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661  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: At what price do you think Bitcoins will begin to rebound? on: July 05, 2011, 08:01:14 PM
Last barrier was at around 10.25 the last time people panicked. I think that was a month ago.

After that it rebounded pretty fast, then it got stuck at 16-17 for a long time.
662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [0.25 BTC bounty] Radeon 6990 2nd gpu overheat on: July 05, 2011, 07:57:02 PM
the temperature difference is because data moves in a stream in the gpu

input -> GPU 1 -> GPU 2 -> output

GPU 1 will have a continuous stream of work, while gpu 2 will get the work that gpu 1 hasn't done.

thats why gpu1 is running at full capacity while gpu 2 is slower. chances are if you turn up your aggression, it'll increase the temp.

as for your temp, 99*C is a safe temperature for the gpu, so you're fine. try increasing circulation in your case to drop a few deg, but it wont really matter.


if i've answered your q, http://payb.tc/kookiekrak/ =D

That stream of work theory definitely makes sense.

Any idea why it would only happen while mining though? The load is spread pretty much 50/50 in everything else that stresses the GPUs. During mining both cores have same hash rates but only the 2nd core overheats.

Or maybe it's GUIminer/Poclbm?
663  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 6990 Settings Windows - Stable - 432-455 MH/s per GPU on: July 05, 2011, 07:52:30 PM
Thanks for the post!  I can confirm your results.  I've applied what you have posted and am seeing nearly identical results to your setup.  However, my OC switch is NOT in the default position.  I will try this with the OC switch in default in the next few days.

Can you post back with results? I'm thinking AMD powertune is crippling the card if OC switch is not on.

I get pretty much the same results as OP, very noticeable boost from the standard 330-340mhash per core to at least 400-420 (with the exception of the temperature thing)

However, even at same clock rates, OC switch in position 1 "unlocks" the speed. In position 0 (default) the hashing rate just wont go past 370mhash/s or so.
So the switch could be doing some sort of power limiting on some 6990's.
664  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Nice drop in temps ! on: July 05, 2011, 07:48:01 PM
No, but the lower the core temp the better, the GPU will later longer as a result.
my fan is set to auto and is at 46% ...i cannot even hear it ! i'd much rather that
than the cards blazing out at 80% !!!!!!

I don't think you read mastergamer's post.
The voltage regulators are cooled with the air stream the fans take in. The slower you run the fan the hotter they get.

If you are overclocking a card, your VRM is overheating in an exponential scale the more voltage you add.

A graphics card will probably never die in normal use from a toast GPU just as a CPU chip wont.
It might weaken from overclocking due to electromigration but it will never die.

It's the capacitors, VRM, chokes and other components that are the most likely to break.
665  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 1000W PSU on Newegg for $110 today! on: July 05, 2011, 07:09:27 PM
I stand corrected. Price doesn't correlate with quality in PSU's.
There's a lot of expensive no-name crap out there.
666  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Record hashrate for a 5850? (me, showing off) on: July 05, 2011, 04:32:40 PM
hi

i can not reach over 1000 MHz  on Trixx how do you do to have more?

It's GPU specific. Some can be pushed as high as 1075mhz, and others will start freezing even at 910.

If it's a 'sour GPU' so to speak, then it simply can't go past a certain point no matter how much voltage is applied.
Though usually the premium ones are binned for the top of the food chain (best 5870 cores to the 5970, best 6970 cores to the 6990)
667  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Basic mining questions: PCIe x16,x8,x1, extenders, ASIC? on: July 05, 2011, 04:24:17 PM
x1 is fine for mining. PCI-extenders just use a ribbon cable to allow you to raise your card from the board.

Application-specific integrated circuits, or ASICS, would be much more energy efficient for mining. As far as I know no one has done this yet. Field programmable gated arrays, or FPGAs, have been used. These also are highly efficient but can be prohibitively expensive... though cheaper than an ASIC.

Are you sure 1x is OK for mining? No card seems like it'd fit that slot. Do you mean 4x?

The card wont fit into the x1 extender on it's own, the end has to be sawed off.
Some sellers already do it for you before shipping though.
668  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: Protecting Pools from DDoS Attacks on: July 05, 2011, 04:00:36 PM
Slush and Tycho got rid of their DDoS attacks back a month ago with the use of blacklisting/whitelisting IP's based on 'suspicious', 'normal' and 'repeat' traffic,
so that's one "simple" solution you don't need to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for.

For example, slush's pool was initially only allowing people to connect that were actively submitting shares to the pool lately.
Pretty fool-proof if you ask me.
669  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: New AMD APUs... [AMD A8-Series] on: July 05, 2011, 03:51:28 PM
If they make a power-efficient (I'm thinking 45W) APU that can put out 80-120mhash/s with 400-600 Radeon 7xxx series shaders, CPU mining will be worth it.

Granted it's not much in daily BTC, but it will pay to keep the processor mining, unlike now.
670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [0.25 BTC bounty] Radeon 6990 2nd gpu overheat on: July 05, 2011, 03:41:13 PM
Did you try to reduce the memory clock in order to get a lower temperature?

Works fine for me...

Tried to 840mhz ages ago, works great for the other core. Also puts temps in games etc. at about 65c for both cores, both equally loaded to 99-100%.

2nd core still goes up to 99c while mining.
671  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 1000W PSU on Newegg for $110 today! on: July 05, 2011, 03:38:07 PM
And that's why you should spend the extra money on a real PSU instead of skimping out a few bucks & ruining the rest of your PC
672  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [~4000 Gh/s] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too on: July 05, 2011, 05:59:43 AM
Quick question, I know deepbit charges a 3% fee for proportional workers. What about the transaction fees for solved blocks, is that shared or kept by deepbit?

Kept. The 50BTC itself is distributed. Deepbit has the highest fees of any pool in the 'industry'.

I only keep some workers there because it's practically guaranteed income with next to zero variance (avg. -+5% daily) due to it's huge size, making it worth the fees.
673  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: 1000W PSU on Newegg for $110 today! on: July 05, 2011, 05:51:53 AM
Seasonic, Silverstone and Corsair make the best high-end power supplies. Not subjectively speaking; Specifications wise. Everything else is practically junk compared to the top-line 850-1000W+ PSU's of those companies.

Enermax has also top notch guts under the hood, though is a bit less known outside the US.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/
674  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [0.25 BTC bounty] Radeon 6990 2nd gpu overheat on: July 05, 2011, 04:30:59 AM
Ok, good to hear it's normal then. I do run 5 other 6990's since March but none with this big temp fluctuations.

Fans are constantly at 90-100% due to that one core. The 1st gpu temp is just as it should be around 70-75, but the 2nd goes nuts.
And it only happens while mining so it can't be misapplied thermal paste etc. (temps stay within 1-2c of each other in different apps)
675  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [330 GH/s] "Eligius" pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome, no registration on: July 05, 2011, 04:06:18 AM

It seems like Eligius will NOT find a block, unless something gets corrected. I am mining at Slush also, I get the new block notifications there, but no such notifications on Eligius.

How long of a round are you currently going on? I don't have miners at Eligius atm.
676  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bye Bitcoin! on: July 05, 2011, 02:57:51 AM
That's not how a free market works son.

lol
677  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: low hash miners: large or small pool? on: July 05, 2011, 02:38:45 AM
Take in account the current & next difficulties (1.3-1.6m).

They are brutally hard for small pools in terms of variance.
Sure, it evens out in the long term, which is months and years statistically.

It doesn't even out in the short term. A single difficulty can change in 7-10 days.

If your pool does under 50ghash/s, your earnings might drop to literally zero if the pool has bad enough luck (i.e. it might only find a single block during a difficulty level, or none at all)

The larger a pool is, the better it's protected against massive luck swings caused by raising difficulty level & variance.
Pool luck varies about 5-15% at the most on giants like Slush and deepbit.

On pools below 500 ghash, there are daily swings upwards of 20-50% or worse.
678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: what's your stop loss on: July 05, 2011, 02:33:03 AM
Then don't do a wire transfer. Pick one of the many other, cheaper methods. Problem solved.

A lot of countries can't join LR and Dwolla is for USA users only.

What other international options are there if you need the cash in your hands?
679  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shout Out To AnonX For The 37.5 BTC Fo' FREE on: July 05, 2011, 02:19:29 AM
You and your kind, all you care about is money.
This site deserves a better class of criminal. And I'm gonna give it to them.
680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shout Out To AnonX For The 37.5 BTC Fo' FREE on: July 05, 2011, 02:05:01 AM
lol @ all the rabid hyenas begging for stolen coins openly.

Then again, shows what the community really is,
you guys would prostitute your grandma for 3 dollars if you had the opportunity.

You're sick. Carrying such morbid thoughts around. You're probably a serial killer.

Maybe. But I wouldn't prostitute my grandma for 3 dollars like the people begging "Foodstamp".
Or even 30.
Or 300.

Maybe 300.
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