |
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It would be good to a permanent link bar somewhere so people can easy navigate between rules, buy tickets, make a deposit, etc.
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Updated the TAABL to move to the new prize schema, which is 3 character bets, prize distribution 50% + 24% + 24%.
Also included a random bet generator, as requested.
That's great! I'm buying a few more. |
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You should open source the market. Maybe.
It is a nice market. I definitely think he needs rewarded though. Maybe a bounty/gift to set the code free? If he's interested. 23k BTC traded in the last 24hrs! |
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