k this is bottom....
If you are the market manipulator and dumper you can say this, otherwise you are just guessing. Really. welcome to the speculation sub-forum Yea that is true, but just make sure that it is not about what we want, but what they want. And any observation is true as the oposite one. If they want bounce they will market buy 2k and set bid walls, if they want to reject bounce after 15% drop in 24h, they will set walls to prevent it. They are smart. Cause they know what we think and how we behave, but we don't know how they think and what is their plan - but we know what is their end goal (but that doesn't help us much as it looks like). Is "their" end goal BTC/USD @ 0$ or accumulate as many as possible( if the latter one , than you wouldn´t have much to worry about((only if you´re not in a leveraged position of course))  ) Their end goal is to milk you and other believers in 10k bubbles stories. They are in it for profit and dumping bitcoin on you for over 1k$ was way overpriced with what bitcoin offers today. EDIT: Buy bitcoin for 10$, pump it, market it as digital gold and internet of internet, dump for 1000$ to the chinese You are forgeting that they will probably do it once again and try for BTC to become very succesfull, cause they will have the power. And they won't kill the chicken that lays golden eggs, they will just repeat then thing and the slowly become riiiiich, nasty riiich... market is still so small that they can do anything to convice internet nerds to do what they want. |
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k this is bottom....
If you are the market manipulator and dumper you can say this, otherwise you are just guessing. Really. welcome to the speculation sub-forum Yea that is true, but just make sure that it is not about what we want, but what they want. And any observation is true as the oposite one. If they want bounce they will market buy 2k and set bid walls, if they want to reject bounce after 15% drop in 24h, they will set walls to prevent it. They are smart. Cause they know what we think and how we behave, but we don't know how they think and what is their plan - but we know what is their end goal (but that doesn't help us much as it looks like). Is "their" end goal BTC/USD @ 0$ or accumulate as many as possible( if the latter one , than you wouldn´t have much to worry about((only if you´re not in a leveraged position of course)) ) Honestly this is the question we don't know for sure the answer, but we know that they are not selling off (going out of BTC) - it would be much more simple and much more profitable to sell it on OTC - even 50k+ coins. But much more believable is, that they want to accumulate cheap (maybe even through cheap OTC bulk buys) and rinse & repeat the bubble. Being end goal BTC at 0 is low probability, cause they were probably early in the game and understand the things well, this would be possible only in the case if someone is doing this who doesn't want BTC to succeed (banks, gvt...). Or if these coins are stolen and they really have xxx.000 BTC (but probably exchanges would get them). But all this killing BTC in imo less than 10% chance. And remember - China is not the cause of all this rise and fall, its the tool. |
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k this is bottom....
If you are the market manipulator and dumper you can say this, otherwise you are just guessing. Really. welcome to the speculation sub-forum Yea that is true, but just make sure that it is not about what we want, but what they want. And any observation is true as the oposite one. If they want bounce they will market buy 2k and set bid walls, if they want to reject bounce after 15% drop in 24h, they will set walls to prevent it. They are smart. Cause they know what we think and how we behave, but we don't know how they think and what is their plan - but we know what is their end goal (but that doesn't help us much as it looks like). |
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k this is bottom....
If you are the market manipulator and dumper you can say this, otherwise you are just guessing. Really. |
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China started this dump, could there be a link between it and the HK protests?
LOL no, but there is a link between China and manipulator (P&D). Can't you see it? |
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We already need 2k coins just to get back to 400. So no more 400 for now i think. These walls will keep pushing us down.
I don't see how this has anything to do with China.
Edit: 3k now. 1k was added to that wall. Down we must go. The drop to 400 wasn't enough. They just won't stop.
China helps that dumpers don't need to dump so many coins as "we" do it for them - like look China going down - sell sell. |
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China took us from 130 to 1200 - China will take us back to 150$.
Replace "China" with "Pump & Dumper" or "Manipulator", whatever your want. China and their exchanges were just the tool to do that  |
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Isn't this your sell-zone? |
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It so funny that /r/bitcoin have no posts at all about the price problems... like being in the other world.
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anybody else buying?
guys?
pls respond.
Are you sure you are right (about your source ) and not again XXX accepting bitcoin? Cause this won't help a dime... |
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down 3.22% in a few hours
wtf who are these sellers and why are they so retarted?
Read shitcoin p&d manipulation tutorial, improve it a bit, multiplay 100x and there you go... |
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Before've heard a lot, and now it seems that there is no news, it has been listed yet?
There is no news because it is not time for pumping but for dumping and spread FUD (like ETF not coming). |
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every transaction paid with Bitcoin will be dumped on the nearest exchange immediately I don't believe that BitPay gets all, or maybe even most, of their dollars from exchanges. They probably have underwriters who want to accumulate bitcoins without going through the exchanges who buy them from BitPay. They've had this kind of arrangement in the past - according to rumours some people became Bitcoin millionaires via this route - but I don't know if they still do it. yeah, i suspect they broker deals off exchange. but it's also hard to say when off-exchange demand is drying up. maybe it is, maybe it isn't. at some point, bitpay may still have to dump on exchanges. bitpay sells on exchanges, always have... They could have some deal with the big buyers and earn some percentage also there, since they become *free*. |
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How a topic about Bitcoin price ended up as a discussion about quantum mechanics?
By the way: can I receive Bitcoin as payment for selling stuff on paypal?
i dont think so. merchants that use "braintree" will be able to accept $ via BTC payments, is my guess baby steps. Lame. Is this defo the case? for now, yes. Early next year they will add it as a wallet, then we might even break $500. You know what they say, buy the rumour, sell the news. |
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Thank you, I'm going to read this every night before I go to bed.  Just don't sell all your coins in your dreams cause you will crash the market. |
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It's so clear you are saying "Fuck you" with this chart.
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Silbert said in december that in 3-6 months (10 months ago) billions are coming in BTC and all his talks with 43 large bank instituions with $X00 billions that wants to move in BTC... I think this says it all. |
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No. We made over 90% of our purchase of all of our BTC holdings before September of last year. We sold a very small amount here and there and repurchased as needed when extra expenses came around but I really don't want to give the amount paid. (we decided to hold extra cash in BTC and use as needed but "extra" cash is hard to come by with Christmas, new car payment, braces etc. . .) But we are well in the black. Bitcoin could never go above $390 for the rest of our lives and I would be so thankful that we decided to invest!!!  The point I was making is that your permabull greed has cost you about 300% since last december: It is not like we don't have a plan to sell, but just not yet. Next year most likely we will heed the advice of some smart people and begin to withdraw systematically.
If you bought in before the bubble, and STILL didn't want to sell at extremely elevated prices, I don't know if I can find a better example of greed in this entire forum. My point being that being perma-anything blinded by greed is a really bad trait and will cost you most, of which you are a perfect example. What if they would sell at $500 in first december crash? Buy back at $900. It's easy to be smart now when resultion is clear. What if we would go to 3k? Saying not selling at $1k was greed for not experienced investor is funny. |
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Copy from my post in the wall observer thread:
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Those who waits for ETF totaly fucked the market, cause anything other is not important. And you know what, ETF is imo not coming for at least a year or even two. Till then we will be just bleeding?
If you asked what would happen if paypal would start integrating bitcoin in the begining of this year everyone would be screeming 5k or 10k, now we can not fuckingly climb back to $500. And manipulators know that and they are here to milk everyone. Just because everyone wants to sell to buy a bit more a little lower of the cheap coins.
We did this ourself. When ETF comes and no result - then what? Smth new will come (regulation or anything) and ETF won't be a wanted story anymore. Damn, just sell to buy a bit lower a bit more.
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