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661  Other / Politics & Society / Re: econ fagz, would estate tax solve income inequality? on: July 17, 2014, 05:54:10 PM
I'm not really a finance guy, but I'd say no, it wouldn't solve our income inequality issue. Wealthy people can often get out of paying a number of different taxes on much of their income that middle and lower class people generally have to (one reason why a national sales tax replacing an income tax is a horrible idea) I guess the theory is that the estate tax will be able to capture those assets that may have previously evaded (legally generally) taxation and thus make them more equal to more middle income families in terms of percentage of assets taxed. Once again, i'm not really a finance/tax guy, but it seems like a fairly easy tax to hide money from, which would defeat the purpose and more so hit the less wealthy people who don't have the same capabilities when it comes to moving their assets around in order to escape it (in part).
662  Other / Politics & Society / econ fagz, would estate tax solve income inequality? on: July 17, 2014, 05:36:45 PM
john oliver brought up income inequality on his show, but i thought it was bizarre that he suggests the way to fix it is to raise estate taxes.

i personally find estate taxes to be morally repugnant, so i think he's a cunt for peddling it, especially since his call to action is to make it more severe.
663  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 17, 2014, 05:24:12 PM
This will be the heck of a mess to sort out!
First of my condolences to the victims and their families.  Sad

For economical and political consequences;
The first issue will be Schipol Airport, it will have a hard time to recover customers to Asia. Most of the passengers will prefer to be re-routed by South, which may cost NL a lot.
The RU-EU relations aren't already that good, if it comes to be shot by Russian SAMs it can be the last drop to put up the Iron Curtain back in place.

Just wonder who was the jackboot that sent that commercial plane down!...
Russia,
I'm going to sit on the fence with this one and wait for an investigation. Incidents like this in a war zone tend to be PR cannon fodder that everyone tries to capitalize on immediately without solid evidence which creates a lot of rumors and bad intel. there are reports that the AFP have seen such missiles in rebels control previously, but is that a rumor spawned by this incident or reliable? Who knows. Certainly not me.
If Ukraine operates these weapons systems as well, could the pro-Russian separatists have stolen one of them and used it?
664  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tea Party explained: a religious movement on: July 17, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
It is now a commonplace for Tea Party candidates to vow they won’t sacrifice an iota of their principles. In this light, shutting down the Government rather than bending on legislation becomes a moral imperative. While critics may decry such a tactic as “rule or ruin,” Tea Party brethren celebrate it, rather, as the act of a defiant Samson pulling down the pillars of the temple. For them, this is not demolition but reclamation, cleansing the sanctuary that has been profaned by liberals.
665  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Malaysia Airlines MH17 Crash: Boeing 777 Crashed in Ukraine Near Russian Border on: July 17, 2014, 04:55:41 PM
It will be interesting to see from which side the missile came from. This is just my opinion. Only my opinion. I think pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine did it. But where would they get Buk surface-to-air missile systems?
666  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Tea Party explained: a religious movement on: July 17, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
Governor tells Iowans to ‘repent’ in official proclamation for Christian revival at Capitol

An official proclamation signed by Gov. Terry Branstad (R-IA) has called on Iowans to pray and repent on a daily basis.

In a public ceremony earlier this year, Branstad signed the proclamation ahead of a July 14 revival at the Iowa Capitol:

    NOW, THEREFORE, I, Terry E Branstad, as Governor of the State of Iowa, do hereby invite all Iowans who choose to join in the thoughtful prayer and humble repentance according to II Chronicles 7:14 in favor of our state and nation to come together on July 14, 2014.On Tuesday, Branstad was also one of the speakers at the 11-hour Christian event.

The governor explained that his proclamation “was very much in line with the great tradition” that started with President George Washington.

Branstad thanked the attendees for encouraging those who served in public office to “follow God’s will.”

Iowa Lt. Gov. Kim Reynold (R) also spoke, praising the crowd for “standing up for our rights, and for individual liberties.”

The “If 7:14″ campaign sponsored by Iowa’s Family Leader asks everyone to set their cell phones to remind them to pray and repent each day at 7:14 a.m.

Video below from The Family Leader, broadcast July 15, 2014:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/15/governor-tells-iowans-to-repent-in-official-proclamation-for-christian-revival-at-capitol/
667  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel: Operation Protective Edge on: July 17, 2014, 03:51:33 PM
I would suggest most people in first world countries have a problem with the concept of collective punishment. I certainly do. Israel has no blame here. They have a right to exist, and be where they are at. The Palestinians choose war over peace.
What I mean is, the concept of collective punishment is too ill-defined to really have a black and white opinion about it. I'm not sure how the geneva conventions defines it. E.g. does collateral damage count as collective punishment?
No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.
Pillage is prohibited.
Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited.


Seems relatively straight forward, and I don't see how collateral damage would apply normally. If the intent was to destroy property in the vicinity as punishment for something the people didn't actually do, then yes.
Where does intent come in from what you posted above? collateral damage (e.g. a civilian getting killed when you were targeting a terrorist) is a pretty big punishment for something they didnt do, even if it was unintentional.
The accusations of collective punishment have nothing to do with the scenario that you are talking about. (Though Israel is also legally required to minimize collateral damage when they can and they don't always meet those standards).

Collective punishment would be what I mentioned: demolishing the houses of family members accused of crimes. The family didn't do anything, the criminal did. Flying sonic booms over Gaza in order to instill terror into the general population is collective punishment as well, as is the deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure such as water systems. When the kids went missing one of the first things that Israel did was cut the fishing rights of Palestinians in Gaza and cut off medical and electricity resupply to the strip which has precipitated shortages of medicine more severe than any that have been seen since 2007. That is collective punishment as well and illegal.
668  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Mysterious Siberian Crater Found on: July 17, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
"ten thousand years ago this area was a sea"-----------------------   hmmmmm,   global cooling?.........or Godzilla?
669  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Microsoft tells users to stop using strong passwords everywhere on: July 17, 2014, 03:23:38 PM
I've been writing all my passwords down in a little book for the past 13 years. Amazingly, it's never been hacked into. Seriously, it's the best solution. If i lost the book, which doesn't seem likely, I guess I'd just reset the passwords.
670  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pope Francis: 'About 2%' of Catholic clergy paedophiles on: July 17, 2014, 03:14:48 PM
That two per cent sounds like a very conservative estimate. the big question that bothers me is why Frankie hasn't done what he should have done ages ago: pick up the phone and call the police with all the evidence and suspicions he has and let them sort out the kiddy fiddler cardinals, bishops and lesser clergy.
671  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Don't Mess with Messiahs on: July 17, 2014, 02:43:47 PM
It seems to me, however, that there a whole lot of people who want these children deported. Not just in the south either. However, when it is mostly the south that is being invaded by them, it would stand to reason that many southerners want them deported. People don't always care one way or another until it affect them, do they? Seems to me those folks in California want them gone too.

Why is it that some people just cannot understand that it is ILLEGAL to come into this country if you do not do it the correct and lawful way? Yet some people keep saying, "well, they are here, so let's take care of them".  It is exactly that attitude that makes them keep coming here.
It would be wrong beyond belief to make these kids scapegoats for their country's own problems, or the hateful racist pieces of shit that inhabit the GOP, especially down in the south. I'm sure anjy is correct that the right would be ALL for sending these kids back--but only because child labor laws prevent their corporate masters from putting them to work immediately in the fields. Sure, the GOP wants these kids to go back--there's no profit in them.

These kids are here. They should stay here. If they're kids they can be molded and made into productive citizens. Personally, I have no problem accepting any kids into this country--they don't even have be white Europeans as some in the south believe are the only human beings fit for immigration. Black, brown, red, yellow, I'm fine with ALL kids. And I am happy to see my taxes go up a tad to support them. Parents can buy their daughters a few less Barbie dolls--the prospect of what these kids face if returned being in my mind a bit less pressing than buying little missy a new Barbie. I realize that some parents think that without that Barbie, little missy will turn into a psycho, but if they're concerned about that, taking a look at their own parenting practices would probably do more than shelling out bucks for one more consumer product.

Wanna close the border? Fine. I have no problem with that. Obviously we've got a nightmare with immigration, which will be settled when the rightwingers stop running their mouths, and start holding corporations responsible for breaking the law. We're ALL in favor of getting the matter settle
672  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 01:33:25 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. Or when they attacked Bristol and trig while claiming the obama girls were off limits. And of course the house ni**er name used to describe so many black republicans male and female because the dem party knows that all blacks belong in the dem party. No nuance there.
WHO defended him because it was funny? I sure didn't.  First of all, Mahar wasn't trying to be funny when he said that, it was one of his more serious moments - he has them. And I didn't defend the use of the word because I think the word is vile and has no place in discourse between reasonable people.
673  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 12:19:12 PM
I draw a firm line in the sand with regard to the families of those figures, most particularly the  minor children and spouses that are not directly involved in political policy.
Since both Michelle Obama and Nancy Pelosi are very political, I guess you have no objection to poking a little fun at them. As far as racial undertones are concerned, liberals are the ones constantly reminding us that the Obamas are black and therefore beyond criticism.
674  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No president escapes the American sense of humor on: July 17, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
So we can't tell the same political joke that has been told many times with other men/women/party substitutions, but straight up calling a conservative woman a pig is fine.
I saw that coming when the lefties defended maher for calling palin a cu*t because it was funny. Or when they attacked Bristol and trig while claiming the obama girls were off limits. And of course the house ni**er name used to describe so many black republicans male and female because the dem party knows that all blacks belong in the dem party. No nuance there.

I always thought there were hints of envy on the palin issue.

Because she certainly is no pig.

And the Democrats sure have a lot of women who are hogs.
+1
675  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel: Operation Protective Edge on: July 17, 2014, 11:48:18 AM
The older I get, the more cynical I get. I'm at the point where I think it's best if things escalate totally out of control, and the resulting deaths and destruction on both sides are so horrid they agree to stop. I don't know if that would work out, but I truly doubt there is any other solution to this shit.

Both sides share a lot of blame, and I can't say I have much sympathy for any of the combatants. Blaming Israel alone is naïve, especially when you consider that every school anywhere in the middle east has maps that show that Israel doesn't exist, and they are constantly taught that Israel took their land and are evil. That is undeniable, and it forces a continuation of generational blood feuds. It's never ending hate propaganda.

Defending Israel is equally ludicrous. When you get right down to it, Israel is a theocracy...or the next best thing to that...trying to say it's a liberal democracy. It cannot ever be a liberal democracy, because the Palestinians would take control of the country in very few years.
When it comes to your first paragraph, I support a two state solution. You said the older you get. Well, the older I get, about a month away from my 30th birthday, the more I see that compromise is necessary to get the violence to stop. And I have experience because I have been to Israel twice, I have a Bachelor's in Political Science, and I have served in Kuwait in the U.S. Army. So I have been to and studied the Middle East quite a lot. And once again, I say a two state solution is the best solution.

I do agree that both sides are mutually guilty of causing escalation of violence. That is why they should do more talking and less fighting. And then back up their negotiating words with actions. I personally think Prime Minister Netanyahu should pull settlers out of the West Bank and Mahmoud Abbas should cut ties with Hamas completely.

I do not see Israel as a theocracy. While they do observe the Sabbath, they still are fairly secular. I saw people with tattoos in Israel almost everywhere I went, except in the ultra-orthodox areas, and tattoos are against Jewish law. So I think Israel is more secular than religious.
When I was your age, I also thought wonderful thoughts about world peace and shit.Now i see this things with different eyes.
I support a two-state solution because I believe it would be naive to take one side or another as being right in this conflict. I think both sides have their share of blame.
676  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel: Operation Protective Edge on: July 17, 2014, 11:37:24 AM
The older I get, the more cynical I get. I'm at the point where I think it's best if things escalate totally out of control, and the resulting deaths and destruction on both sides are so horrid they agree to stop. I don't know if that would work out, but I truly doubt there is any other solution to this shit.

Both sides share a lot of blame, and I can't say I have much sympathy for any of the combatants. Blaming Israel alone is naïve, especially when you consider that every school anywhere in the middle east has maps that show that Israel doesn't exist, and they are constantly taught that Israel took their land and are evil. That is undeniable, and it forces a continuation of generational blood feuds. It's never ending hate propaganda.

Defending Israel is equally ludicrous. When you get right down to it, Israel is a theocracy...or the next best thing to that...trying to say it's a liberal democracy. It cannot ever be a liberal democracy, because the Palestinians would take control of the country in very few years.
When it comes to your first paragraph, I support a two state solution. You said the older you get. Well, the older I get, about a month away from my 30th birthday, the more I see that compromise is necessary to get the violence to stop. And I have experience because I have been to Israel twice, I have a Bachelor's in Political Science, and I have served in Kuwait in the U.S. Army. So I have been to and studied the Middle East quite a lot. And once again, I say a two state solution is the best solution.

I do agree that both sides are mutually guilty of causing escalation of violence. That is why they should do more talking and less fighting. And then back up their negotiating words with actions. I personally think Prime Minister Netanyahu should pull settlers out of the West Bank and Mahmoud Abbas should cut ties with Hamas completely.

I do not see Israel as a theocracy. While they do observe the Sabbath, they still are fairly secular. I saw people with tattoos in Israel almost everywhere I went, except in the ultra-orthodox areas, and tattoos are against Jewish law. So I think Israel is more secular than religious.
677  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 17, 2014, 06:00:33 AM
regardless of rules whoever advertised for him deserves there payment, and I was promised payment but still I got nothing today as promised, he told me 8 to 10 hours, and is past that already.

i think just give him some time bro i got my payment right after i post my btc addy which is just because he is online and post all the necessasary things to validate my querries and he act fast i think you should talk to him when he is online

Look umair I do think you deserve payment, and he said he's pay you apparently and never did so this is starting to look bad again. Don't say "regardless of rules" though because I do think if you weren't confirmed he doesn't owe you. That's like I say ok umair I'll pay you to post xyz signature for me, then someone else adds xyz signature and demands I pay them. The law does not put a duty on me to tell that other person to take off xyz signature otherwise I have to pay them. That would be ludicrous. Plus updown even said you needed to be confirmed. Same with people who took off sig after less than 30 days...you did not fulfill contract terms. I hate that I'm siding with updown because he's been shady about a lot but this is the state of the law in all jurisdictions I'm aware of.

I left the sig campaign last week so what are you talking about I left early?   you can see I joined a new campaign last week.  I was here from around the 9ths, stood here extra days,  Plus yes I am confirmed, I have link to that page as well.
678  Economy / Services / Re: WE PAY FOR SIGNATURE EVEN MORE. UP TO 0.0016 BTCs PER POST. W on: July 16, 2014, 11:48:44 PM
 I was promised payment but still I got nothing today as promised, he told me 8 to 10 hours, and is past that already.
679  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Supervolcano in Yellowstone is going to Explode? on: July 16, 2014, 06:23:31 PM
Gee watch the movie Super Volcano from the Discovery net work, we are at 640,000 years now. From the last major eruption. Guess that make us 40,000 years over due for a major eruption.
To see how bad things will get watch the movie it is as close to what will happen as you are going to get. If you live with in 300 miles of Yellow stone when it goes say good bye.
USGS is painting a nice picture in hope it does not happen, but it will it is just a matter of when.
680  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Church of England to allow female bishops on: July 16, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
It is not surprising that churches will open their doors and change policy to keep the fantasy alive. Like any business that depends more on cash flow than anything else, you need to get the marketing straight and this move is obviously aimed and broadening (no pun intended) the demographic, in order to get more "bodies in the shop." Time is going by and more people are coming to realize that the real world is a better place to be.
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